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RevEvs
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Apr 17, 2004, 06:59 AM
 
Ok this was just pointed out to me, and i didn't know about it, and i spend way too much time reading forums, so im hoping ive just not missed it before.

Everyone's always wanting a shelf in the finder, well we have one, in the dock.

Dont know if its common knowledge, and that ive been under a rock a while, but you can command drag stuff out of the dock, and it will actually move the file, not remove it from the dock.

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Apr 17, 2004, 07:07 AM
 
wow, I've been using OS X since the public beta, and that is new to me. Cheers.
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Apr 17, 2004, 08:04 AM
 
Indeed.

Thanks for the hint.
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Apr 17, 2004, 08:17 AM
 
I find this particularly useful when I want to open a running app's AppleScript Dictionary - just command-drag the app's dock icon over to Script Editor's Icon.

Hmm - Text dragged from text edit doesn't seem to want to be dragged into the dock.
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 09:51 AM
 
I didn't know this. However, it doesn't move the file, but makes a copy and the dock then points to that copy.
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 10:07 AM
 
Originally posted by SMacTech:
I didn't know this. However, it doesn't move the file, but makes a copy and the dock then points to that copy.
It moves the file on my computer. Just tested it now

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Apr 17, 2004, 10:29 AM
 
Originally posted by SMacTech:
I didn't know this. However, it doesn't move the file, but makes a copy and the dock then points to that copy.

Were you dragging between volumes (the icon in the Dock is on one volume, the destination to which you command-dragged its icon is on another volume)? That would, by default, make a copy. Otherwise it should move the file.
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Apr 17, 2004, 12:07 PM
 
New to me, you can do some pretty cool stuff with the command and option keys, for example when you option-click a folder it closes the current window...
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 01:00 PM
 
Originally posted by RevEvs:
Ok this was just pointed out to me, and i didn't know about it, and i spend way too much time reading forums, so im hoping ive just not missed it before.

Everyone's always wanting a shelf in the finder, well we have one, in the dock.

Dont know if its common knowledge, and that ive been under a rock a while, but you can command drag stuff out of the dock, and it will actually move the file, not remove it from the dock.

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Wow. How long has it been now, nearly three years on OS X, and I learn a new thing every other day.

I also use Quicksilver's shelf funtionality, which truly rocks (as well as other QS features).
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 01:22 PM
 
Wow, count me in the "Learned somethin' new today" crowd, despite having plenty of experience with OS X and visiting MacOSXHints religiously for the past year or so.

Many thanks for that!
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 01:33 PM
 
Originally posted by kovacs:
New to me, you can do some pretty cool stuff with the command and option keys, for example when you option-click a folder it closes the current window...
When you option-click anything outside of a program it'll hide that program. What do you mean by closing the current window?
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 01:51 PM
 
That has got to be one of the coolest OS X tricks I've learned about in some time. Thanks!

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Apr 17, 2004, 01:51 PM
 
Just trrashed my mail, any idea how to get it back
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 01:52 PM
 
Originally posted by Photo678:
Just trrashed my mail, any idea how to get it back
Do you mean the Mail application? If so, funny you should ask that right as I come here - check out Pacifist (link in my sig). You can use it to extract Mail from the OS X install CD's.

If you're referring to your mailboxes with your archived messages in them, though, I'm not sure there's much you can do except restore from backup if you have one...

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Apr 17, 2004, 01:58 PM
 
Thanks for that

Just a heads up to people thought, if you command drag something from the dock it must moves the program to the desktop or whereever. do not delete it as it is the actual program.

I command dragged my mail from the dock to the desktop, then deleted it as i thought it was just a copy, and now, no mail


So just a heads up
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 02:02 PM
 
What happened to the "piles" thing that was popularized on these forums?
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 02:06 PM
 
Originally posted by saranwarp:
When you option-click anything outside of a program it'll hide that program. What do you mean by closing the current window?
When you open a folder in the finder in non-brushed mode ( OS 9 mode, use the little widget on the right ) you can option-click it's contents ( folders and files ), this will close the original folder and open the new one in a new window...
     
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Apr 17, 2004, 02:08 PM
 
There's also xshelf which is pretty cool.
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Apr 17, 2004, 07:49 PM
 
Originally posted by Photo678:
Thanks for that

Just a heads up to people thought, if you command drag something from the dock it must moves the program to the desktop or whereever. do not delete it as it is the actual program.

I command dragged my mail from the dock to the desktop, then deleted it as i thought it was just a copy, and now, no mail


So just a heads up
Ah, okay. My program will definitely be able to help you with that.

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Apr 17, 2004, 09:46 PM
 
Very, very cool. And, FYI, you can Command-Option-Drag to create an alias.
     
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Apr 18, 2004, 08:42 PM
 
As cool as this is, I still prefer Pathfinder's shelf... I've gotten into the habit of switching to pathfinder any time I have to do intensive file organization...Once you get hooked you won't want to go back.
     
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Apr 19, 2004, 07:16 AM
 
Originally posted by Dex13:
What happened to the "piles" thing that was popularized on these forums?
Well, thanks to the cream and the special cussion, they've pretty much cleared up and are much better now. Thanks for asking.
     
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Apr 19, 2004, 07:36 AM
 
Cool.

I'd still like to have back the spatial OS 9 Finder. Can I option click me somehow to it?
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Apr 19, 2004, 08:20 AM
 
Originally posted by kovacs:
When you open a folder in the finder in non-brushed mode ( OS 9 mode, use the little widget on the right ) you can option-click it's contents ( folders and files ), this will close the original folder and open the new one in a new window...
And Cmd-clicking on a folder in brushed mode will do the same.
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Apr 19, 2004, 08:31 AM
 
Originally posted by voodoo:
I'd still like to have back the spatial OS 9 Finder. Can I option click me somehow to it?
In the Finder Preferences enable all volumes on the desktop and the option to open folders in new windows.
Open the first volume and set the window to Mac OS 9 mode - hide the toolbar. Close the window.
Now do the same with all other volumes and all folders in the Dock or on the Desktop.

Now opening a folder will create a new window. The new window will have the same "Mac OS 9 style" like the parent window (that's why all directly opened windows have to be configured individually). You will get the same windows clutter like in Mac OS 9 unless you hold the option key while double clicking the folder.

PS: holding the command key while double clicking a folder will open the folder in a new window (in brushed metal mode or if "open folder in same window" is activated).
     
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Apr 19, 2004, 10:06 AM
 
Originally posted by Zadian:
You will get the same windows clutter like in Mac OS 9 unless you hold the option key while double clicking the folder.
You get the same clutter as in OS 9, but it's not a spatial Finder. It's a spatial Finder look-alike.

See this thread for discussion.
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Apr 19, 2004, 03:00 PM
 
>I'd still like to have back the spatial OS 9 Finder. Can I option click me somehow to it?

While in folder view, just click on the horizontal "pill" button on the right top edge of every finder window... and presto... the spatial finder is back.
     
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Apr 19, 2004, 04:36 PM
 
Originally posted by Developer:
You get the same clutter as in OS 9, but it's not a spatial Finder. It's a spatial Finder look-alike.
Hm, I had the impression that it's just like Mac OS 9 - unless you use the column view.
Oh, and since you could open two windows with the same folder, that would be a non spatial behavior - but then, why should somebody do that if he wants to use a spatial finder?

I will read the thread - never really tried it for very long, as i don't care about a spatial finder. (I don't want to start a flame war about that).
     
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Apr 19, 2004, 05:55 PM
 
Originally posted by Gee4orce:
Well, thanks to the cream and the special cussion, they've pretty much cleared up and are much better now. Thanks for asking.

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