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The Dual 2GHz G5 -- Announced By Apple
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Peder Rice
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Jun 19, 2003, 11:47 PM
 
http://www.macrumors.com/

Apple actually leaked the info.

Up to dual 2GHz G5s.

EDIT: Go to the Apple Store, click on the PowerMacs, and check the specs.

Scott edit: Here's the image for the lazy of us
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Jun 19, 2003, 11:52 PM
 
I can't believe it, still can't.

http://eden2.com/step1bullet1powermac.gif

This is from Apple store page for the powermacs. Apple's! It's up right now, go look!!
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Jun 19, 2003, 11:58 PM
 
I'll verify it, I've seen it too!!! unbelievable!!
     
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Jun 19, 2003, 11:58 PM
 
So who thinks this is Steve's sense of humor?
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Jun 19, 2003, 11:58 PM
 
So much for keeping it hush hush...Someone's getting the pick slip in the IT department...

I wonder where the pics of the machine are?

Dual 64-bit 2GHz machines...mmm...gotta love it...

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Jun 19, 2003, 11:58 PM
 
Oh, it's gone! Apple's updating! NO!!!!!
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:02 AM
 
I'm goddamn buyin' one.

I downloaded the page before it dissapeared. Here is the page from the store. I downloaded it before it disappeared.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:05 AM
 
LOL!!

They just took the store down...

Oops!!!

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Jun 20, 2003, 12:08 AM
 
Holy...holy...


holy fcuk.

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Jun 20, 2003, 12:09 AM
 
this is quite interesting turn of events. now when i try to go to the apple store, its says they are updating the store, to come back in 1 hour. wft!? can it be true? i guess we'll have to wait until monday
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:10 AM
 
Originally posted by JLFanboy:
Holy...holy...


holy fcuk.

HOLY FCUK!!!!!!!
I love that store. FCUK, that is.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:10 AM
 
Thanks for saving the page. If it's true, I hope the prices are low enough to make me forget about any more upgrades to my platinum G3.

(edit: took out the stuff that wasn't relevant after I bothered to read all of the updated page. Sorry about that folks.)
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:11 AM
 
Originally posted by terrancew_hod:
So much for keeping it hush hush...Someone's getting the pick slip in the IT department...
Heh, when Jobs finds out, they'll be lucky to escape with all limbs attached!

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Jun 20, 2003, 12:14 AM
 
Hi!

Man, it seems this time they got it all right, CPU speed, bus speed, AGP speed, ATA speed, PCI-X, optical in/out, all up to date technology. I wonder what the prices will be (and the cases), personally, I expect them to rise a bit, probably around those of the previous generation.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:15 AM
 
Originally posted by Dr. Wahnsinn:
Thanks for saving the page.

Did anyone notice that the info on the top of the page states "G5", but the info for each machine states G4"?
Because the only screwup was the GIF of the general specs was displayed.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:16 AM
 
I guess since the for the specs is separate from the rest of the page, I guess the web designer uploaded the wrong pic in it's place...
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:19 AM
 
And it's now back to saying G4, with the specs of the current MDD.

:shock:

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Jun 20, 2003, 12:28 AM
 
Heads will roll.

Dual 2GHz right away...anyone who complains about that...
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:33 AM
 
bring. it. ON.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:34 AM
 
What if the site was hacked? That would also explain the store's closure. I could see a hacker waiting till now to bite into apple's servers and upload his own created graphic to stir up a frenzy. I hope it wasn't, because if the real specs are anything different, then there are already going to be a lot of disappointed people. Plus, I really want one of those kick-a$$ machines!
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:35 AM
 
Well, you have to be pretty damn good to hack a site. You have to be even better to hack a store that grabs personal data and credit cards. That means you go to jail when you hack. Why risk going to jail for hacking a site when there's 1) no political statement, 2) no monetary gains and 3) so deep and hard to find and such a small detail?

No hack. It's either accidental or purposeful mistake.
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:37 AM
 
A: You know that someone just got fired. No question. FIRED.

B: SERIAL ATA!! Apple leads again. At least the first major PC maker to push serial ATA Hard.

C: OPTICAL OUT! Finally.

D: PCI-X Great, but where are the cards?

E: 8X AGP, nice to see we back up with the PC guys...
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:52 AM
 
Originally posted by KidRed:
Well, you have to be pretty damn good to hack a site. You have to be even better to hack a store that grabs personal data and credit cards.
Actually, if it was a hack, it was a hack to get Akamai to cache a faked image. Very likely nothing on the apple store would actually need to be touched at all. No access to personal data or credit cards necessary.

Why risk going to jail for hacking a site when there's 1) no political statement, 2) no monetary gains and 3) so deep and hard to find and such a small detail?
These are very good points. It was very understated and out of character if it was a hack.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 12:52 AM
 
Originally posted by The Jackalope:
I'm goddamn buyin' one.

I downloaded the page before it dissapeared. Here is the page from the store. I downloaded it before it disappeared.

Because it was a bad image linking and you didn't download the gif you page is just like the apple page after the fix.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:05 AM
 
The prophecies have been fulfilled.

The time of retribution is at hand.

Or something like that.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:09 AM
 
Imagine the phone call to Steve....
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:11 AM
 
Sheesh. So much better than I expected. It is a shame that I am leaving for Chicago on a missions trip Saturday and won't get to see the results until next Friday night. Oh why isn't my trip a week later? Heh.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:12 AM
 
Scott: Hi, I'm calling about the Powermac G5
Apple lady: We don't comment on unreleased products
Scott: But I just saw it on your website before I called
Apple lady: I'm on our website now, it's not there
Scott: Oh, ok
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:16 AM
 
Originally posted by Scotttheking:
Scott: Hi, I'm calling about the Powermac G5
Apple lady: We don't comment on unreleased products
Scott: But I just saw it on your website before I called
Apple lady: I'm on our website now, it's not there
Scott: Oh, ok
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:17 AM
 
Originally posted by gregomni:
Actually, if it was a hack, it was a hack to get Akamai to cache a faked image. Very likely nothing on the apple store would actually need to be touched at all. No access to personal data or credit cards necessary.


These are very good points. It was very understated and out of character if it was a hack.

It's not a hack, and if it was they hacked apple's servers. When it was up you could delete the akamai part and it would come straight off store.apple.com

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Jun 20, 2003, 01:22 AM
 
8 GB of DDR SDRAM...8 GB! Hello! AGP 8X, USB 2, FireWire 800 & 400, Bluetooth, 802.11G, Dual 2 GHZ (64bit 970). If these specs are true and the prices stay about the same as they are now, these PowerMacs will blow any PC out the water. I might just have to sell a kidney on the black market to pick one of these up.
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:23 AM
 
I really hope the pricing scheme is semi-affordable. I want that Dual 2Ghz.

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Jun 20, 2003, 01:24 AM
 
now we only have 2 things to look forward to:

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2. panther preview

unless jobs pulls a, "oh, and one more thing..."

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Jun 20, 2003, 01:25 AM
 
Let's just hope this product doesn't fall under the "Rev. A" curse.....

Is PCI-X supposed to be backwards compatable? And for that matter, are any PCI-X cards avail or known to be in development?
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:45 AM
 
Originally posted by CIA:
Let's just hope this product doesn't fall under the "Rev. A" curse.....

Is PCI-X supposed to be backwards compatable? And for that matter, are any PCI-X cards avail or known to be in development?
The next generation of nVidia and ATI graphics cards will have PCI-X options. Although this tech isn't coming out for quite a while in PC land, and the cards even longer. I'm still sceptical even though Apple themselves have showed me.
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 01:47 AM
 
I just wish I could find a job, so I can buy one.
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Originally posted by dazzla:
The next generation of nVidia and ATI graphics cards will have PCI-X options. Although this tech isn't coming out for quite a while in PC land, and the cards even longer. I'm still sceptical even though Apple themselves have showed me.
High end intel based dual xeon systems usually have 1 or 2 PCI-X slots
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Originally posted by dazzla:
The next generation of nVidia and ATI graphics cards will have PCI-X options. Although this tech isn't coming out for quite a while in PC land, and the cards even longer. I'm still sceptical even though Apple themselves have showed me.
Wrong! That's PCI Express you're thinking of, which is coming late this year to the PC.
PCI-X, is an older evolution of PCI and is used for gigabit ethernet cards and the like.

You'll never see PCI-X graphics cards, AGP is already MUCH faster. PCI Express however is perfect for graphics cards.
     
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Originally posted by CIA:
D: PCI-X Great, but where are the cards?
FOUR channel FW800 PCI-X card

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pci-x is backwards compatible for slower pci cards (I think, however, that once you plug a slower pci card into a pci-x bus, the whole bus slows down, killing any additional performance gain you may have had.) The are some other compatibility problems. PCI-X and PCI-66 have 3.3 Volts available for card power, whereas pci-33 (the original pci bus) had 5 volts. The obvious problem being that older cards might not get enough power. I believe devices which currently exist for this standard are things like fibre controllers and gigabit ethernet cards for high-bandwidth networking applications and fast disk controllers for serial ata and scsi devices.

Industry is moving towards this standard - it's already available on high-end server hardware, but it's working its way down to consumer machines.

I think it's awesome apple is pushing this technology - such and improvement over pci-66. Now let's see if they end up supporting pci express...

Now - I have a question: what does audio optical output get you?

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MacRumors has pulled down that screen shot.

Now - I have a question: what does audio optical output get you?

For one thing it gives you more options when doing audio editing for DVD's. It's nice to hear the 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 audio you are mastering before it gets on a disc.
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Jun 20, 2003, 02:08 AM
 
I don't see how this could really be a hoax.

They couldn't have been hacked. It's never happened before.

That only leaves for a crazy employee that put this up as a joke then got the axe.
If that was the case, then fine. But it seems so unlikely.

It couldn't have been a sanctioned joke. They can't possibly expect to walk in on Monday and be like "well, see, we were lying..." that's retarded.

The only other possibility is that it was a mistake, and the specs are indeed true.

Frankly I'm hoping they're freakin' true!
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 02:15 AM
 
Whether it's a mistake or a hack of some kind, I still find it hard to believe it happened at all. The only mileage Apple would gain by doing it intentionally, is to feed the rumour mills one set of specs, and then come out with something even better which seems even more unlikely.

Frankly, I wasn't even expecting them to hit 2GHz this rev, so these specs are better than I was expecting. I do hope it's true
     
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Jun 20, 2003, 02:22 AM
 
Originally posted by retroneo:
Wrong! That's PCI Express you're thinking of, which is coming late this year to the PC.
PCI-X, is an older evolution of PCI and is used for gigabit ethernet cards and the like.

You'll never see PCI-X graphics cards, AGP is already MUCH faster. PCI Express however is perfect for graphics cards.
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Jun 20, 2003, 02:25 AM
 
The first thing I thought was hacking too. You think Apple is editing their production website on Thursday night? I vote for a hack job...
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Jun 20, 2003, 02:29 AM
 
Imagine how disappointed Apple fans will be if Apple releases no new hardware period at the WWDC. Or if they release speed-bumped G4 towers.

Hahahahaha.
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