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Immortal K-Mart Employee · Jun 3, 2002, 01:41 AM

<a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0206/03.office.php" target="_blank">http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0206/03.office.php</a>

KaptainKaya · Jun 3, 2002, 01:51 AM

Interesting..but in order to use the quartz rendering, we need 10.1.5. So hopefully, like you said, its on the way soon. Also, we go from version 2.0 to 3.0 of messenger in a year when it took 2 just to go from 1.0 to 2.0? Interesting! And it has file transfer...now I just need to find the d/l link.

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Jun 3, 2002, 01:54 AM

Ya, I think we have to wait till morn for that download link. The story seems a tad early!

I am disappointed that every app got the ability to customize the toolbar except for entourage, the one app that needs it the most.

Jerommeke · Jun 3, 2002, 02:52 AM

if 10.1.5 is coming soon... uh-oh, there goes my uptime of 36 days already :/

Tominator · Jun 3, 2002, 03:38 AM

By playing with the URL for the old 2.1 version of Messenger, I was able to download 3.0 early.

<a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/msnmessenger/install/3.0/macos/en-us/macmsgs.bin" target="_blank">http://download.microsoft.com/download/msnmessenger/install/3.0/macos/en-us/macmsgs.bin </a>

Edit: Seems that the file was removed. Oh well, it's sure to be back in a few hours.

[ 06-03-2002, 04:13 AM: Message edited by: Tominator ]

juanvaldes · Jun 3, 2002, 05:05 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jerommeke:
if 10.1.5 is coming soon... uh-oh, there goes my uptime of 36 days already :/<hr /></blockquote>Well then, if you have 36 days uptime then we are almost ready for 10.1.5

Those bastards at apple dont' like us to keep our uptime <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Jerommeke · Jun 3, 2002, 05:46 AM

yep

and image it could be higher: this is since i reinstalled my computer, 10.1.4 came out before this

but since 10.1.5 is coming out soon, and some people say there will be no more updates before 10.2, that one will run a long time, although: i hope so

I am gonna laugh at my brother btw today, install MSN 3.0, and from what I read it doesn't run on 9 any longer (also because the dock-controllable thing, will it be cocoa? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> )... (he has got 9 only) and he is a VERY intensive chatter and would like to have file transfer too...

Sophus · Jun 3, 2002, 06:58 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Tominator:
By playing with the URL for the old 2.1 version of Messenger, I was able to download 3.0 early.

<a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/msnmessenger/install/3.0/macos/en-us/macmsgs.bin" target="_blank">http://download.microsoft.com/download/msnmessenger/install/3.0/macos/en-us/macmsgs.bin </a>

Edit: Seems that the file was removed. Oh well, it's sure to be back in a few hours.<hr /></blockquote>The new messenger for mac looks good. Sure is a lot better usability than the version 2.1. Also ability to send a file. Text is nicely antialiased, even though I don't have 10.1.5.

Sophus

Jerommeke · Jun 3, 2002, 07:26 AM

hmm kewl

i'll wait until the release

i am wondering if it sends behind a firewall too :S

jasong · Jun 3, 2002, 07:33 AM

I just DL MS Messenger from the link posted here at 7:32 am EST. So it seems the link is working again. Haven't installed it yet.

-- Jason

gee308 · Jun 3, 2002, 08:36 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jasong:
I just DL MS Messenger from the link posted here at 7:32 am EST. So it seems the link is working again. Haven't installed it yet.

-- Jason<hr /></blockquote>haha, My name is Jason and I'm from Brookline too!!! I'm off of Beacon Street. send me an email sometime.
[email protected]

Simon Mundy · Jun 3, 2002, 09:55 AM

Well... it's 23:55 here downunder and the link seems to be up for the Office SP1!

Get it <a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/OfficeX/Update/1/MacOS/EN-US/OfficeXSR1UpdaterEN.bin" target="_blank">here</a>...

davidflas · Jun 3, 2002, 10:10 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Simon Mundy:
Well... it's 23:55 here downunder and the link seems to be up for the Office SP1!

Get it <a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/OfficeX/Update/1/MacOS/EN-US/OfficeXSR1UpdaterEN.bin" target="_blank">here</a>...<hr /></blockquote>Thanks for the link! I just downloaded it in 3 minutes via my cable modem.

sbjordal · Jun 3, 2002, 10:15 AM

The updater has officially been posted to Microsoft's Macintosh page
<a href="http://www.mactopia.com" target="_blank">Mactopia</a>

or, here's the direct link to the update page
<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mac/DOWNLOAD/OFFICEX/OfficeX_SR1.asp" target="_blank">Office X Updater</a>

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Jun 3, 2002, 10:30 AM

It seems that it kills illegal serial numbers.

BZ · Jun 3, 2002, 10:34 AM

Downloaded. Installed. No problems.

I don't notice much difference but I usually just stick to Excel.

BZ

dark3lf · Jun 3, 2002, 11:11 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
It seems that it kills illegal serial numbers.<hr /></blockquote>How do you know? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

P · Jun 3, 2002, 12:47 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
It seems that it kills illegal serial numbers.<hr /></blockquote>Seems to kill a lot of legal numbers too. I'll wait for a while - until there are hacked serials for 10.1 if this update kills mine...

typoon · Jun 3, 2002, 12:51 PM

MSN messanger 3 can be gotten from Macupdate.com

boots · Jun 3, 2002, 12:51 PM

Updated on my iBook (600 MHz, 10.1.4). The performance increase in Word is incredible. Scrolling is super-fast now! Inline graphics are also displayed faster, and they don't slow the scrolling down.

BTW, no serial number problems, and didn't crash any of the apps.

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Jun 3, 2002, 01:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by boots:
BTW, no serial number problems,<hr /></blockquote>Wish I was that lucky <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Mrjinglesusa · Jun 3, 2002, 01:48 PM

Read the comments on the news page about this update. It reports perfectly GOOD serials invalid as well...

hwshi · Jun 3, 2002, 02:38 PM

serial problems here.arrgghh

gorickey · Jun 3, 2002, 02:53 PM

Worked great for me; however, I have a Volume License Office v. X disc that doesn't require individual serial numbers, therefore I had no worry to begin with.

Come on Apple with X.1.5, I want to see this Quartz rendering in action!

KaptainKaya · Jun 3, 2002, 05:53 PM

I can't believe it...I finally buy it at the Apple Store 2 weeks ago, and the update won't accept my serial number.

jfischetti · Jun 3, 2002, 06:13 PM

Can anyone confirm that if you create a NEW message in Entourage, it remembers where you last left the new message window.

I always hated that it defaulted to the top left corner and you could not center the window in the center of the screen (22" studio display)...

Top left is soooo far away...

Please let me know....

KellyHogan · Jun 3, 2002, 06:24 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Read the comments on the news page about this update. It reports perfectly GOOD serials invalid as well...<hr /></blockquote>Thats because perfectly perfectly good serials number was included with all the pirate versions on the net.

t_hah · Jun 3, 2002, 06:27 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jfischetti:
Can anyone confirm that if you create a NEW message in Entourage, it remembers where you last left the new message window.

I always hated that it defaulted to the top left corner and you could not center the window in the center of the screen (22" studio display)...

Top left is soooo far away...

Please let me know....<hr /></blockquote>Hm...I created a NEW message window, placed it in the middle of the screen sent it out...second NEW message...the window popped up in the top left hand corner as always.
I hope this helps you,

t

AJ · Jun 3, 2002, 07:29 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KellyHogan:
Thats because perfectly perfectly good serials number was included with all the pirate versions on the net.[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>That make no sense to me. What do you mean?

P · Jun 3, 2002, 08:54 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KellyHogan:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Read the comments on the news page about this update. It reports perfectly GOOD serials invalid as well...<hr /></blockquote>Thats because perfectly perfectly good serials number was included with all the pirate versions on the net.<hr /></blockquote>Maybe. A lot of serials that were blocked seem to be from schools and the like, where it's very possible that someone could have got them, but it seems a _lot_ of numbers were blocked. OTOH, I remember there were people with bad CD keys read directly from brand-new CDs just when the GM was fresh, so maybe MS has osme sort of problem with generating them.

BTW, there is already a serial out there that works with 10.1. Much good all this did to stop pirating...

PowerBookDude · Jun 3, 2002, 09:54 PM

So what's the call?

Install or not? Does the install work always with good legal non-pirated numbers or do they have just as much trouble as the pirated ones?

Thanks!

kcmac · Jun 3, 2002, 10:59 PM

Update works great for me. When I got the updater last November it came with an invalid SN. Had to call MS and they gave me a new one.

Powerpoint probably is the most affected by this update, at least visually. It comes on instantly and my slide shows now work much faster on my ibook 500.

Word scrolls faster but there is still a lag before it starts to move. It also comes on almost instantly after the first time you fire it up. (Not quite as fast as powerpoint, however.) The genie effect for the palette is faster. The font palette is instant on now displaying the fonts properly. Can't wait for 10.1.5 to see the new look of the text.
Entourage doesn't seem much different. That is fine by me anyway. When Jaguar comes out, I plan to move to Mail and the palm desktop. I can't believe that Entourage will get updated very swiftly to take advantage of the central repository with the new addressbook.

All in all, I would say MS did a good job with this.

fulmer · Jun 3, 2002, 11:07 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by t_hah:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jfischetti:
Can anyone confirm that if you create a NEW message in Entourage, it remembers where you last left the new message window.

I always hated that it defaulted to the top left corner and you could not center the window in the center of the screen (22" studio display)...

Top left is soooo far away...

Please let me know....<hr /></blockquote>Hm...I created a NEW message window, placed it in the middle of the screen sent it out...second NEW message...the window popped up in the top left hand corner as always.
I hope this helps you,

t<hr /></blockquote>you may have to position the first message window where you want it, then quit entourage. it might register the position then.

gorickey · Jun 3, 2002, 11:12 PM

That didn't work....

Simon Mundy · Jun 3, 2002, 11:38 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by PowerBookDude:
So what's the call?

Install or not? Does the install work always with good legal non-pirated numbers or do they have just as much trouble as the pirated ones?

Thanks!<hr /></blockquote>Had no probs here with a legal SN - some people have reported that it requires you to reenter the product key, but I didn't have to. It just installed and that was that. I did quit all my open programs before I installed just in case.

Everything else seems OK, I guess - nothing earth-shatteringly great. I guess I don't use the nuts and bolts of Office X enough to see the real improvements.

Where's 10.1.5, though?

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Jun 3, 2002, 11:42 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Simon Mundy:
[QUOTE]
Everything else seems OK, I guess - nothing earth-shatteringly great. I guess I don't use the nuts and bolts of Office X enough to see the real improvements.

Where's 10.1.5, though?<hr /></blockquote>I think we will see the good stuff when 10.1.5 ships.

brachiator · Jun 4, 2002, 01:50 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Simon Mundy:
[QUOTE]
Everything else seems OK, I guess - nothing earth-shatteringly great. I guess I don't use the nuts and bolts of Office X enough to see the real improvements.

Where's 10.1.5, though?<hr /></blockquote>I think we will see the good stuff when 10.1.5 ships.<hr /></blockquote>Well, just how much of a speed improvement is 10.1.5 supposed to bring? I have heard conflicting reports...

My primary beef with Office is speed in scrolling, opening, saving, handling multiple open docs, etc. I assume that this is partially an OS issue. I don't care too much about the Quartz bit, although that would be nice.

asxless · Jun 4, 2002, 07:34 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Simon Mundy:
Had no probs here with a legal SN - some people have reported that it requires you to reenter the product key, but I didn't have to. It just installed and that was that. I did quit all my open programs before I installed just in case.

Everything else seems OK, I guess - nothing earth-shatteringly great. I guess I don't use the nuts and bolts of Office X enough to see the real improvements...<hr /></blockquote>Same here. No problems; No drama.

asxless in iLand