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dcmacdaddy
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Nov 27, 2005, 07:51 PM
 
<For the full article, go here.>
Secret Flying Saucer Base Found in New Mexico?

Maybe. From the state that gave us Roswell, the epicenter of UFO lore since 1947, comes a report from an Albuquerque TV station about its discovery of strange landscape markings in the remote desert. They're etched in New Mexico's barren northern reaches, resemble crop circles and are recognizable only from a high altitude.

Also, they are directly connected to the Church of Scientology.

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Former Scientologists familiar with Hubbard's teachings on reincarnation say the symbol marks a "return point" so loyal staff members know where they can find the founder's works when they travel here in the future from other places in the universe.

"As a lifetime staff member, you sign a billion-year contract. It's not just symbolic," said Bruce Hines of Denver, who spent 30 years in Scientology but is now critical of it. "You know you are coming back and you will defend the movement no matter what. . . . The fact that they would etch this into the desert to be seen from space, it fits into the whole ideology."

Recall if you will that Scientology traces most of mankind's woes to an evil alien lord named Xenu, a galactic holocaust perpetrated 75 million years ago, and, uh, the field of psychiatry. (The latter is a particular concern, as all of America now knows, of movie star Tom Cruise.)

The church maintains two other vaults in California to preserve Hubbard's materials and words, according to Hines and another longtime staff member who also quit a couple of years ago, Chuck Beatty of Pittsburgh.

"The whole purpose of putting these teachings in the underground vaults was expressly so that in the event that everything gets wiped out somehow, someone would be willing to locate them and they would still be there," said Beatty, who spent 28 years in Scientology. Some loyalists are tasked specifically with the "super-duper confidential" job of coming back to Earth in the far-off future, he added.

The billion-year contracts are signed by members of what Hubbard, a Navy lieutenant in World War II, called the church's Sea Organization. The motto of that cadre, according to Beatty and Hines, who said they were both members, is "We come back."

The New Mexico site is about a 2 1/2 -hour drive east of Santa Fe, near the small town of Trementina. The contents of the vault itself are not secret -- they were shown in 1998 on ABC News's "20/20."

"Buried deep in these New Mexico hills in steel-lined tunnels, said to be able to survive a nuclear blast, is what Scientology considers the future of mankind," ABC's Tom Jarriel said in his report. "Seen here for the first time, thousands of metal records, stored in heat-resistant titanium boxes and playable on a solar-powered turntable, all containing the beliefs of Scientology's founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

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Nov 27, 2005, 08:46 PM
 
That airport is listed as an abandoned military airstrip on my charts.
I'm thinking it was shutdown in the 60's or 70's.
     
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Nov 27, 2005, 09:14 PM
 
Eh, its been done before by far more interesting civilizations and religions.
     
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Nov 27, 2005, 09:38 PM
 
"metal records, stored in heat-resistant titanium boxes and playable on a solar-powered turntable"

Its creepy how well thought-out that thing is.
     
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Nov 27, 2005, 10:18 PM
 
boooorrriiiiiinnnnng
     
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Nov 27, 2005, 10:29 PM
 
Sounds good to me:

     
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Nov 27, 2005, 10:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar
"metal records, stored in heat-resistant titanium boxes and playable on a solar-powered turntable"

Its creepy how well thought-out that thing is.
Yeah, tell me about it. It's almost like they know something we don't and they're planning for it to happen.

Where's John Connor when you need him?
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Nov 27, 2005, 10:47 PM
 
Good lord... I PRAY we don't blow ourselves up ONLY to have aliens come and find their crap... and assume everyone believed their nonsense.
     
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Originally Posted by production_coordinator
Good lord... I PRAY we don't blow ourselves up ONLY to have aliens come and find their crap... and assume everyone believed their nonsense.
Makes you wonder how much of what we think we know about our history is actually only the work of the nutjobs, don't it?
     
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Aug 8, 2007, 07:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
That airport is listed as an abandoned military airstrip on my charts.
I'm thinking it was shutdown in the 60's or 70's.
Dear Sky Captain,

Very interesting.

Where can I get copies of the charts you are referring to?

Sincerely,

Os
     
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Them Sociologists are among the most dramatic folks around. Yes. Yes they are.
     
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No sh!t. IBL.

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Aug 8, 2007, 08:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy View Post
More Scientology Wackiness They Tried to Suppress in the Media
This ran in the Washington Post...two years ago! Hardly suppression...more likely nobody gave a crap
     
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Originally Posted by keekeeree View Post
This ran in the Washington Post...two years ago! Hardly suppression...more likely nobody gave a crap
This thread is also two years old.
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Aug 8, 2007, 09:33 PM
 
i find the fact that i saw a scientology ad before bourne ultimatum at the grove in la far more disturbing and weird.
NOW YOU SEE ME! 2.4 MBP and 2.0 MBP (running ubuntu)
     
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Aug 9, 2007, 12:50 AM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
This thread is also two years old.


Oops...
     
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Aug 9, 2007, 01:01 AM
 
Sociologists are the only religious institution that influences the media, public and government those evil bastards.

Plus they believe silly things like beings from another planet created us and don't believe the more undeniable truth that God created the earth in a week, made man out of dirt and woman out of dirt mans rib.
     
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Any Scientologists on NN?
     
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