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Things are already UGLY! Markets +270! ugh!!! The markets are reacting to a HUSSEIN victory (as some have suggested) so sad

OH NO +280 now! doomed, DOOMED I SAY!!!
     
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Originally Posted by zerostar View Post
Things are already UGLY! Markets +270! ugh!!! The markets are reacting to a HUSSEIN victory (as some have suggested) so sad

OH NO +280 now! doomed, DOOMED I SAY!!!
Heh. Today's graph for the dollar:sterling is making me happy.
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What is ?
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Well I don't buy any of this conspiracy crap either but before you laugh too hard remember that one of the insidious things about some of the worst leaders we have known is that you don't always see them coming.
I don't know. I think it's worse when you can see it coming (GW Bush) and can't stop it.
     
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Nov 4, 2008, 01:50 PM
 
I heard that Obama's secret plan if he becomes president is to sell the U.S. out to the Iranians for....






....one million dollars.

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I heard that Obama's secret plan if he becomes president is to sell the U.S. out to the Iranians for....
Isn't that what Reagan did? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_contra


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Nov 4, 2008, 10:31 PM
 
Geez, if Florida goes Obama's way, he's got 274 (with California, Oregon and Washington pushing him over the edge later tonight) even if all the other uncalled states go to McCain. But that race is tight as anything.
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Nov 4, 2008, 10:39 PM
 
Ohio is getting called for Obama all over the place. Fox, CNN, ABC.... If that holds, that puts him near 200 on everyone's lists, and California, Oregon, and Washington pushing him over 270 even without Florida.
     
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Nov 4, 2008, 10:45 PM
 
Yup, I called it.

Congratulations guys, it was the best election that money could buy.
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Originally Posted by Dork. View Post
Ohio is getting called for Obama all over the place. Fox, CNN, ABC.... If that holds, that puts him near 200 on everyone's lists, and California, Oregon, and Washington pushing him over 270 even without Florida.
I think Ohio puts him at 194. If Obama got Ohio, California, Oregon and Washington and McCain took all the rest of the contested states, McCain would win.
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Nov 4, 2008, 10:56 PM
 
Obama just pulled ahead slightly in VA with 81% of precincts reporting.
     
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WTF? CNN is calling New Mexico for Obama even though he only has 1/3 of the vote in current returns. Am I missing something?
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WTF? CNN is calling New Mexico for Obama even though he only has 1/3 of the vote in current returns. Am I missing something?
They're taking into account exit polls, even though they make not explicitly state it.
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Nov 4, 2008, 11:00 PM
 
at this point, 9:58 pm eastern

all Obama needs to win is WA, OR and CA....even if McCain wins all the rest of the states including texas florida and hawaii
     
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Nov 4, 2008, 11:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
I think Ohio puts him at 194. If Obama got Ohio, California, Oregon and Washington and McCain took all the rest of the contested states, McCain would win.
Some of those guys have New Mexico in the list, others don't. Add New Mexico and Obama is a lock. Alternatively, add Hawaii instead of New Mexico. In any case, in order for McCain to win, I think some projections will need to change.
     
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Originally Posted by Dork. View Post
Some of those guys have New Mexico in the list, others don't. Add New Mexico and Obama is a lock. Alternatively, add Hawaii instead of New Mexico. In any case, in order for McCain to win, I think some projections will need to change.
Which is not out of the realm of possibility but I think at least CNN is being more conservative before they project a winner.
     
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Nov 4, 2008, 11:46 PM
 
Fox News just called Virginia for Obama.
     
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Originally Posted by Dork. View Post
Fox News just called Virginia for Obama.
And Florida won't be far behind. Looks like Obama might just take Indiana too.
     
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Its official, now: the Daily Show has called Virginia for Obama as well!
     
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Nov 4, 2008, 11:58 PM
 
I wonder what bush is thinking/feeling...he made it happen
     
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Originally Posted by ironknee View Post
I wonder what bush is thinking/feeling...he made it happen
Like Clinton in 2000?
     
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Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE View Post
Like Clinton in 2000?
The results thus far seem to indicate otherwise.
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Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE View Post
Like Clinton in 2000?
Gore barely lost, and he was a much weaker candidate than Clinton. If Clinton had been the Democratic candidate, he would have won. So I doubt Clinton felt any responsibility. McCain appears to have lost by a landslide, and part of that is people's perception that he agrees with our horribly unpopular President too much.
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Nov 5, 2008, 04:46 AM
 
Plus, there was this big Florida controversy, so it wasn't even clear who had won (until the courts decided not to recount the votes). In this election, McCain lost by a landslide (although we have to keep in mind that the number of electoral votes is no indication of the difference in popular vote).

BTW, I thought McCain's speech conceding the election was very good.
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Yup, I called it.

Congratulations guys, it was the best election that money could buy.
Better to buy with advertising, than buying voting machines.
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Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Better to buy with advertising, than buying voting machines.
Who said it was bought with just advertising? Lots of hands were greased to win this one, but it's the same in every election. I can't fault Obama for that, it's the nature of the beast.
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You do know that the weather becoming colder and colder does not refute the theory of climate change? Just checking...
Lol

Of course, Climate Change is impossible! I would not know that if it wasn't for geniuses like you. Now how about this catastrophic global warming thing???
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Welcome to CC America!!

CC, the initials they have been subconsciously drilling into your softheads for a while now.

Carbon Credits
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Communism and Comradeship!

I'm going to enjoy the next four years soo much hahahaha
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Welcome to CC America!!

CC, the initials they have been subconsciously drilling into your softheads for a while now.

Carbon Credits
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I'm going to enjoy the next four years soo much hahahaha
And hey, isn't President Barry just a carbon copy of President Blair?

Different host, same goa'uld.
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And hey, isn't President Barry just a carbon copy of President Blair?

Different host, same goa'uld.
lol, there have been a number of Blair clones around the world in the last few years.
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Of course, Climate Change is impossible! I would not know that if it wasn't for geniuses like you. Now how about this catastrophic global warming thing???
For those who are convinced that climate change is happening, it hasn't been called Global Warming for quite some time. It's become apparent to them that climate change will raise temperatures in some places while dropping them in others.
     
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For those who are convinced that climate change is happening, it hasn't been called Global Warming for quite some time. It's become apparent to them that climate change will raise temperatures in some places while dropping them in others.
Obviously global warming and cooling both has its winners and losers. What the elites are doing is simply taxing what is happening naturally to enrich themselves. I don't need to say that.
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Originally Posted by zerostar View Post
Things are already UGLY! Markets +270! ugh!!! The markets are reacting to a HUSSEIN victory (as some have suggested) so sad

OH NO +280 now! doomed, DOOMED I SAY!!!
And here's the day after: -486



The World may love Barry, but Wall Street don't.
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
And here's the day after: -486



The World may love Barry, but Wall Street don't.
Yeah, I think that has more to do with:

a report showed that the nation’s service sector contracted in October, falling at the fastest pace since records began in 1997
and

All eyes are on Friday’s employment report from the Labor Department, which economists expect will show that 200,000 jobs were lost last month. A separate report released on Wednesday by Automatic Data Processing, a private group, showed that private companies cut an estimated 157,000 jobs in October, the most in almost six years.
and

Layoffs spread from automakers, financial and housing-related companies to retailers and other services as the downturn deepened.
and

Several earnings reports also offered disappointing assessments of the economy. GMAC, the finance company partly owned by General Motors, said that it lost $2.52 billion in the third quarter and that its mortgage unit, ResCap, was struggling to survive. Time Warner reported a higher-than-expected profit for the third quarter, but lowered its outlook. Two bond insurers, MBIA and Ambac Financial, posted wider losses. MBIA lost $806.5 million after setting aside $961 million for guarantees on bonds. Its shares were down almost 19 percent. Ambac had a $2.43 billion loss and put aside $3.1 billion. Its shares dropped 35 percent.
In other words:

“We’re facing one of the worst global economic slowdowns we’ve ever seen; that’s not political.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/bu...l?ref=business

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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
And here's the day after: -486



The World may love Barry, but Wall Street don't.
That would have happened today no matter who won last night.
     
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Our country is in the shitter no matter who got elected. Of course it will be blamed on Carter and Clinton, then we'll lose 8 years to amnesia and start blaming Obama for the mess.

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No chaps. There's nothing stopping Barry's financial plans (e.g. this) now, so folks are heading for the hills.
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I would just like to point out that as our Bush friends said with Bush, now that Obama is our President it is our patriotic duty to support him. Criticizing him only emboldens the terrorists.

I hope everyone will watch themselves appropriately.

(Boy, Christmas sure did come early this year...)
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I would just like to point out that as our Bush friends said with Bush, now that Obama is our President it is our patriotic duty to support him.
He's not my president.
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He's not my president.
Ah, a foreign agent, you should be banned from all discussion.

(Seriously, who was that who was angry about the "foreign agents" a while ago?)
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He's not my president.
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
No chaps. There's nothing stopping Barry's financial plans (e.g. this) now, so folks are heading for the hills.
Not necessarily. There will be no filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and many people currently in Congress remember what happened the last time a Democratic-controlled White House and Congress tried to ram their agenda through... they got there arses handed to them two years later. I think many are going to want to preserve what they've got, so they won't be making many of the big mistakes made before. At least they won't be making the same mistakes again. Plenty of potential to make new ones though.

No, the truly controversial stuff is going to require bipartisanship to pass (even if only to avoid a filibuster), which means compromise, which means nobody gets everything they want.

Politics is still politics though, and much of what Obama said during his campaign may have been the same as George Bush, Sr's (aka Daddy Bush) assertion of, "Read my lips, no new taxes" during his campaign, and in the end had to compromise on that after being elected. It will be no different for Obama, I suspect.

I think your statement would have been more true had the Senate truly achieved the filibuster proof majority.

Still too early to tell, though.
     
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That's because you're a subject of the crown.
Nahh. I'm a sovereign individual.
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Nahh. I'm a sovereign individual.
From what I have seen you are a professional poster and complainer. You don't agree with my views but I have the sunburn and now scars to show the change I made locally. What have you done? Off the 'NN that is....
     
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The Communists figured out with the fall of Soviet Communism that they would never be able to destroy the West and particularly America economically because of the inherent inadequacy of their economic model. They decided that in order to have a chance at destroying us, they would have to undermine our institutions. They would have to take over the media and education, and eventually they would be able to take progressively greater political power. BHO looks like their best chance yet to move their evil agenda forward. Tomorrow we get to find out if the American people are gullible and greedy enough to elect him.
It is just a slight bit disconcerting that people, or any person, believes that comic-book-evil is running around the world.

Commies? Really? But what about the Islamo-fascists? Aren't they gonna take over? Or is this a Godzilla type thing where Mothra is going to fight Rhodan?
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It is just a slight bit disconcerting that people, or any person, believes that comic-book-evil is running around the world.

Commies? Really? But what about the Islamo-fascists? Aren't they gonna take over? Or is this a Godzilla type thing where Mothra is going to fight Rhodan?
It's the quintessential "good versus evil" dogma.

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I have to answer to the Queen too, since I'm a Canadian citizen,

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You don't agree with my views but I have the sunburn and now scars to show the change I made locally.
Well bully for you! Aren't you a clever boy!
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