[stumblinmike]

Hoo-Boy...It will be a long time before the right has ANY power....

[design219]

It's kind of sad to have an entertainer as a leader.

[stumblinmike]

True, but it is better than an unlicensed, tax evading plumber!

[Doofy]

Dammit. I thought Rush was the defacto leader of progressive rock bands.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Dammit. I thought Rush was the defacto leader of progressive rock bands.

Okay, clearly they are. Rush Limbaugh is the political one. You might say he's an oak who ignores the pleas of the maples.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by stumblinmike 

True, but it is better than an unlicensed, tax evading plumber!

Yeah, those positions are all reserved for Obama's cabinet posts such as Treasury Secretary, Health and Human Services, White House chief performance officer, and Labor Secretary.

Wait, they weren't plumbers. Nevermind.

[stumblinmike]

Neither is Joe, and he WAS invited to speak to the lemmings

[design219]

Originally Posted by stumblinmike 

he WAS invited to speak to the lemmings

That is also sad.

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by stumblinmike 

Hoo-Boy...It will be a long time before the right has ANY power....

2 years will go by quickly

Originally Posted by design219 

It's kind of sad to have an entertainer as a leader.

Better an entertainer than a Soros/Move On puppet

[besson3c]

And here we go... Let the match begin!

[goMac]

It's nice to see that the Republicans are handing the Democrats 2012 on a silver platter...

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by goMac 

It's nice to see that the Republicans are handing the Democrats 2012 on a silver platter...

That was the same sentiment in 1977.

[ironknee]

wait! what about palin and jindal?

[olePigeon]

And do all my drinking buddies out there: maverick *mimes opening a beer*

[olePigeon]

Speaking of Rush, anyone see the movie Fanboys?

[finboy]

Originally Posted by stumblinmike 

Neither is Joe, and he WAS invited to speak to the lemmings

I don't remember him at The Coronation (Inauguration). Are you sure about that?

Rush is the leader of Jack & spit, and Jack's left town. He sells ads, that's all. I've never heard Limbaugh say anything new or different from core conservative principles without getting flak from both sides.

Much to the chagrin of the hard core Lefties, conservatives don't have one or two gurus that determine how we should think. Makes it hard to "figure out" our "single-issue" voting patterns, don't it? Principles are a lot bigger than most people take into account.

[The Crook]

Originally Posted by finboy 

Much to the chagrin of the hard core Lefties, conservatives don't have one or two gurus that determine how we should think. Makes it hard to "figure out" our "single-issue" voting patterns, don't it? Principles are a lot bigger than most people take into account.

Um, tax cuts.

That's basically conservative fiscal policy in two words. Tax cuts as a solution to everything. Tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts. No need for "gurus" when everyone knows where conservatives stand on every economic issue anyway.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Liberals= wetting themselves over a talk show host since 1988. Classic.

Clearly, dealing with actual free speech isn't something the left is really very good at.

[finboy]

Originally Posted by The Crook 

Um, tax cuts.

I'll take your word for it.

Did anyone see The Hill's piece on how the Dem leadership is taking on Limbaugh.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-03-02.html

It's hard to believe that they actually take him seriously. [How long before we hear the 'racism' accusations over his criticism of Steele?] Remember when The Right was accused of attacking people's patriotism? That's next -- if you don't support Obama's brand of socialism you're a racist, or Luddite, or worse. The cry came from The Left way back when because they knew it was already in the Saul Alinsky playbook, and they were waiting for a chance to use it.

[Shaddim]

The Left is scared of that old windbag? Gee, that's sad.

[- - e r i k - -]

This guy is such a charmer. Look at him go!

[stumblinmike]

He's on a mix of oxy and viagra, it appears he has ants in his pants! Ladies and gentlemen, the future of the republican party.....

[stumblinmike]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE 

Liberals= wetting themselves over a talk show host since 1988. Classic.

Clearly, dealing with actual free speech isn't something the left is really very good at.

He has the absolute right to say anything he pleases. You have the absolute right to listen to him. I'm just saying, your judged by the company you keep...Limbaugh, Coulter, Plumber, Palin, etc

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE 

Liberals= wetting themselves over a talk show host since 1988. Classic.

Clearly, dealing with actual free speech isn't something the left is really very good at.

If this is liberals wetting themselves, then I guess conservatives wet themselves over the Clintons.

[stumblinmike]

Originally Posted by finboy 

I don't remember him at The Coronation (Inauguration). Are you sure about that?

Rush is the leader of Jack & spit, and Jack's left town. He sells ads, that's all. I've never heard Limbaugh say anything new or different from core conservative principles without getting flak from both sides.

Much to the chagrin of the hard core Lefties, conservatives don't have one or two gurus that determine how we should think. Makes it hard to "figure out" our "single-issue" voting patterns, don't it? Principles are a lot bigger than most people take into account.

Well, there are a few core rightwing issues..gay marriage, flag burning, really important stuff like that....
Meanwhile, Rome burns...

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by stumblinmike 

He's on a mix of oxy and viagra, it appears he has ants in his pants! Ladies and gentlemen, the future of the republican party.....

Rush get his from the same place Bubba does

[stumblinmike]

I didn't know you were a crotch highlighter!

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Chongo 

Rush get his from the same place Bubba does

That made me spit beer out of my nose.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak 

If this is liberals wetting themselves, then I guess conservatives wet themselves over the Clintons.

You just compared a former President and a former first lady and Senator to...


... a talk show host.

Way to illustrate my point for me! Classic!

No wonder Obama feels threatened by a guy on the radio- "Oh no! He says things I don't agree with!" It's amazingly weak that a President would even feel the need to acknowledge a talk show host.

It says FAR more about the left's distrust for freedom of speech, than anything about Rush. But I do love how a guy talking on the radio brings out the REAL left- absolutely to the core terrified of free speech. Free speech to much of the left really does mean "freedom to spout leftwing drivel" only.

[besson3c]

Hey guys! Sorry, I've been busy, just returning to this thread now... Who's winning?

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

I'm curious, did Bush ever wet himself over Michael Moore or any of the legions of leftwing chatterboxes? Better yet, did he want some 'fairness doctrine' in place to try and silence them? I'd call that equally weak.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Besson- same score it's been for over 20 years now:

Talk show host: 1

Lefties afraid of a talk show host: 0

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE 

I'm curious, did Bush ever wet himself over Michael Moore or any of the legions of leftwing chatterboxes? Better yet, did he want some 'fairness doctrine' in place to try and silence them? I'd call that equally weak.

Silence? Hell, I'm hoping this law makes NPR give equal time to conservative commentators.

I'd love for this to come back and bite them in the ass.

[Captain Obvious]

Yes, he is the Republican leader in as much as Jesse Jackson is leader for America's black people.

[stupendousman]

Captain Obvious makes a good point. Did any of the Republican leaders ever really react to the individual lefties, not in elected public office? Did Reagan even acknowledge any of his critics? Of course not. It makes the President look small and in the same league as his critics.

This is the same rookie mistake Democrats make over and over. Sure, it makes the hardcore base feel good, but it makes them look silly to the "regular" Americans. It's the same thing they tried with Gingrich and failed (Gingrich loss support by not practicing what he preached) and Limbaugh himself in the past. Until Clinton stopped worrying about his critics and started to just go to the American people, he tripped himself up the same way. Dick Morris taught him well.

I'm surprised Obama has taken the bait so easily...but then again, I'd actually hoped that maybe he was as smart as he pretended to be during the campaign. I was wrong.

[besson3c]

Go yellow team!!

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by stupendousman 

Until Clinton stopped worrying about his critics and started to just go to the American people, he tripped himself up the same way. Dick Morris taught him well.

It was Dick Morris that convinced Clinton to sign onto the Contract with America agenda, most notably the welfare reform he vetoed twice before he signed it just prior to the "96 election. Morris told him "If you don't sign this, you won't be reelected."


Ironically, the "stimulus" bill BO signed repeals the reforms Clinton signed into law.

[ironknee]

yee haw let's not include the cost of 2 wars in our budget!

[Macrobat]

The per-year interest payments (just the interest, not even counting the expenditures themselves) on just the stuff Obambi has pushed through so far dwarf the expenditures on Iraq and Afghantistan. It is $1B (yes billion) per DAY. And that's at the CURRENT interest rate of .2%, there are already warnings of that rising to 1.6%.

Obama and all you lefties whined and moaned about the deficit for 8 years - Obambi quadrupled it in less than one month.

All this while deliberately passing policies that will hamstring the economy's ability to produce the fundage to meet them.

The big Zero has now committed this country to spending more money in his first term than even EXISTS on the planet at this time.

Yet you feign mystification that Limbaugh wants his policies to fail.

[OAW]

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

Obama and all you lefties whined and moaned about the deficit for 8 years - Obambi quadrupled it in less than one month.

By including in the actual budget war expenditures that the Bush administration kept off the books for all this time huh? And now that that's being done those on the right want to scream to high heaven about budget deficits!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...xXsfQD96JB6DG0

OAW

[Macrobat]

Originally Posted by OAW 

By including in the actual budget war expenditures that the Bush administration kept off the books for all this time huh? And now that that's being done those on the right want to scream to high heaven about budget deficits!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...xXsfQD96JB6DG0

OAW

Obama cannot add enough money to Bush's deficit to BEGIN to compete with his own expenditures. Keep laughing.

[ironknee]

so why did bush spend $750 billion to bail out the banks? why when the rubber met the road did he not stick by his "principles?"

[Chongo]

From my post in BO porkulus thread

[Macrobat]

Originally Posted by ironknee 

so why did bush spend $750 billion to bail out the banks? why when the rubber met the road did he not stick by his "principals?"

Keep living in the past. FYI, the bank bail-out came AFTER Bush's meetings with Obama post-election and are obviously extensions of his policies. Add 2 and 2.

[ironknee]

it happened in september

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...out/index.html

so you were saying?

[Macrobat]

Originally Posted by ironknee 

it happened in september

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...out/index.html

so you were saying?

It doesn't even matter and is not germaine to the discussion of the FACT that Obimbo QUADRUPLED the deficit in less than one month. Misdirection when you KNOW you're on a losing side won't work.

I disagreed with the "bailouts' when they occurred - regardless.

Name just ONE thing in Obimbo's policies that would have changed if those "bailouts" had never happened.

Keep tossing that "yeah, but . . ." argument and I will keep throwing it back at you.

Yeah, Big 0 is "sticking to his principles" and dragging the entire country after him down the toilet.

You were saying?

[OAW]

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

It doesn't even matter and is not germaine to the discussion of the FACT that Obimbo QUADRUPLED the deficit in less than one month. Misdirection when you KNOW you're on a losing side won't work.

Oh so now it doesn't matter huh?

Furthermore, it appears that you are a bit uhhhh ... how shall I put this charitably ... mathematically challenged. If the Obama administration inherited a 1 trillion dollar deficit .... and his budget proposal projects a 1.75 trillion dollar deficit for the fiscal year 2009 ... please explain how he has "QUADRUPLED the deficit in one month"? I mean .... really.

Now why those on the right are feigning such "shock' at the projected deficit is beyond me.

The $1.75 trillion budget deficit forecast for this year reflects shortfalls accumulated under Bush as well as new spending proposals under the $787 billion economic stimulus package Obama signed earlier this month.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090226/...s_obama_budget

So guys .... just cut it out and stop embarrassing yourself. Seriously.

OAW

[Macrobat]

Originally Posted by OAW 

Oh so now it doesn't matter huh?

Furthermore, it appears that you are a bit uhhhh ... how shall I put this charitably ... mathematically challenged. If the Obama administration inherited a 1 trillion dollar deficit .... and his budget proposal projects a 1.75 trillion dollar deficit for the fiscal year 2009 ... please explain how he has "QUADRUPLED the deficit in one month"? I mean .... really.

Now why those on the right are feigning such "shock' at the projected deficit is beyond me.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090226/...s_obama_budget

So guys .... just cut it out and stop embarrassing yourself. Seriously.

OAW

Seems you are the one mathematically challenged. The deficit for 2008 was $435 billion, 4 x $435 billion = $1.74 trillion. In the next three years, the government will need to borrow $3.6 trillion. By very definition - a deficit.

Compare apples to apples, Obama's one-year deficit - by your very own numbers - is quadruple (and more) Bush's highest one-year deficit.

That's BORROW as in, it will have to be paid back - with interest.

Yet you actually BRAG that his ONE YEAR deficit will be "only" three-quarters of a trillion dollars more then the ENTIRE Bush deficit - for eight years.

Just keep trying to compare 8 years of a presidency to what Zero has spent in one month - please do.

It's not we who are embarrassed. Or at least you SHOULD be.

[ironknee]

you should slow down with your coffee intake.

my simple question is why did bush approve a $700 billion dollar bailout when the sh1t hit the fan?

wasn't there a conservative plan he could have taken?

you say you disagreed with it ...ok cool... but why did bush support it?

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

It doesn't even matter and is not germaine to the discussion of the FACT that Obimbo QUADRUPLED the deficit in less than one month. Misdirection when you KNOW you're on a losing side won't work.

I disagreed with the "bailouts' when they occurred - regardless.

Name just ONE thing in Obimbo's policies that would have changed if those "bailouts" had never happened.

Keep tossing that "yeah, but . . ." argument and I will keep throwing it back at you.

Yeah, Big 0 is "sticking to his principles" and dragging the entire country after him down the toilet.

You were saying?

[Macrobat]

Originally Posted by ironknee 

you should slow down with your coffee intake.

my simple question is why did bush approve a $700 billion dollar bailout when the sh1t hit the fan?

wasn't there a conservative plan he could have taken?

you say you disagreed with it ...ok cool... but why did bush support it?

Not being George Bush, I have no idea why he moronically supported it, why?

The "conservative plan" was attempted in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007 by the Bush Administration in attempts to regulate and bring under control the Fannie/Freddie meltdown before it occurred.
Attempts that were blocked by Democratic committee members who, we have now learned, were into the pockets of those very organizations.
Threatened with - among other tactics - a filibuster by the junior Senator from Illinois - wonder where THAT guy is now?

Examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_2D4mK95NQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN31-nKndg8

This was an economy that was GROWING until AFTER Democrats regained control of Congress in 2006, yet everyone has blamed the Bush Administration for everything.