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Liudger · Mar 6, 2003, 08:34 PM

This version has the feature to load multiple pages in multiple tabs like Camino. But it's cooler

You can actually see when a page is loaded.
Also it supports auto-complete in 2 ways.
One way it's uses address book (yes)
And the other way is as in v62 using history.
You can chose between them or use them both.
Also it's faster than the bugy and slow build v62

I hope they will release it soon

gorickey · Mar 6, 2003, 08:37 PM

Go ahead and upload that at 4OSX.com....

Much appreciated.

iDriveX · Mar 6, 2003, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Liudger:
This version has the feature to load multiple pages in multiple tabs like Camino. But it's cooler
You can actually see when a page is loaded.
Also it supports auto-complete in 2 ways.
One way it's uses address book (yes)
And the other way is as in v62 using history.
You can chose between them or use them both.
Also it's faster than the bugy and slow build v62

I hope they will release it soon

Just recieved this copy as well. I do like the little progress circle in the tabs to show you when the tab is completely loaded. I also like how when you CMD+Click on a link, it loads the page in a tab without automatically TAKING you to the tab (great for porn

) But I am still having that problem where certain web pages (no pattern I can establish yet) render itself with like a font size of 100 or so. I bet when they get all the bugs out of this version of Safari this will be the 1.0

libraryguy · Mar 6, 2003, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Liudger:
This version has the feature to load multiple pages in multiple tabs like Camino. But it's cooler
You can actually see when a page is loaded.
Also it supports auto-complete in 2 ways.
One way it's uses address book (yes)
And the other way is as in v62 using history.
You can chose between them or use them both.
Also it's faster than the bugy and slow build v62

I hope they will release it soon

Can't wait 'till they release the next beta so I can try it out!! Good to see Apple using the system wide address book once again. I love that the webpages I have listed for people automatially show up in Safari. I also love iChat's integration with it. I'm excited about tabs too...never used them since I always used IE. I did download v62 from limewire...just to mess with them for a sec...they seem great. I deleted it after though...figured I'd wait for apple to release it before using it full time.

On a side note...I wish they'd link iCal to Address Book...for birthdays. I use a program to do it now...but it should be part of iCal.

libraryguy · Mar 6, 2003, 08:45 PM

But I am still having that problem where certain web pages (no pattern I can establish yet) render itself with like a font size of 100 or so. I bet when they get all the bugs out of this version of Safari this will be the 1.0 [/B]

I had never experienced that problem until the other day (I'm using v.60) I can't remember what website it was. I wondered if it was a problem with Safari or the website...guess I know now. I didn't know that this problem existed at all except for my experience.

kman42 · Mar 6, 2003, 09:20 PM

How about a screenshot of these nifty little circles?

kman

thePurpleGiant · Mar 6, 2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by libraryguy:
On a side note...I wish they'd link iCal to Address Book...for birthdays. I use a program to do it now...but it should be part of iCal.

Yes! Me too, I have missed so many birthdays since switching from Paqlm Desktop that it's not funny.

What software did you use to get around this/?

MacGorilla · Mar 6, 2003, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Go ahead and upload that at 4OSX.com....

Much appreciated.

Yes, please do!

JB72 · Mar 6, 2003, 10:01 PM

lso it supports auto-complete in 2 ways.
One way it's uses address book (yes)
And the other way is as in v62 using history.
You can chose between them or use them both.

Good work Apple fellas!

Do windows positions behave any better beyong v60?

mdc · Mar 6, 2003, 10:21 PM

do you still have to enable tabs via the debug menu or are tabs in the preferences now?

are you allowed to upload any screenshots?

KidRed · Mar 6, 2003, 11:05 PM

Wow, someone loves violating their NDA. Oh, and you can't 'load' multiple pages at a time.

gorickey · Mar 6, 2003, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by KidRed:
Wow, someone loves violating their NDA. Oh, and you can't 'load' multiple pages at a time.

Huh? Yes, you can.

Liquidity X · Mar 6, 2003, 11:24 PM

yah dude, I have it, show me how the hell to load multipages in 1 tab.

gorickey · Mar 6, 2003, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
yah dude, I have it, show me how the hell to load multipages in 1 tab.

Multiple pages in 1 tab? No, you can't do that.

However, you can "Open in Tabs" any multiple pages you have in a folder within in your Bookmark Toolbar favorites by pulling down the menu.

gorickey · Mar 6, 2003, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
Yes, please do!

Oddly enough, somebody did!

You friends over at 4OSX.com now have v64 available for download*.

*must be a member.

http://www.4osx.com

(I have NO affiliation)

gregpins · Mar 7, 2003, 12:00 AM

It is really nice. Love the "Open in Tabs" thing.

Faster than Camino, switches tabs faster, pulls menus faster, generally snappier (said without irony), love the google bar. I've been a big Chimera/Camino fan, but Safari is now my browser. (Camino is now very unstable on my system, can't figure out why and haven't been able to fix).

One little feature of Camino I really love and would love to see in Safari -- the "Send Link" button. Very handy, I probably use it 10 times a day to send articles and things to people.

If any of the Chimera developers are on the board, thank you so much for all that you have done -- and please keep at it. You have done a great job, and the competition is so important for the health of the platform.

poocat · Mar 7, 2003, 12:18 AM

wow.

pretty slick.
i like how they're just building like mad.
excellent.

and you're right!
chimera/camino, you guys are pushing everyone. don't give up and don't forget it!

i just switched to safari, but for a while there it was a toss-up, and safari only won because of it's better handling of long text boxes, which the camino kids aren't in control of anyway.

rock on.
poocat.

pliny · Mar 7, 2003, 12:18 AM

(blow armchair mod whistle)

This should be in the software forum with the the other v64 threads.

(/blow armchair mod whistle)

My friend's waiter said this version was buggier than the prior version.

Thinine · Mar 7, 2003, 12:27 AM

I downloaded it and all I get is an unexpectedly quit error. Huh.

iMike_4OSX · 12:43 AM

Originally posted by pliny:
(blow armchair mod whistle)

This should be in the software forum with the the other v64 threads.

(/blow armchair mod whistle)

My friend's waiter said this version was buggier than the prior version.

Heh, the "Official" one has the download link in the first post, called "Safari v64 free download at 4OSX.com"

And as for stability, I find it more stable than v62 and v60.

Don Pickett · Mar 7, 2003, 12:48 AM

I don't want to register at 4OSX just to get v64. Anyone got a mirror?

iMike_4OSX · Mar 7, 2003, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by Don Pickett:
I don't want to register at 4OSX just to get v64. Anyone got a mirror?

We don't want you to register at 4 OS X just to get v64, either. We could use the database space for someone who cares.

(Sorry, I just hate leechers

)

Don Pickett · Mar 7, 2003, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by iMike_4OSX:
We don't want you to register at 4 OS X just to get v64, either. We could use the database space for someone who cares.

(Sorry, I just hate leechers )

It's not that I don't care, dude, but I have limited time and am already involved in several forums.

RMXO · Mar 7, 2003, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by Don Pickett:
Failed to mount: error -39. No such file file or directory.

its uploading as we speak my upload is capped. try it now....

Don Pickett · Mar 7, 2003, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by RMXO:
its uploading as we speak my upload is capped. try it now....

The requested URL /sonny/misc/files/safari-v64.dmg was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request

KidRed · Mar 7, 2003, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Huh? Yes, you can.

Ah, I stand corrected

I really wish we'd get releases notes, lol

Don Pickett · Mar 7, 2003, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by RMXO:
its uploading as we speak my upload is capped. try it now....

Got it. You rock.

gorgonzola · Mar 7, 2003, 01:31 AM

Posting download links to prerelease copies of Safari is not appropriate. As always, you're free to talk about them, but we draw the line when it comes to assisting software piracy.

Safari is a freeware application, but the policy nevertheless applies to unreleased software. Apple will release it for public consumption when they want to release it.

RMXO · Mar 7, 2003, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
Posting download links to prerelease copies of Safari is not appropriate. As always, you're free to talk about them, but we draw the line when it comes to assisting software piracy.

Safari is a freeware application, but the policy nevertheless applies to unreleased software. Apple will release it for public consumption when they want to release it.

im sorry.....

iMike_4OSX · Mar 7, 2003, 01:44 AM

Didn't know that was your policy. But in all respect, I don't see this as piracy. Safari is freeware and is licensed to be freely distributed. Not only that, but half of the application is developed under the GPL license.

I do not condone piracy in any way, and if I felt that sharing v64 with the community was piracy, I wouldn't have done it.

keston · Mar 7, 2003, 01:54 AM

The v64 i downloaded from 4osx.com just crashes/quits on launch.

patmcfar8 · Mar 7, 2003, 02:41 AM

Actually, I'm using their download right now and it works just fine. Must say that I really like the tabbed windows. All in all it does seem to be a tad faster. I cannot wait for Safari to go final! I love this browser!

MusicMan · Mar 7, 2003, 02:43 AM

Can you say: Snappier�?

Groovy · Mar 7, 2003, 02:45 AM

I just have to say open in tabs is awesome.

all links in a folder will open in tabs and load. For dial up modem users that is great
since you can read the first page while the others load.

heck even on my 200KBytes/32KBytes cable modem it rocks since i can open
all tabs for my favorites and my main 15 or so sites all start to load and the spinning
sprocket shows what are loading and what are done loading so i can read while the
rest load. Big time saver even for high speed connects.

Auto complete is pulling info from keychain now and it WORKS

Darn the scrolling bug is STILL there.

Socially Awkward Solo · Mar 7, 2003, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by keston:
The v64 i downloaded from 4osx.com just crashes/quits on launch.

Mine is fine.

::maroma:: · Mar 7, 2003, 04:13 AM

Long time listener, first time caller.

Well, under reservation, I downloaded it and used it for a few minutes. In that time I encountered a tab that wouldn't load, and a tab that loaded with the font size huge. I dig the tabs a lot though. I have since deleted it and gone back to v60. I can't wait for the next official release though. Nice work Apple, keep it up!

Socially Awkward Solo · Mar 7, 2003, 04:40 AM

So who thinks tabs will still be hidden in the next official release.

Big Mac · Mar 7, 2003, 05:18 AM

Is the ability to open bookmarks at once in multiple tabs hampered by the lack of multithreading, or have the developers improved on that? Concurrent downloading wouldn't really be very useful if it caused the UI to sputter.

Gul Banana · Mar 7, 2003, 06:47 AM

It doesn't slow down the UI to open 15 tabs at once on a G4/400

JayJay1974 · Mar 7, 2003, 07:10 AM

If you're having trouble with v64 quitting on launch, then you may have PithHelmet installed in ~/Library/InputManagers/ . I had it installed and I tried everything to get v64 to work - D/L it 3 times, repair permissions, holding down shift while logging in to prevent login items from loading. Until I tried it as another user and it worked fine. Then on came the lightbulb, PithHelmet! Took that out and now it works fine. Using v64 right now for this post. Good luck!

kovacs · Mar 7, 2003, 07:45 AM

Open in tabs is great ! I love it

gorickey · Mar 7, 2003, 09:40 AM

v64 sure does some odd stuff to the MacNN board...

Patcarla · Mar 7, 2003, 10:01 AM

v64 is way better than v62. Faster, more stable, more features. Well done. That's it Safari is officially my primary browser..

keston · Mar 7, 2003, 10:34 AM

Also if you are using something like demetalifizer, the background tab strip is now standard aqua instead of the brushed metal. That annoyed me before that if i turned off brushed metal, the back tab strip would still be brushed metal.

iMike_4OSX · Mar 7, 2003, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by keston:
Also if you are using something like demetalifizer, the background tab strip is now standard aqua instead of the brushed metal. That annoyed me before that if i turned off brushed metal, the back tab strip would still be brushed metal.

That's awesome! I'm still a fan of Brushed Metal, though...

pliny · Mar 7, 2003, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Patcarla:
v64 is way better than v62. Faster, more stable, more features.

Wouldn't go that far.

Mrjinglesusa · Mar 7, 2003, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by pliny:
Wouldn't go that far.

I would, except for the speed issue. I don't see it as being any faster than v.62 but it is definately faster than Camino 0.7. v.64 DOES have more features than v.62 and IS more stable.

kman42 · Mar 7, 2003, 02:07 PM

Some Safari bookmark/tab notes:

1) You should be able to option-click on a folder in the bookmarks window to open the enclosed links in tabs similar to the way you can do it from the bookmarks toolbar.

2) WHY DON'T BOOKMARK FOLDERS RETAIN THEIR STATE?! This is so annoying. If I open a folder (daughter folders, not the root ones) in the bookmarks window I want them to stay open when I come back to that root folder. The current implementation has them closing every time.

kman

Peter · Mar 7, 2003, 02:36 PM

Safari v64 doesn't work for me, it just quits on launch. Any ideas?

RevEvs · Mar 7, 2003, 02:44 PM

try the usual trashing of the prefs and see if that works

revs