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Any benefits of Roxio's Toast?
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PabloTX
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May 13, 2003, 05:29 PM
 
Are there either any deficiencies in OS X, or benefits of Roxio's Toast that make it necessary/beneficial over the built-in burning software (including iDVD)?
     
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May 13, 2003, 05:40 PM
 
Toast is MUCH more flexible. It supports more formats. And from what I've found, it burns faster than the Finder. Plus, the Finder adds an extra step to burning, when you 'copy' the files to the CD, whereas Toast doesn't require that 'copying' of the files.

Someone who is more versed in Toast can give more details, but Toast is much better than the Finder burning. If your needs are very simple, then you might not need Toast.
     
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May 13, 2003, 05:47 PM
 
Toast will allow you to burn data CD's that are readable on a PC (OS X will not), which I need to do occasionally.

From an audio CD perspective, I use Jam (a Toast add-on) to do crossfades on compilation CD's that I make. iTunes won't burn crossfades.


Originally posted by PabloTX:
Are there either any deficiencies in OS X, or benefits of Roxio's Toast that make it necessary/beneficial over the built-in burning software (including iDVD)?
     
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May 13, 2003, 08:05 PM
 
Toast rocks.
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Jul 7, 2003, 01:27 PM
 
I'm burning Data DVDs, is Toast $90 faster?

Does Toast 5 for osx burn in the background? Because if it overtakes my system like the old toast for OS9, its a waste of time and money!
     
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Jul 7, 2003, 01:37 PM
 
Buy Toast. Worth all the money you'll pay for it if you burn a lot.

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Jul 7, 2003, 01:37 PM
 
Originally posted by solecist:
I'm burning Data DVDs, is Toast $90 faster?

Does Toast 5 for osx burn in the background? Because if it overtakes my system like the old toast for OS9, its a waste of time and money!
$90 faster? Probably not. But it is more than $90 more flexible than OS X's burning ability. Just the other day I was able to burn a hybrid disc that had some CD audio and some JPEGs of a family reunion I went to. And the majority of the people were PC users and so far no one has had any trouble playing the CD or viewing the pics. Good luck doing that with Finder burning.

And once the burn starts you can go do whatever you want. I haven't had a bad burn yet by doing other things during the burn.
     
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Jul 7, 2003, 02:06 PM
 
Originally posted by solecist:
Because if it overtakes my system like the old toast for OS9, its a waste of time and money!
I was hesitant to get Toast for this very same reason, but thankfully it doesn't do that with OS X.
     
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Jul 7, 2003, 02:08 PM
 
I love toast, it is an awesome app!

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Jul 7, 2003, 02:54 PM
 
I don't know if OS X's Finder can do this natively, but I routinely burn two CDs on the two internal optical drives (dual gig MDD G4).

As a wedding photographer, I am constantly archiving images off to CDs and DVDs. Having the luxury of burning two CDs simultaneously greatly improves my productivity and the less time I spend in front of the computer feeding CDs is more time spent behind the camera.

Just make a copy of the Toast application and fire up both copies. When they are both burning, the CPU utilization is at a very manageable 30-40%, which leaves plenty of horsepower to run Photoshop in the background.

Is the time I save worth $90 ? What do you think ?
     
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Jul 7, 2003, 04:14 PM
 
Originally posted by Ric_D:
Toast will allow you to burn data CD's that are readable on a PC (OS X will not), which I need to do occasionally.
That's no longer true. Burning from the Finder in OS X will burn cross-platform CDs. It will not burn cross-platform data DVDs, though. For that, you'll need Toast.
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Jul 7, 2003, 05:23 PM
 
Toast still cannot burn S-VCDs.
     
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Jul 7, 2003, 10:44 PM
 
Originally posted by ::maroma:::
....the Finder adds an extra step to burning, when you 'copy' the files to the CD, whereas Toast doesn't require that 'copying' of the files.
This is one of my pet hates, and a reason to buy toast in itself. C'mon apple what were you thinking
     
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Jul 7, 2003, 11:40 PM
 
Originally posted by Ric_D:
Toast will allow you to burn data CD's that are readable on a PC (OS X will not)
Yes it does. The finder's default CD format has been standard ISO 9660 for a while now. The last version that was not was 10.2.0.
     
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Jul 7, 2003, 11:58 PM
 
Originally posted by opsotta:
Toast still cannot burn S-VCDs.
Sure it will, just save what you're working on into CD-ROM XA format images.
     
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Jul 8, 2003, 01:36 AM
 
What about for Data backup to DVD? is Toast a good product? or should I look at something like Retrospect?
     
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Jul 8, 2003, 02:48 AM
 
Q and coolmacdude are right,
i been burning data cds in the finder for a while, fast too, and my windows pc can read it w/o any trouble
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Jul 8, 2003, 06:41 AM
 
Toast will also allow you to burn DVD video disks from component files on your hard disk. Something I could not do using the finder.

It runs perfectly in the background. It also allows burning a session rather than a full disk much more easily than the Finder.
     
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Jul 8, 2003, 06:49 AM
 
Toast can "overburn"
Although I don't have Toast I can see the need of Toast just with "overburn"
     
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Jul 8, 2003, 07:35 AM
 
Originally posted by blackbird_1.0:
Q and coolmacdude are right,
i been burning data cds in the finder for a while, fast too, and my windows pc can read it w/o any trouble
I just burnt from iPhoto (OSX 10.6) on my iBook and I can read the disc in Win XP no problems.
     
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Jul 8, 2003, 10:24 AM
 
For me I use it mainly to burn Audio CDs with CDTEXT and PC compatible disks.
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Jul 8, 2003, 03:28 PM
 
Originally posted by Webscreamer:
For me I use it mainly to burn Audio CDs with CDTEXT and PC compatible disks.
I didn't realize Toast can do CD Text. Does iTunes support CD Text? Do any Mac applications?
     
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Jul 8, 2003, 03:59 PM
 
CD-TEXT make toast worth it for me.
Just drag songs from iTunes to Toast and click burn.

Its one of my pet peeves that iTunes uses metadata extensively... and then throws the info away when burning to CD.
     
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Jul 8, 2003, 08:53 PM
 
Toast is required to burn Quicktime video to CD. If I'm not mistaken, the Finder cannot do this.
     
   
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