[kmarketing]

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore

Nice!

[theyoda3]

NO! How did you beat me, by 1 minute. You weren't there when my page updated!

EDIT: That's because you didn't! Ha! I beat you by one minute but I made an edit so it looks like mine was 1 minute later. Sadly, we still have 2 threads on this.

[kmarketing]

Gotcha!!

[Big Mac]

one firewire 800! That just made Apple a bit cooler again. DL Superdrive returns, too.

[Eug Wanker]

$100 cheaper if you're willing to take 2x512 MB.

I'm surprised that Apple isn't advertising a $100 lower price.

P.S. 7200 rpm 100 GB is the same price as 120 GB 5400 rpm.

[Nyl]

the pricing is little wrong... 15" 2.16 MBP has the same price as the 17" , while 17" gives bigger screen, bigger HDD, faster super drive, firewire 800 and one extra USB

what's going on here !?

[ajprice]

Spec up a 15" to 2.16GHz and a 120Gb hard drive and its more expensive than the 17"!!

17" - £1999

15" upgraded - £2059

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Nyl

the pricing is little wrong... 15" 2.16 MBP has the same price as the 17" , while 17" gives bigger screen, bigger HDD, faster super drive, firewire 800 and one extra USB

what's going on here !?

I don't get it either. The 2.16 GHz 15" MacBook is only CAD$40 cheaper than the 17", and that's with the slower hard drive.

[eddiecatflap]

it's an exc. piece of kit

[Andy8]

keeping FW800 rocks

[angelmb]

There is one thing I don't like (if one can say such thing about such computer) but having had a 17 inches in the past, the fact that the slot loadind drive is placed just below the palm rest surface in opposite as how they did it with the 15 inches MacBook Pro (placed almost at the bottom) is not cool since I think the 17 inches is going to be prone -again- to produce noises … well my 17 inches was a first revision, maybe Apple solved some time ago!

Noticeable here:




Funny enough, the MacBook Pro shown here, has it placed at middle heigh, nice render I guess

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

[kcmac]

I think we're getting ready to see a price cut on the 15's.

[ajprice]

Originally Posted by ajprice

Spec up a 15" to 2.16GHz and a 120Gb hard drive and its more expensive than the 17"!!

17" - £1999

15" upgraded - £2059

Quoting myself, the base price is actually £1929, if you spec the RAM to 2x512Mb instead of the standard 1x1Gb. £130 cheaper and you still get a bigger screen and 8x DL DVD drive.

Weirder and weirder!!!

[slugslugslug]

Well, since it looks like this'll be the thread: They added a USB port. That was nice of 'em.

If I wanted to carry around something that big, I'd be all over this thing, but I'm still waiting for the 13.3"..

[Nyl]

exactly, i've been using PB 15" but i'm guessing i'd go for a macbook (ibook) for my next one ... only if macbook uses coreduo

[WOPR]

Surely the 15" has to go down then? Although that will p1ss off a lot of people!

[JeffsJeep04]

It all makes sense now...most people would opt for the 15" over the 17" in the past due to it being...well, basically a 17" as far as specs go with a smaller screen. Right now, I'd take the bigger size because it comes with a DL dvd burner, an extra USB, and most importantly, FW800.

Too bad still no s-video though...

[ehunt]

Just ordered it as my pBook is dieing a slow death right now! Lack of s-video sucks though....

[WOPR]

I can't believe people are still whining about having to use a small adaptor to get S-Video!

[sledsbehave]

what is the point of the 17" really?

isn't the 15.4" screen the same resolution? 1440x900?

unless the resolution is boosted, i don't see a need for it...

just add FW800 to the 15.4"

[JeffsJeep04]

It's not that you need the adaptor....it's that it's not included. One thing that impresses people most about my powerbook (sadly) is that I can just plug it into any TV and the tv just works as a second monitor. I had a friend with a PC that had an svideo port...and he gave up after about 15 minutes of dicking around trying to get it to work.

There is generally no better way to show your work to a large group of people so easily that using a TV. It has quite a few practical uses in the pro world (I'm a photographer, and find it quite useful), so I don't see why apple isn't including at least the adaptor for it.

[slugslugslug]

Originally Posted by sledsbehave

what is the point of the 17" really?

isn't the 15.4" screen the same resolution? 1440x900?

Did you even look at the specs? The resolutions are different.

[Stratus Fear]

Originally Posted by WOPR

I can't believe people are still whining about having to use a small adaptor to get S-Video!

I can't believe nobody's whined about the lack of a modem yet.

[Stradlater]

Looks like a very nice machine. I love my 17" PB, but I think I'd rather have a 13.3" [i/Mac]Book and supplement that with a dedicated desktop -- iMacs are pretty nice these days.

[sledsbehave]

Originally Posted by slugslugslug

Did you even look at the specs? The resolutions are different.

i just noticed it. my bad

[Stradlater]

Originally Posted by sledsbehave

what is the point of the 17" really?

isn't the 15.4" screen the same resolution? 1440x900?

unless the resolution is boosted, i don't see a need for it...

just add FW800 to the 15.4"

And another USB port? And DL 8x SuperDrive?

The specs differ more than FW800, including the resolution that you failed to notice

[sledsbehave]

Originally Posted by Stratus Fear

I can't believe nobody's whined about the lack of a modem yet.

or the lack of a floppy disk drive

[sledsbehave]

Originally Posted by Stradlater

And another USB port? And DL 8x SuperDrive?

The specs differ more than FW800, including the resolution that you failed to notice

yes, yes, i failed to notice, as i said, my bad...

very nice machine, prolly the best machine for the money

[Stratus Fear]

Originally Posted by sledsbehave

or the lack of a floppy disk drive

I still have a floppy drive from my pre-iMac Core Duo PC lying on my desk. Tried to get rid of it, no one wants it

[mindwaves]

A big laptop that's grown even bigger. No thanks. I'll wait for the 13.3'' whatever.

[danengel]

This thing is about as portable as diesel generator and a 20" iMac... when will we get a thin & light MacBook??

[WOPR]

Originally Posted by Stratus Fear

I can't believe nobody's whined about the lack of a modem yet.

I can't see an ADB or SCSI port anywhere either. I HATE YOU APPLE!

[Stratus Fear]

Originally Posted by danengel

This thing is about as portable as diesel generator and a 20" iMac... when will we get a thin & light MacBook??

Sure this thing is a bit large, but have you compared it to other 17"ers on the market?? I haven't found any as small as this one is.

[Lateralus]

Originally Posted by Big Mac

one firewire 800! That just made Apple a bit cooler again.

I was thinking the same thing.

[danengel]

Originally Posted by Stratus Fear

Sure this thing is a bit large, but have you compared it to other 17"ers on the market?? I haven't found any as small as this one is.

I find even the 15" too heavy. I don't care about actual screen size, only about the resolution. Other manufacturers cram much more pixels in smaller screens. Why can't we have a 4 lbs MacBook/iBook?

[onlykaria]

Originally Posted by WOPR

Surely the 15" has to go down then? Although that will p1ss off a lot of people!

yes that looks to be the class... i am already annoyed... mostly at the dl 8x burner.... which apple made it seem was like impossible on a laptop so thin... but there it is...blah....

[Stratus Fear]

Originally Posted by danengel

I find even the 15" too heavy. I don't care about actual screen size, only about the resolution. Other manufacturers cram much more pixels in smaller screens. Why can't we have a 4 lbs MacBook/iBook?

For me, there's a point where resolution becomes too much at a certain screen size. I can read just fine really high resolutions on small screens, but that doesn't mean it's comfortable. IMO, 1440x900 is good on the 15", and the 12" ought to be 1280x1024 at most. For the rumored 13.3", probably 1280x800. To me, that would be comfortable. I don't always care much for size either -- 17" is a nice machine, if I wanted it. For me, 15" is a great compromise between features, screen size/resolution and portability between the 12" and 17". As it is, the 15" isn't quite 6 pounds and the 12" isn't quite five pounds, I don't see much difference in that one pound, but everyone's different, so...

[slffl]

I sure hope the screen opens wider than the 15" MBP. I took the 15" MBP back because the screen faced my chest while it was on my lap. Unfortunately I don't see any indication it will since the 17" pretty much has the same design as the 15" and came out pretty soon after the 15".

[Eug Wanker]

I wonder how long it will take Apple to drop 15" pricing.

Originally Posted by Stratus Fear

For me, there's a point where resolution becomes too much at a certain screen size. I can read just fine really high resolutions on small screens, but that doesn't mean it's comfortable. IMO, 1440x900 is good on the 15", and the 12" ought to be 1280x1024 at most. For the rumored 13.3", probably 1280x800. To me, that would be comfortable. I don't always care much for size either -- 17" is a nice machine, if I wanted it. For me, 15" is a great compromise between features, screen size/resolution and portability between the 12" and 17". As it is, the 15" isn't quite 6 pounds and the 12" isn't quite five pounds, I don't see much difference in that one pound, but everyone's different, so...

Yeah, my 15" TiBook was 1280x854, so the 13" would be close at 1280x800. I'd have to have the screen a little closer I guess though. 13" and 1280x800 makes sense too, since the screens are already available, and Aperture requires a 1280x780 minimum screen size.

I have no desire for the 17", and even the 15" is too big for me. Not so great in economy class on the plane. However, my friends are all over that 17". It must be nice to regularly take business class for overseas flights...

[onlykaria]

i wonder if this will have any of the issues of the 15"mpb:
whine
heat
so on and so on...

[fisherKing]

guess this means the 13.3" by...june?
am holding my breath... (insert "holding-my-breath" smiley here)

[MaxPower2k3]

At least they list battery life for the MBPs on their site now. 5.5 hours for the 17" seems just a bit optimistic, though... what did they say the 17" PB would get? I didn't think it was that high.

4.5 hours for the 15"... people have been getting, what, 3 to 3.5 hours in real-world use? So I guess figure about 4 hours with a 17" apple exaggerates similarly with both?

[threestain]

but then you go blind from having to stare at tiny pixels all day. My flatmate is the same - he goes for the highest resolution possible. And then can't see anything, not even the tv anymore cos his eyesight is buggered.

[b11051973]

Originally Posted by onlykaria

yes that looks to be the class... i am already annoyed... mostly at the dl 8x burner.... which apple made it seem was like impossible on a laptop so thin... but there it is...blah....

Actually, Apple said that no one built a DL burner that was thin enough. They said that when someone did, they'd put it in. Well, someone did and Apple put it in.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by b11051973

Actually, Apple said that no one built a DL burner that was thin enough. They said that when someone did, they'd put it in. Well, someone did and Apple put it in.

I wonder what model it is. So far I have not come across a 9.5 mm 8X DL drive.

Originally Posted by fisherKing

guess this means the 13.3" by...june?
am holding my breath... (insert "holding-my-breath" smiley here)

I damn well hope so.

[onlykaria]

Originally Posted by b11051973

Actually, Apple said that no one built a DL burner that was thin enough. They said that when someone did, they'd put it in. Well, someone did and Apple put it in.

yeah i dont know what they said, just seems like apple did and is continueing to **** over early adopters plus if thats the case why not put it into new 15inchers....

[MaxPower2k3]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I wonder what model it is. So far I have not come across a 9.5 mm 8X DL drive.

it could still be the thicker one they used in the last PBs that still fits in the 17" because of the extra room (but not the 15")

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by onlykaria

yeah i dont know what they said, just seems like apple did and is continueing to **** over early adopters plus if thats the case why not put it into new 15inchers....

Well, if you didn't like the specs of the first release Macbook Pro 15", why did you get it? As if Apple didn't put the drive in just to piss off early adopters...

[Ian_Bullock]

Come on guys! Apple delivered a new laptop that fixed most of the problems that you were all whining about - too few USBs, no DL DVD burner, no firewire 800. And now you're complaining about Apple ****ing over early adopters instead and the lack of S-video? What would satisfy you? I'm guessing a 15" macbook pro with all the features of the 17". But then some of you would complain about the 17" having no extra features for the extra money, and others would complain about the 15" being to big and how they want a 13" macbook pro, not just a 13" macbook! Sigh... I hope that post makes sense, may have gone on a nonsensical rant, but I think you get the gist

Ps: I'm not really annoyed, just teasing that's all.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Ian_Bullock

Come on guys! Apple delivered a new laptop that fixed most of the problems that you were all whining about - too few USBs, no DL DVD burner, no firewire 800. And now you're complaining about Apple ****ing over early adopters instead and the lack of S-video? What would satisfy you? I'm guessing a 15" macbook pro with all the features of the 17". But then some of you would complain about the 17" having no extra features for the extra money, and others would complain about the 15" being to big and how they want a 13" macbook pro, not just a 13" macbook! Sigh... I hope that post makes sense, may have gone on a nonsensical rant, but I think you get the gist

Ps: I'm not really annoyed, just teasing that's all.

Some will always whine, and I'm talking about forums members, not the Macbooks.