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moonmonkey · Feb 9, 2005, 08:38 AM

um... help.....

Looks like heart attack.

I flushed it already, one of three, I have a sketch of markings.
I live next door to the pet market in Shanghai, should I replace it, or come clean?

This is serious, I need country manager in 6 months.

HELP!

AKcrab · Feb 9, 2005, 08:46 AM

Come clean. They will know.

moonmonkey · Feb 9, 2005, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by AKcrab:
Come clean. They will know.

They will know what?? That I am a fish killer?

How did it drop dead?

I changed the water (waited 10 mins because the water was cold), put a couple of drops of the liquid stuff the gave me, and plopped the buggers in, one hour later, one was dead, not sick looking, not upside down, dead as a f0cking, rotten dead fish.

rjenkinson · Feb 9, 2005, 08:53 AM

come clean and replace the fish.

-r.

Cubeoid · Feb 9, 2005, 09:06 AM

f1000 · Feb 9, 2005, 09:11 AM

^ Hilarious!

mydog8mymac · Feb 9, 2005, 09:16 AM

I thought gold fish only lived for about a year anyway?

sugar_coated · Feb 9, 2005, 09:19 AM

sad..very sad...what death teaches us is very hard to learn.

effgee · Feb 9, 2005, 09:19 AM

what rjenkinson said - replace it and come clean. not sure about the "flushing" part though, it always looks a bit suspicious when you rid yourself of a dead body after an accident.

Xeo · Feb 9, 2005, 09:24 AM

Wow... straight out of a movie.

moonmonkey · Feb 9, 2005, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Cubeoid:

God, that is so correct.

I will recover in time....

BoomStick · Feb 9, 2005, 09:39 AM

I heard that in Shanghai, you pay for a murdered goldfish with your life or you have to wear a necklace of dead fish for a month.

buffalolee · Feb 9, 2005, 09:45 AM

Honesty is the best solution to this problem.

Goldfish are cold water fish. They can survivive when the water is extremely cold.

You do not plunk fish into a tank. After changing water, you let the fish slowly adjust to the temperature of the new tank by placing the fish in a plastic of the water it was in, then placing the bag in the tank until the temperature evens out.

The fish may have died of shock. Too bad you didn't research basic fish care before you changed the water.

Be honest. Buy new fish. Beg for forgiveness. No matter what, do not lie to the boss. If you lie and your boss finds out, you are fired.

Some fish are stronger than others. I had a few fish die on me a few times.

moonmonkey · Feb 9, 2005, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by BoomStick:
I heard that in Shanghai, you pay for a murdered goldfish with your life or you have to wear a necklace of dead fish for a month.

Sh1t, it just gets better and better.....

Curios Meerkat · Feb 9, 2005, 10:12 AM

You did... what?

Your boss should have told you not to plunk the goldfish into a tank of fresh tapwater (and not because of the temperature). Replace the fish, and next time you change the water allow it to settle for a few hours, so that the respiratory system of the fish won't explode (as it likely happened to that poor victim of yours).

demograph68 · Feb 9, 2005, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by sugar_coated:
sad..very sad...what death teaches us is very hard to learn.

Do you wanna learn? I'll teach ya...

wdlove · Feb 9, 2005, 01:09 PM

Being honest would be the best thing. Fish die easily, I'm sure that it's nothing that you have done wrong. Offer to replace the fish.

turtle777 · Feb 9, 2005, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
This is serious, I need country manager in 6 months.

Uhm, WHAT ?

You wanna be a country manager, but can't even baby-sit fish ?

What country do you want to manage anyways ?
Are you gonna flush everyone you kill ?

-t

paully dub · Feb 9, 2005, 03:26 PM

Did you (falsely) pretend to know how to take care of fish? Did you give your boss that impression? If so he may be right in being a little pissed.

But otherwise, chill. Come clean, and offer to buy him a new fish. It's not like it's one of those super rare japanese fighting fish...

It's not like it's a dog or a cat, it's a fish - they're just decoration, aren't they?

Millennium · Feb 9, 2005, 03:54 PM

Come clean. Do not replace the fish immediately -your boss may not want you to do this- but instead offer to replace it when you tell the boss about its death. By giving the boss the option to say no, you will show sensitivity to his (her?) needs, which can only help you in the long run.

Buffalolee's advice about keeping the fish in a plastic bag while they get used to the new water temperature is correct, by the way. Fish can survive in very cold water, but they are extremely sensitive to stress, and there aren't many things that stress them out as much as sudden temperature changes. When you said that it looked like a heart attack you may have been joking -I don't know- but you weren't all that far off from the truth. This phenomenon even has a name: temperature shock.

tooki · Feb 9, 2005, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by mydog8mymac:
I thought gold fish only lived for about a year anyway?

Ha! My old roomie had a goldfish -- Hamlet, the killer goldfish -- which was many years old, and had survived jumping out of the tank several times (the lid had to be weighted down, because the fish could get enough force to lift a loose lid) and electrocution (from a tank heater that cracked), not to mention countless high-speed encounters with the glass of the tank.

I'm not sure THAT fish will ever die.

tooki

Truepop · Feb 10, 2005, 01:39 AM

if only one died out of three then it was just his time. if another one dies... well good luck... fish killer.

ASIMO · Feb 10, 2005, 01:49 AM

What is considered pet in China?

moonmonkey · Feb 10, 2005, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by ASIMO:
What is considered pet in China?

Animals you keep in the home and don't eat.

buffalolee · Feb 10, 2005, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Curios Meerkat:

.....
so that the respiratory system of the fish won't explode (as it likely happened to that poor victim of yours).

Which reminds me, tap water is sometimes aerated from the faucet. So your fish ingests a lot of micro-air bubbles in the water and "explodes" from the inside. I think that is why your fish died so quickly.

Think of it as coming to the surface after a deep dive too quickly. All of the compressed air in your body comes out too quickly and gives you the bend.

Hence....
- Let the tank of water sit for a while
- Never plunk down fish unless you know the water is the similar temperature as the hold cell

I learned all this from reading from a Koi handbook.

turtle777 · Feb 10, 2005, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
Animals you keep in the home and don't eat.

-t

Millennium · Feb 10, 2005, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by mydog8mymac:
I thought gold fish only lived for about a year anyway?

My family's record is eight years, with that particular fish having survived through an interstate move. Most of ours live about 2-3 years, though.

mitchell_pgh · Feb 10, 2005, 01:49 PM

Best way NOT to do it: "your fish is dead... but I want to repay you by having a fish fry"

olePigeon · Feb 10, 2005, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Millennium:
My family's record is eight years, with that particular fish having survived through an interstate move. Most of ours live about 2-3 years, though.

Ditto. We used to have 3 Japanese Coy and they were suppose to eat the little "feeder" gold fish.

Well, they never did and the goldfish just got bigger and bigger. We named one of them Piggy cuz he got friggin' huge. Lived for about 5 years.

Mafia · Feb 10, 2005, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
Animals you keep in the home and don't eat.

lol

Sealobo · 08:37 PM

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
Animals you keep in the home and don't eat.

o... yes indeed.

few years ago i went to China for some event, and i visited a relative's home. he had a super-mixed-breed watch dog with yellow fur and it was chained to a tree. i asked the owner, with plenty of garden space, why chain the dog? "The dog would be eaten if it's fetched by the neighbour", he said. after a year, i went to visit the same guy, and i noticed that he got a new dog, this time with black fur. naturally i asked about the old yellow dog. "o... we ate it", he said.

Mithras · Feb 10, 2005, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Sealobo:
o... yes indeed.

and we'd change our mind from time to time.

So this would be better?

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
Animals you keep in the home and haven't eaten yet.

Sealobo · Feb 10, 2005, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Mithras:
So this would be better?

LOL you got da pt.

olePigeon · Feb 10, 2005, 08:57 PM

Buy him 20 goldfish and ask him to guess which one's his.

When he makes a guess, exclaim "You'r right! How'd you know?!"

moonmonkey · Feb 18, 2005, 09:13 AM

UPDATE.

Took boss aside, explained that the fish committed suicide and jumped out of the bowl. I feel bad about it, but there was really nothing I could have done.

He laughed and said he hated it anyway, asked me to "do my magic" on the other two.
I declined and will give them back on Saturday.

Happy ending, good boss!

Randman · Feb 18, 2005, 09:16 AM

Just wait till your annual review. No ang pao for you.

moonmonkey · Feb 18, 2005, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by Randman:
Just wait till your annual review. No ang pao for you.

Last november, recommendations signed and agreed and come back in March, hopefully too late to change.

wataru · Feb 18, 2005, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by mydog8mymac:
I thought gold fish only lived for about a year anyway?

That's only true for incompetent owners who keep them in bowls (or commit any of many other possible mistakes). Goldfish need very, very large tanks to grow to full size.

turtle777 · Feb 18, 2005, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
He laughed and said he hated it anyway, asked me to "do my magic" on the other two.
I declined and will give them back on Saturday.

You declined ?

There goes your next raise out the window

-t

buffalolee · Feb 18, 2005, 11:47 AM

Maybe you can offer to keep the Goldfish, and give it to your next door neighbor or something. That way, you boss does not have to deal with Goldfish anymore so he can get himself a hamster, guinea pig, or ferret.

Cute cuddly creatures are a babe magnet.

hyperb0le · Feb 18, 2005, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by wataru:
Goldfish need very, very large tanks to grow to full size.

For some reason, when I read this, I was reminded of the child's story "A Fish Out of Water"