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New iBook..just released.
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$999 iBook makes the $1599 12" Powerbook look stupid now...
the extra $600 for a 12" PB gets you 133Mhz more processor, a 32mb better graphics card, 30 more gig of hard drive ($75 upgrade for the PB's 60 gig in an iBook), bluetooth ($50 in an iBook) and a metal casing...
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The AirPort reception in the iBooks is incredibly much better than in the PBs. That is a major plus.
They're using an ATi Radeon 9200 mobility. Isn't that a rebranded 8500?
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Originally posted by ajprice:
$999 iBook makes the $1599 12" Powerbook look stupid now...
the extra $600 for a 12" PB gets you 133Mhz more processor, a 32mb better graphics card, 30 more gig of hard drive ($75 upgrade for the PB's 60 gig in an iBook), bluetooth ($50 in an iBook) and a metal casing...
Agreed...
The 12" iBook with edu starts at $949, which is very affordable.
Moreover, $1349 with edu discount is making the NEW entry level single processor G5 look very tempting...
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there is even a superdrive on one of the 14" models.
i want a 15" widescreen ibook. yes, i know it is not going to happen.
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Originally posted by shabbasuraj:
Moreover, $1349 with edu discount is making the entry level single processor G5 look very tempting...
The SP 1.8 GHz G5 has a 600 MHz bus.
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I wonder how much that wil affect overall system performance.
Benchmark predictions?
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I bought an iBook G4 last October as soon as they came out. For $150 less than I paid last year, I can get a faster processor, more ram, and a bigger hard drive now.
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iBook G4: 800mhz, 640mb, 40gb ("Astrid")
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Originally posted by ajprice:
$999 iBook makes the $1599 12" Powerbook look stupid now...
the extra $600 for a 12" PB gets you 133Mhz more processor, a 32mb better graphics card, 30 more gig of hard drive ($75 upgrade for the PB's 60 gig in an iBook), bluetooth ($50 in an iBook) and a metal casing...
Let the whining begin.
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Whining is what Apple updates are for! I haven't got an iBook, I've never had a laptop and I don't plan to get one in the near future, so this really doesn't affect me at all. But looking at the specs of this new one, the first thing I thought was "Well what's the point of a 12" Powerbook then?" I haven't really moaned on forums about anything before like this, but the 12" Powerbook really does look silly now.
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Originally posted by chris v:
Let the whining begin.
What, no G5 processor?
Good lord Apple...
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my friend, a teacher, can get the low end model for $899 at educational price.
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Even better is the entry level with combo drive and edu pricing. $1233 is not too bad.
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Originally posted by webcookie:
I bought an iBook G4 last October as soon as they came out. For $150 less than I paid last year, I can get a faster processor, more ram, and a bigger hard drive now.
isn't it ironic? don't ya think?
it's gonna happen every year dude. get used to it.
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they should make a stand that makes it look like a imac
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Originally posted by webcookie:
I bought an iBook G4 last October as soon as they came out. For $150 less than I paid last year, I can get a faster processor, more ram, and a bigger hard drive now.
isn't this exactly what people have wanted from apple updates since SJ came back?
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Originally posted by webcookie:
I bought an iBook G4 last October as soon as they came out. For $150 less than I paid last year, I can get a faster processor, more ram, and a bigger hard drive now.
Are you serious ?
This is the FIRST TIME EVAARRR that something like this happened
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My little 600Mhz iBook G3 is crying now.
However, it still does everything I want from a computer I can throw in my backpack and not really worry about!
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Originally posted by ajprice:
$999 iBook makes the $1599 12" Powerbook look stupid now...
the extra $600 for a 12" PB gets you 133Mhz more processor, a 32mb better graphics card, 30 more gig of hard drive ($75 upgrade for the PB's 60 gig in an iBook), bluetooth ($50 in an iBook) and a metal casing...
I think it's reasonable to expect a PB speed boost soon ... though not to G5 until early next year.
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Why is everyone whining? I don't even have an iBook in the first place!
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Originally posted by ajprice:
$999 iBook makes the $1599 12" Powerbook look stupid now...
the extra $600 for a 12" PB gets you 133Mhz more processor, a 32mb better graphics card, 30 more gig of hard drive ($75 upgrade for the PB's 60 gig in an iBook), bluetooth ($50 in an iBook) and a metal casing...
Don't forget that the Powerbook can use monitor spanning, which is not possible on the iBook without an unsupported hack. It's important to some people, anyway.
But yes, I expect the Powerbook to come down in price.
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iBook now comes with Airport! Sweeeet. That low-end model is looking mighty nice.
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Originally posted by webcookie:
I bought an iBook G4 last October as soon as they came out. For $150 less than I paid last year, I can get a faster processor, more ram, and a bigger hard drive now.
Did you really have no use for it whatsoever during the last year?
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The majority of people who buy PowerBooks by a certain date are students so that major buying season is over. The PBs didn't get updated so we're looking at MacWorld SF. That said, with no upgrade to the PBs I have to wonder if we're going to see a major update.
That said, I think with that new low end option I might some day get a PowerMac. I looked a while ago and it was just way to rich. That said the new one yah it's not DP but whatever, I seriously might get one not this summer but maybe next once my 1Ghz PB starts getting long in the tooth. hehe, I just gota make sure I get a G5 before the aluminum casings won't match
Dang I'm such an astetics whore. I'd probably run it with a crappy CRT for a while too which would be really ironic.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
iBook now comes with Airport! Sweeeet. That low-end model is looking mighty nice.
Hey! Aren't you supposed to whine about teh video card??
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I'm still loving my 15inch PowerBook. These iBooks are indeed nice though.
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Originally posted by chris v:
Hey! Aren't you supposed to whine about teh video card??
Meh, I can live with a 9200 mobile, even if it does have 32MB. I wouldn't want to game on an iBook much anyway. Hey, at least it has Quartz Extreme.
iMac still has a horrible integrated graphics card for a new machine today.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
iMac still has a horrible integrated graphics card for a new machine today.
THAT'S the spirit!
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Originally posted by MindFad:
iMac still has a horrible integrated graphics card for a new machine today.
Really ?
It's the same as in the low- and mid-level PowerMacs, right ?
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That is not a good thing.
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Originally posted by mdc:
there is even a superdrive on one of the 14" models.
i want a 15" widescreen ibook. yes, i know it is not going to happen.
me too
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Originally posted by turtle777:
Really ?
It's the same as in the low- and mid-level PowerMacs, right ?
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Except you can't swap it out for a better card for $50.00
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
Except you can't swap it out for a better card for $50.00
yep
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Originally posted by turtle777:
Really ?
It's the same as in the low- and mid-level PowerMacs, right ?
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It is. It reflects poorly on both, but more on the PowerMacs. If you're spending $1500-$2500 on a computer, more than $50 of that should be spent on the video card. You could also say that more than $50 should go towards RAM, or that more than $60 should be spent on the hard drive.
Funny... in the $2000 PowerMac, only about $200 is spent on the optical drive, hard drive, RAM, and video card combined. At least, you could buy all those components for that much money. Apple probably gets them for a lot less than what you'd pay for them, even going to a big-time retailer like NewEgg.
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LOL
Rev.b G5's come out 2 months after I buy my Rev-A. Gen-4 iPods out 1 month after I buy a gen-3. New iBooks out 2 months after I buy my 12" 1ghz iBook.
Two words: OH WELL
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Originally posted by greenamp:
Rev.b G5's come out 2 months after I buy my Rev-A. Gen-4 iPods out 1 month after I buy a gen-3. New iBooks out 2 months after I buy my 12" 1ghz iBook.
Please keep us posted about future investments.
It'll make it easier for us
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Don't worry about it.
iMac Rev D bought one month before the Slot Loaders, iBook bought two months before new Rev, PowerBook which replaced the iBook bought something like a month before the update.
Buying Macs just isn't fair. I'm looking forward to hearing about the new 8gig iPod minis, It's been about a month so I'm thinking we'll hear pretty soon.
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Originally posted by greenamp:
LOL
Rev.b G5's come out 2 months after I buy my Rev-A. Gen-4 iPods out 1 month after I buy a gen-3. New iBooks out 2 months after I buy my 12" 1ghz iBook.
Two words: OH WELL
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
Honestly, the people complaining about having just bought iBooks - iBook updates have happened every 6 months pretty much regular as clockwork at least since the iBook 500 came out (ie about 3.5 years ago). Do a tiny bit of research before investing $1000 or so why don't you?
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Originally posted by Sealobo:
my friend, a teacher, can get the low end model for $899 at educational price.
Teachers can't get that price, educational institutions can. There is a difference.
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Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Teachers can't get that price, educational institutions can. There is a difference.
Wrong. Teachers (and students) can get that price.
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I'd be happy if my 12in 1.33 Powerbook wasn't feeling down and out.
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Originally posted by Amorya:
Wrong. Teachers (and students) can get that price.
Yes, but the $899 one has no AE card. With AE installed, it's $949.
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Originally posted by MilkmanDan:
I'd be happy if my 12in 1.33 Powerbook wasn't feeling down and out.
mine is still feeling perky and fresh. it rules the roost here at home. it gets more lovin than the pc with the 19inch crt. in fact ... that monitor has been hooked up to the mac more than the pc lately =P ...
sure i'd love a dual core, sure i'd love a g5 ... pff ... oh well .. besides, either technologies, i want a rev b or c .. so what the fleck ....
now i'm pretty sure it's a macworld update .... let the spec. speculations begin! ... lol
i dont care about the specs as much as the appearance... think they will use a new case?
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