[Lysistrata]

40 mins and 40 secs in: who is he arguing with? Are earpieces legal in the debate?

[Lysistrata]

Picture of the earpiece receiver on his back:

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Lysistrata:
Picture of the earpiece receiver on his back:

A wireless mic perhaps?



Maury

[Logic]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
A wireless mic perhaps?



Maury

Why would he need a wireless mic if there already is a mic in front of him?

[UNTeMac]

Come on, this is no better than the Kerry notecard thing.

[chris v]

Really. As bad as Bush came off, if he'd had an earpiece, they might have used it to tell him to stop sighing and making faces. I think those are probably pleats on the back of his tailored jacket. Let's not stoop to Drudge's level, as tempting as it is.

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Logic:
Why would he need a wireless mic if there already is a mic in front of him?

...uh, do I really have to answer that? The wireless mics are used for recording spoken word, the mic on the podiums are used to project through the auditorium speakers. This is a standard setup in public speaking.

Maury

[icruise]

Come on, this is no better than the Kerry notecard thing.

Isn't that the point? (I assume that this is a dig at the repubs for that)

[UNTeMac]

Originally posted by Icruise:
Isn't that the point? (I assume that this is a dig at the repubs for that)

Heh, only if Lysistrata is joking which I'm not sure he/she is.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by Lysistrata:
Picture of the earpiece receiver on his back

You fool. That's where his batteries go.

[Sock Puppet Theater]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
You fool. That's where his batteries go.

His batteries must have been low; he was hunched over and kept forgetting what he was saying.

[constrictor]

Originally posted by Sock Puppet Theater:
His batteries must have been low; he was hunched over and kept forgetting what he was saying.

I don't think that's just the batteries. Bush always forgets what he's saying, if he's saying anything at all. When he has prepared words, however, he comes across in a much more entertaining way. Behold gems like this:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking of ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -Shrub, batteries full

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
...uh, do I really have to answer that? The wireless mics are used for recording spoken word, the mic on the podiums are used to project through the auditorium speakers. This is a standard setup in public speaking.

It is not a standard setup in a spoken-word TV setting. Generally, in a controlled environment, there is one mike. Per person.

Other than that, why would he wear a wireless *whatever* on his BACK, rather than tucked in his belt or jacket pocket or wherever?

I'm with the wardrobe malfunction theory, over and out.

[chris v]

Originally posted by constrictor:
I don't think that's just the batteries. Bush always forgets what he's saying, if he's saying anything at all. When he has prepared words, however, he comes across in a much more entertaining way. Behold gems like this:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking of ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -Shrub, batteries full

Reading from a page. That one was fascinating. It got by the speechwriters and the proofreaders, too.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
...uh, do I really have to answer that? The wireless mics are used for recording spoken word, the mic on the podiums are used to project through the auditorium speakers. This is a standard setup in public speaking.

Maury

I've never heard of that. Why would they need 2 separate mics? They both go through the recording booth first.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
...uh, do I really have to answer that? The wireless mics are used for recording spoken word, the mic on the podiums are used to project through the auditorium speakers. This is a standard setup in public speaking.

Maury

No it's not. Especially if you have a mike on a podium in front of you. But I'm with the others here: nothing doing, let's not stoop to Drudge-level unfounded allegations.

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
No it's not. Especially if you have a mike on a podium in front of you. But I'm with the others here: nothing doing, let's not stoop to Drudge-level unfounded allegations.

Heh, I love that retort. I love how you assume that I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. I love how you don't know that one of my secondary minors was sound and studio engineering. I love how you don't know how many hours I spent on the road with all kinds of speakers and presenters, running all the audio. I love how you have no idea what YOU'RE talking about -- or you wouldn't be so brazen with your comments -- and how you so quickly made yourself a...



...to everyone that knows anythign about sound engineering and recording oratories.

Google is your friend, mien kapitan. At least do some research before posting.

Maury

[BlueSky]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Heh, I love that retort. I love how you assume that I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. I love how you don't know that one of my secondary minors was sound and studio engineering. I love how you don't know how many hours I spent on the road with all kinds of speakers and presenters, running all the audio. I love how you have no idea what YOU'RE talking about -- or you wouldn't be so brazen with your comments -- and how you so quickly made yourself a...

but most of alllllllllll, I love how you love meeeeeeeeeeee

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Bluesky:
but most of alllllllllll, I love how you love meeeeeeeeeeee

Maury

[Wiskedjak]

Maybe it's an off-switch?

[OldManMac]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Maybe it's an off-switch?

It was a dimmer switch, and it was stuck in the middle. When he goes to bed, Rove turns it off.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Heh, I love that retort. I love how you assume that I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. I love how you don't know that one of my secondary minors was sound and studio engineering. I love how you don't know how many hours I spent on the road with all kinds of speakers and presenters, running all the audio. I love how you have no idea what YOU'RE talking about -- or you wouldn't be so brazen with your comments -- and how you so quickly made yourself a...

...to everyone that knows anythign about sound engineering and recording oratories.

Google is your friend, mien kapitan. At least do some research before posting.

Maury

Nice personal attack. It's even better that it come from someone who touts his morals and values on these boards.

For the record I have given a lot of public presentations and NEVER had a wireless mike when there was a podium mike. Never, not once in about 50 or so talks. So, in my experience it is NOT a standard thing. Feel better now?

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Nice personal attack. It's even better that it come from someone who touts his morals and values on these boards.

For the record I have given a lot of public presentations and NEVER had a wireless mike when there was a podium mike. Never, not once in about 50 or so talks. So, in my experience it is NOT a standard thing. Feel better now?

Yes, that's much better. One should always qualify statements in their experience rather than make blanket statements of knowledge as you did.

Maury

[Troll]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
One should always qualify statements in their experience rather than make blanket statements of knowledge as you did.

How rude are you? You make an unqualified, blanket statement like "This is a standard setup in public speaking," and then moan at other people for doing the same!

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Troll:
How rude are you? You make an unqualified, blanket statement like "This is a standard setup in public speaking," and then moan at other people for doing the same!

Not rude at all -- give me a break. My statement was pretty wide-open, and stating that such a setup is standard is by no means implying that ALL setups are that way.

And you dems accusee US of being knee-jerking? Give me a break.

Maury

[chris v]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
I love how you don't know that one of my secondary minors was sound and studio engineering.

Well, they certainly weren't in congenialiity, were they?


(neither were mine, as you can see)

[Mrjinglesusa]

Someone show me a picture from the debate proving they were wearing wireless mikes. All pictures I have seen show no mikes on their ties or lapels. In addition, since when do you put the receiver or power supply on the guys back? Would be on his waist if there was one.

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Someone show me a picture from the debate proving they were wearing wireless mikes. All pictures I have seen show no mikes on their ties or lapels. In addition, since when do you put the receiver or power supply on the guys back? Would be on his waist if there was one.

...I don't know why I keep bothering with this thread, but maybe since I'm an audiophile, I keep coming back. I will say, however, that GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND! Musician's Friend sells loads of them, too.

They have some that fit under the top button of your collar, they sell several types that you insert into your tie, many clip to the top button, many actually fit into the inside pocket of one's coat. As for the transmitter, many clip to one's belt, but the same models usually have a shoulder strap so that there isn't a transmitter cable dangling from the bottom of the jacket.

Why are we arguing over this? It's not like wireless mics are anything new and aren't a dime a dozen.

GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND!!

Maury

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Sock Puppet Theater:
His batteries must have been low; he was hunched over and kept forgetting what he was saying.

May have had something to do with him giving comfort and support to the hurricane victims, doncha think? If he hadn't shown so much compassion, he would have been better rested... like Kerry.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Not rude at all -- give me a break. My statement was pretty wide-open, and stating that such a setup is standard is by no means implying that ALL setups are that way.

And you dems accusee US of being knee-jerking? Give me a break.

You're not seriously trying to argue that calling someone an assclown is "not rude at all", are you?

Has reality lost its fascination with you people?

Try it sometime.

[An Alias]

Looks like one of Bush's strings just snapped in that pic. Either that, or his back breaking under the weight of Kerry kicking his ass.

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
You're not seriously trying to argue that calling someone an assclown is "not rude at all", are you?

Has reality lost its fascination with you people?

Try it sometime.

"Assclown"..? you looked at the pic backwards -- it's Jackass.

Maybe it was rude. I'm sorry. I think he'll live. lastly, who are "you people" anyway? People that make pic with Jack and asses?

Maury

[chris v]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
May have had something to do with him giving comfort and support to the hurricane victims, doncha think? If he hadn't shown so much compassion, he would have been better rested... like Kerry.

Wait... I thought he lost the debate because Kerry brought his own pen. Now I'm confused. So you're saying he lost the debate becasue he was tired?

[constrictor]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
May have had something to do with him giving comfort and support to the hurricane victims, doncha think? If he hadn't shown so much compassion, he would have been better rested... like Kerry.

LMFAO

Keep 'em coming. We've heard almost as many excuses for why Bush lost the debate as we've heard excuses for invading Iraq.

[Anders]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
May have had something to do with him giving comfort and support to the hurricane victims, doncha think? If he hadn't shown so much compassion, he would have been better rested.

So his compassion can cost him the presidency? And when he dies he dies for our sins?

You really don�t believe that story yourself do you? And if you really do isn�t he a bit too stupid to be your president?

[chris v]

Settle down there, Anders. That's three posts in one day! Easy, big fella, or you'll spoil your ratio.

[Jansar]

Originally posted by chris v:
Wait... I thought he lost the debate because Kerry brought his own pen. Now I'm confused. So you're saying he lost the debate becasue he was tired?

He lost?

[Anders]

I changed my sig right just five minutes ago...

[Anders]

Originally posted by Jansar:
He lost?

Yes he did.

But okay in bizzaro world Bush won. And thats despite he, without thinking selfishly on the debate, worked hard all day to help and give comfort to hurricane victims. And despite the fact he became confused when Kerry took out a black pen from his inner pocket.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by constrictor:
LMFAO

Keep 'em coming. We've heard almost as many excuses for why Bush lost the debate as we've heard excuses for invading Iraq.

So, you don't believe he was visiting hurricane victims while Kerry was resting and practicing for the debate?

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Anders:


Yes he did.

But okay in bizzaro world Bush won. And thats despite he, without thinking selfishly on the debate, worked hard all day to help and give comfort to hurricane victims. And despite the fact he became confused when Kerry took out a black pen from his inner pocket.

and wow, if you could vote in the US, your opinion would actually matter.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Heh, I love that retort. I love how you assume that I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. I love how you don't know that one of my secondary minors was sound and studio engineering. I love how you don't know how many hours I spent on the road with all kinds of speakers and presenters, running all the audio. I love how you have no idea what YOU'RE talking about -- or you wouldn't be so brazen with your comments -- and how you so quickly made yourself a...

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...to everyone that knows anythign about sound engineering and recording oratories.

Google is your friend, mien kapitan. At least do some research before posting.

Maury

I know that when a speaker might move away from the podium it is standard practice to stick a wireless mic on him so you can still pick up audio. But in a setting like this where the speaker will be at the podium the whole time, do you really think they needed to put a wireless mic on him?

Why would you need a separate mic for recording vs. the audio going out to through the speakers?

[Anders]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
and wow, if you could vote in the US, your opinion would actually matter.

Don�t you know that facts aren�t the same as opinions?

"Well he was from Germany so all that relativity stuff doesn�t matter for us because WE ARE AMERICANS"

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Anders:
Don�t you know that facts aren�t the same as opinions?

"Well he was from Germany so all that relativity stuff doesn�t matter for us because WE ARE AMERICANS"

Oh, you can have an opinion, of course. You just can't do anything about it. There's a fact for you.

[Anders]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Oh, you can have an opinion, of course. You just can't do anything about it. There's a fact for you.

I could ask my prime minister to call out our troops in Iraq if the war is still commanded by Bush come February and thats what will happen

[icruise]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
and wow, if you could vote in the US, your opinion would actually matter.

Well, I have the same opinion and I can vote.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Anders:
I could ask my prime minister to call out our troops in Iraq if the war is still commanded by Bush come February and thats what will happen

Go ahead, send them both home.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Icruise:
Well, I have the same opinion and I can vote.

Yep, and your opinion has weight.

[Anders]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Go ahead, send them both home.

Thanks. Two more on do-not-call list in one day. Great coalition your building there

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Anders:
Thanks. Two more on do-not-call list in one day. Great coalition your building there

Our troops will just have to make do without Aebleskiver.