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Feb 17, 2015, 02:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
As an aside, is New Mexico really the land of enchantment, or is it PR?
The Albuquerque PD is not very enchanting.
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Feb 17, 2015, 02:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
As an aside, is New Mexico really the land of enchantment, or is it PR?
I love NM. Especially the Santa Fe area.
     
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Feb 17, 2015, 02:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
The Albuquerque PD is not very enchanting.
No big city PD is
     
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Apr 5, 2015, 04:53 PM
 
Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!

     
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Apr 5, 2015, 07:49 PM
 
I think you better go this time.
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Apr 5, 2015, 07:54 PM
 
It's not paranoia. They know who you are. They know where you live. And they are out to get you.
     
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Apr 5, 2015, 08:24 PM
 
Did this arrive on April 1st?
     
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Apr 6, 2015, 01:30 PM
 
Threats, and a guilt-trip.

     
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Apr 6, 2015, 02:54 PM
 
Yeah, that's not good.
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Apr 6, 2015, 03:25 PM
 
Just go.
The chances are good you won't even be picked.
     
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Apr 7, 2015, 01:05 AM
 
Don't bathe or comb your hair and wear a dirty white t-shirt, also rub a little alcohol into your eyes before going into the courtroom (use one of those sealed wetnap-type ethylene pads), then spend the whole time staring at the defense attorney, if you really want to get out of it. I doubt you'll even have to say a word.
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Apr 7, 2015, 07:09 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Yeah, that's not good.
I'm contemplating telling the judge to "come at me, bro".

In theory I could get three days of jail, but that seems to be reserved for people who skip out of an active trial.
     
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Apr 7, 2015, 11:01 AM
 
And I do in fact hold the court in contempt. I'm not gonna lie.
     
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Apr 8, 2015, 06:52 AM
 
In theory, there are subsequent side effects of being held in contempt. Employment can be impacted by something as simple as this.

They're not going to give you a pass on this. You may as well go in and see what it is you're avoiding. Yes, it's inconvenient, but it's likely to take only one or two days to get it out of the way, and you'll probably go to the bottom of their list once you do show up.

My opinion here, but still....

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Apr 8, 2015, 07:38 AM
 
Just go.
You aren't so special that they'll let you slide on this. This isn't something you want to fall on your sword for.
     
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Apr 8, 2015, 10:19 AM
 
I don't expect them to let me slide... I'm not that entitled. I'm assuming I can soak what they throw at me.

I'm checking around to see how nasty they're going to get.

And to reiterate, I'm copping an attitude only because they're trying to send me to BFE.
     
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Apr 8, 2015, 10:34 AM
 
Go. Go in costume. Pick one: Darth Vader, pink fairy (with tutu!) or Santa Claus.
     
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Apr 8, 2015, 10:38 AM
 
Honestly, I don't hold the court in that much contempt.

That's the other reason I don't want to go. My senseless moral code means if I go, I take it seriously.
     
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Apr 8, 2015, 04:04 PM
 
I Googled 'how to get out of jury duty' and this seems pretty good (from here How to Get Out of Jury Duty: 12 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow) :

Mention the right of a jury to "veto." If selected to be on a jury, the judge will ask you to swear to find a verdict based solely on the facts presented in court.[5] Refuse to swear this on the grounds that the jury has a right to find a verdict as they see fit. This right is called "jury nullification." In short, it allows a jury to return a verdict of "innocent" when the accused is clearly guilty. The jury can do this if it disagrees with the law itself. Although the Supreme court has affirmed this right, prosecutors and judges usually hate it. Any prosecutor will almost certainly reject you for the jury if you suggest there's a chance you would use your right to veto.

Ask the judge if he/she would have convicted Harriet Tubman for violating the federal Fugitive Slave Laws. Was her role in the Underground Railroad for escaped slaves punishable?
Would he/she have convicted Rosa Parks for violating the segregation laws in Montgomery, Alabama? Was her refusal to move to the back of the bus when the bus driver told her to give up her seat to a white passenger punishable?
The judge might say that he/she would have instructed juries to convict these women because "the law is the law." You should have a response prepared for that:
"Blind obedience wasn't accepted as a defense during the War Crimes Tribunal at Nuremberg. Many Nazis claimed that they were just 'following orders,' too."
Read about cases that demonstrate the power of jury nullification. Recommended cases include State of Georgia v. Brailsford, 3 U.S. 1, 4 (1794); U.S. v. Moylan, 417 F.2d 1002 (4th Cir.1969); United States v. Dougherty, 473 F.2d 1113; United States v. Wilson, 629 F.2d 439, 443 (6th Cir.1980); US v. Krzyske, 836 F. 2d 1013 - Court of Appeals, 6th Circuit 1988; and U.S. v. Thomas No. 95-1337 (2nd Cir. 5-20-97).
     
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Apr 8, 2015, 07:49 PM
 
That's some proud American shit right there
Mankind's only chance is to harness the power of stupid.
     
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Apr 9, 2015, 03:13 AM
 
Did you call to see if they would transfer you to a closer court?
     
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Apr 9, 2015, 11:44 AM
 
I have yet to do it, but am toying with it.

Similar to a problem I have "discussing" things on the Internet, I'm having trouble defining my problems in non-insulting terms.

Them: why do you want to move the court location closer?
Me: Really? Really? You need to ask? Do you people in ****sville like wasting your time driving out to the middle of nowhere?
     
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Apr 10, 2015, 03:12 PM
 
Them: Why do you want to move the court location closer?
Me: Because it was a dick move to make it that far.
     
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Apr 10, 2015, 11:30 PM
 
Them: why do you want to move the court location closer?
Me: you're the one who wants to move it closer, it's just I'm apparently the only one smart enough to realize that.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 05:35 AM
 
Dun! Dun! Dun!

     
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Apr 22, 2015, 09:36 AM
 
Reporting for duty!

     
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Apr 22, 2015, 10:39 AM
 
Oh, you're a Camel smoker, good show. On the rare occasion that I smoke, that's what I buy.

You look chipper!
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Apr 22, 2015, 11:00 AM
 
I was actually freezing my ass off.

We just got the "jury summons and you" video. They actually coughed up the dough for Lester Holt.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 11:09 AM
 
A question if I have to report the next time I receive a summons. Is it safe to run an iPad through the Xray machine? They let me put my iPhone in the little basket and bypass the machine the last time I had to report. I was lucky and was called in the first group last time and was out by 10am. If I get stuck waiting all day, I'd like to have my iPad since they have screaming fast WiFi and can watch Netflix etc.
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Apr 22, 2015, 11:21 AM
 
I've run my iPad (and iPhone) through X-rays at the airport hundreds of times, it's not a problem.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 01:31 PM
 
About to get back from lunch. No panels called yet.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 03:01 PM
 
Aaaaand... canceled.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 03:21 PM
 
So you have to go back again?
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 04:36 PM
 
Thankfully, no. Not for a year.

It was a little weird though to have 40 people do nothing for six hours...

Or as Lester told us, "the most important part of our unique legal system".
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 04:38 PM
 
They just cut you loose?
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Apr 22, 2015, 04:39 PM
 
Yup. Everybody went bench trial today. All the kids are into that these days.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 04:43 PM
 
Congrats then
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 04:45 PM
 
Thank you!

I feel so American right now.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 04:45 PM
 
Don't forget to bump this thread next year
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 05:03 PM
 
It was actually a good 10 years since I last came up in the lottery, but I supposedly could get a new summons tomorrow. My check stub is a "get out of jury free" card for the year.

$17.40

Juno from Beetlejuice ran the place. She was not taking your shit about low wages, or anything, for that matter.

I can use the $17.40 to pay the $50 ticket for my expired plate Officer Squarenuts gave me while I was doing my civic duty.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 05:59 PM
 
$17.40? That's just enough money to purchase mindwaves' official school transcript.

Slick shoes?! Are you crazy?!
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 10:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Stogieman View Post
$17.40? That's just enough money to purchase mindwaves' official school transcript.
     
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Apr 22, 2015, 10:51 PM
 
It's the circle of life, mother****ers!
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Reporting for duty!

America, f--- yeah!
     
 
 
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