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bOOzo · Nov 28, 2003, 01:16 PM

A lot of work went into this update.
Here are the changes:

Panther compatibility:
� ALL elements remade and overlooked! Buttons have a slightly more defined border which also uses transparency so that it adapts to darker backgrounds, which is great for webpages.
� The theme is now separated into three different theme variations: "Milk" which only uses white elements, "Chrome Milk" which makes certain elements chrome (more than it used to) and "Black Milk" which adds a black Apple menu icon and black menus (original mod by Giano).
� New cool async progress icon which looks like dripping milk.
� New Apple menu icon based on the Panther chrome apple.
� Added Menu Extras in Milk style.
� Added a right bevel to menus.
� All text is now slightly less black to give a better Milk-feel.
� Updated Safari skin, now included with the theme.
� Included two more desktop pictures: "HiTechMilk" by Jacques R. Blier and "Padded Desktops" by Marcel B.

You can get the theme from my homepage (click signature).

Hope you like it and feel free to post comments or bugs.

mrfrost · Nov 28, 2003, 01:21 PM

Thank you Max!

rhythmicmoose · 01:35 PM

Lookin' sharp! Thanks!

The chrome look is killer!

Stuphalina · Nov 28, 2003, 01:31 PM

THANK YOU! looks amazing!

cloudaj · Nov 28, 2003, 02:09 PM

Having a problem with the highlighting in menus with black milk, im getting my regular aqua highlight instead of the greyish color i should be getting. works fine under the 2 other milk variations.

1c3 · Nov 28, 2003, 02:20 PM

Great!!

I will download it right away!!

Thanks!

TheIceMan · Nov 28, 2003, 02:32 PM

Looks great Max!

mac15 · Nov 28, 2003, 02:48 PM

wow, I'm such a fan of chrome. I think its damn awesome. Max your to awesome your themes are insanely cool. The new dripping milk is too damn cool. My brother was gob smacked with how cool it looked

joltguy · Nov 28, 2003, 03:56 PM

This has always been my absolute favourite theme... thanks Max!

sushiism · Nov 28, 2003, 04:25 PM

can we see the dripping milk thing here? im away from my mac for thr weekend

1c3 · Nov 28, 2003, 04:45 PM

FREAKIN' AWSOME DUDE!!

I love it!!

The dripping milk, and the whole thing. Except for one itsy bitsy thing. When I installed the safari skin the tabs has a dotteline on it. That is kinda ugly I think. Is it supposed to be there?

cloudaj · Nov 28, 2003, 05:05 PM

turn of preforated tabs in safaricon, its in the third tab from the left i believe.

1c3 · Nov 28, 2003, 05:15 PM

Aha

Okay thanks

bOOzo · Nov 28, 2003, 05:16 PM

You're all welcome!

I'm glad you enjoy the theme!

Originally posted by sushiism:
can we see the dripping milk thing here? im away from my mac for thr weekend

I made a gif out of it:

It's actually the only thing that is really new about the theme and I spent some time surfin looking at videos and such of drops in slowmotion. This drop is a little simplified but I'm really happy with it.

One thing I noticed with the Async in general under Panther.. You know that apple added a Large Async right? well, it turns out that that one is used in Cocoa apps (not all, but mail for example) and that it's actually shrunk back to 16x16 pixels... so I resized my small async arrow using "Nearest neighbor" and then pasted it into the Large async arrow too, and that looks just like every other async animation now. Unless they are actually using the Large Async arrow in full size somewhere (32x32 pixels) I don't understand why they even added it..

Having a problem with the highlighting in menus with black milk, im getting my regular aqua highlight instead of the greyish color i should be getting. works fine under the 2 other milk variations.

I can't reproduce this, is it when you have the theme applied or when previewing it? You are using 10.3 right?

cloudaj · Nov 28, 2003, 05:52 PM

i applied it, and im under 10.3.1. i posted a snapshot on your boards. And I rebooted as well, so its not an issue related to that.

rhythmicmoose · Nov 28, 2003, 06:12 PM

Also, the new right bevel in the menus doesn't look like it's been applied to the top and bottom of menus. The far upper-right and lower-right corners are still flat.

Chrome apple looks like it could be smoothed out a bit, too, but that's just me.

Awesome work. New favorite theme.

bOOzo · Nov 28, 2003, 06:33 PM

The right bevel can't be applied to the top or bottom. I think it's better than nothing though.

cloudaj - that is very odd

Try reapplying the theme or something, maybe Smeger could be of better help here. It seems that theme have been mixed with your previous theme or something.

cSurfr · Nov 28, 2003, 06:34 PM

When I apply the Chrome Milk, I get the the regular milk widgets, not the new ones. Any ideas ?

cs

Stuphalina · Nov 28, 2003, 06:34 PM

OK, I applied it, and I have to say that I am againg in love with this theme all over again and most definitely happy about the THREE variations.

Alas, I have one comment to make.
I may be alone with this one, but I prefered the previous white apple in the menu. I still like the new one, but I find it too much. It's hard to explain. Other than that, it is the theme that I am buying Shapeshifter for!
Nice work and keep it up!

rhythmicmoose · Nov 28, 2003, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
The right bevel can't be applied to the top or bottom. I think it's better than nothing though.

I guess I'll live

. Chalk up another Aqua shortcoming due to Apple's lazy interface design crew.

Thanks for the reply.

cloudaj · Nov 28, 2003, 06:42 PM

well apples interface design team doesnt even want you theming in the first place so...

bastion · Nov 28, 2003, 07:43 PM

Blart, now I have to enable sigs

Cheers!

phillryu · Nov 28, 2003, 07:44 PM

This is AMAZING! Thank you thank you thank you!

Giano · Nov 28, 2003, 08:44 PM

"Black Milk" which adds a black Apple menu icon and black menus (original mod by Giano).

I deeply move to tears Max...thanx

For the great theme, and for the reference to my name...

sushiism · Nov 28, 2003, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by bOOzo:

I made a gif out of it:

cheers very cute

solidfox · Nov 28, 2003, 09:51 PM

Mmm...great theme, white is beutiful.

Won't do without a Black Chrome though, specially since you can't edit guikits...
I want it...

(can't stand heavy menus)

dole · Nov 28, 2003, 10:03 PM

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not. When I right click on my hard drive or iPod, some of the bevel or whatever it is on the right side of the contextual menu is missing.

Menu Image

wreks · Nov 28, 2003, 11:14 PM

shapeshifter only?

Lefo · Nov 28, 2003, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by wreks:
shapeshifter only?

Yeah, sucks, doesn't it?

Lefo

NetworkShadow · 12:39 AM

Originally posted by wreks:
shapeshifter only?

Times change.

Hay cool Max. I'm not the biggest Milk fan, but I've gotten a lot of use out of it in the past.

JellyBeen · Nov 29, 2003, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
A lot of work went into this update.
Here are the changes:

Panther compatibility:
� ALL elements remade and overlooked! Buttons have a slightly more defined border which also uses transparency so that it adapts to darker backgrounds, which is great for webpages.
� The theme is now separated into three different theme variations: "Milk" which only uses white elements, "Chrome Milk" which makes certain elements chrome (more than it used to) and "Black Milk" which adds a black Apple menu icon and black menus (original mod by Giano).
� New cool async progress icon which looks like dripping milk.
� New Apple menu icon based on the Panther chrome apple.
� Added Menu Extras in Milk style.
� Added a right bevel to menus.
� All text is now slightly less black to give a better Milk-feel.
� Updated Safari skin, now included with the theme.
� Included two more desktop pictures: "HiTechMilk" by Jacques R. Blier and "Padded Desktops" by Marcel B.

You can get the theme from my homepage (click signature).

Hope you like it and feel free to post comments or bugs.

This is the MOST AWSOME version of Milk ever!! You gotta like "Black Milk" I'm speachless, please help me breath..

G0Ducks · Nov 29, 2003, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by JellyBeen:
This is the MOST AWSOME version of Milk ever!! You gotta like "Black Milk" I'm speachless, please help me breath..

As much as I am appreciative, as much as I tend to love your themes, I am still overwhelmingly disappointed with the lack of the real, original titlebars of your themes. I must say that it is quite a shock when I downloaded this theme and found that my finder windows were a flat white color with some cool chrome buttons. It made me feel a little mislead as the preview image for this theme has a titlebar. I think that the preview image should at least show the more prominent / typical state of the theme.... the finder window.

Do I need to install demetalifizer or something? If this is the case, then I probably won't use SS anymore. Especially as it has touted a certain amount of themeing freedom, and all I see are a bunch of themes that are still shackled to the metal windows.
I for one am shocked that I haven't seen any posts by BBX about the still continued discontinuities in interface elements, even with SS.

Fellow2000 · Nov 29, 2003, 05:02 AM

Do I need to install demetalifizer or something?

Yep.

Patcarla · Nov 29, 2003, 05:08 AM

Good work as usual Max

I specially love your chrome version. Beautiful port.

G0Ducks · Nov 29, 2003, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by Fellow2000:
Yep.

ah... *cralls in corner and cries*

bOOzo · Nov 29, 2003, 06:15 AM

shapeshifter only?

Yes. Although Milk looks ok with ThemeChanger too. What you can do is apply the theme with ShapeShifter, launch Themepark and create a new theme. Choose to merge everything with installed elements and save that as a dlta.

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not. When I right click on my hard drive or iPod, some of the bevel or whatever it is on the right side of the contextual menu is missing.

It's not a bug, it's a limitation. The right cap is only possible for text. I think it's better than nothing though.

Won't do without a Black Chrome though, specially since you can't edit guikits...
I want it...
(can't stand heavy menus)

Yeah that seems like a good idea. I'll fix that sometime. But you CAN edit guiKits, with Themepark. You create a new theme or guikit and choose to merge with the elements you like. There are good instructions on this on my support/faq section.

I deeply move to tears Max...thanx
For the great theme, and for the reference to my name...

Of course you should have credit, it was your idea.

When I apply the Chrome Milk, I get the the regular milk widgets, not the new ones. Any ideas ?

cs

Are you sure you're applying the right version? make sure the that radio button has the chrome version selected.

And thanks again to all who like it, I'm glad you do

siliconwarrior · Nov 29, 2003, 02:19 PM

Yay, the perfect white theme!

Now, who will win the coveted crown of perfect black theme - Omega or (future version of) TuXedo?

Time will tell...

digitaljames · Nov 29, 2003, 07:54 PM

Max, I just gotta say the "milk drop effect" is too cool for school!

NetworkShadow · Nov 29, 2003, 07:57 PM

Just one thing I kinda was not liking about it is the apple menu, it just seems a bit squished or something? Anyone else kinda feel that way?

fireside · Nov 29, 2003, 09:01 PM

so it now works with panther but looks like crap in the jag finder.

bOOzo · Nov 30, 2003, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by fireside:
so it now works with panther but looks like crap in the jag finder.

It's made for 10.3, not 10.2. It's not possible to have it be backwards compatible, it never was. You will have to stick to Milk 1.6.2.

NetworkShadow · Nov 30, 2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by fireside:
so it now works with panther but looks like crap in the jag finder.

No wonder he's been complaining about SS, he's still back in Jag?