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when was this monitor made?
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MAC365
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Jul 10, 2004, 05:31 PM
 
Its called the 'Apple Studio Display 17 CRT Conventional Monitor'

heres a pic of the thing in question - it looks like an imac.

http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/macuser/17g.jpg

I'm asking because the Apple website info on some of the stuff they made is a right load of rubbish (virtually non-existant!). All their help articles are about the later flat screen ones. Useless !! I need to know as i've just bought one secondhand but I havn't got it yet.

Also does anyone know what connector it has, what the model number is and if I can connect it to a PowerMac G4 466mhz (5 slot).

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Jul 10, 2004, 05:41 PM
 
I believe they started making them in 1999. I had one that I used with my G4 400 PCI graphics. Beautiful monitor. And still works like the day it was new.
Check out www.Apple-history.com. Although I don't see that they list monitors it's a great site.
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Jul 10, 2004, 05:59 PM
 
They originally made them alongside the Blue & White G3 towers. When the G4's came out, they changed them to the graphite color in your pic. Not sure of the connector they use, but I doubt it's ADC or DVI. It should work with your G4, assuming you haven't replaced the video card with something funky
     
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Jul 10, 2004, 06:05 PM
 
They have a VGA connector- nice monitor- I worked at a place that had a bunch of them.
     
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Jul 10, 2004, 06:59 PM
 
thanks everyone for the info. Its older than I thought but I agree it is a nice looking monitor (for a CRT).

I think I was a little harsh on the info on the Apple website. The info on the older computers is generally excellent, but the coverage on this oldish monitor is just not good enough considering it is an Apple product. It would be useful if they had a page with a photo on (for identification purposes) with its exact specification and compatability with a range of macs made about the same time esp as there seems to be so many different types of connection around
     
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Jul 11, 2004, 09:18 AM
 
It is the Studio Display 17" and was first introduced on January 5, 1999. It does use the vga connector....I think the adc connector came with the next model which had the clear case design. Here is the complete spec as listed by Apple:
Physical
Power



Introduced:
1/5/1999

Discontinued:
n/a

Tube Size:
17"

Viewable Size:
16" VIS

Tube Type:

Weight (lbs):
48

Dimensions (in):
18.9 H x 16.5 W x 16.9 D



Max Watts:
120

Amps:
2.0

BTU per Hr:
410.4

Voltage:
100-120/220-240

Freq Range:
50-60 Hz


Modes



Mode
Resolution
Vert
Rate
Horiz
Rate
DPI

Mac
640 x 480
66.7Hz
35.00kHz

Mac
832 x 624
75Hz
49.72kHz

Mac
1152 x 870
75Hz
68.68kHz

VESA
1024 x 768
60Hz
48.36kHz

VGA
640 x 480
60Hz
31.47kHz

VESA
800 x 600
60Hz
37.88kHz

VESA
800 x 600
85Hz
53.67kHz

VESA
1024 x 768
75Hz
60.02kHz

VESA
1280 x 1024
75Hz
79.98kHz

VESA
1600 x 1200
60Hz
75.00kHz
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Jul 11, 2004, 01:51 PM
 
It's very nice. My brother has one and he still uses it, despite it being five years old. 1280x1024 at 75 Hz is very nice. Modern high-end monitors will do that at 85 Hz, but a typical cheap 17" CRT only does that resolution at 60 Hz, and you have to drop it to 1024x768 to get an acceptable refresh rate.

I don't know if it would be worth buying one these days, for a few bucks more you can get a higher quality and larger 19" CRT (I'd recommend NEC, I have an FE791SB), but they are great if you can get a good deal on them.
     
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Jul 11, 2004, 04:47 PM
 
I have a couple of them:

a 17" blue & ice white case, diamondtron tube

a 21" graphite & ice white case, trinitron tube

both are excellent monitors, the image is really good, I find the 17" tube more dark, which is nicer of course, but the 21" has four USB ports on it, more 'built in" software controls, and an excellent calibrator system.

The maiden 1999 blue&white 21" monitor is 'Moby' it really looks like a whale.

Do not worry about two 'visible' horizontal lines you�ll see on the screen, they are typical on diamondtron / trinitron tubes.
     
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Jul 11, 2004, 05:08 PM
 
Originally posted by angelmb:
Do not worry about two 'visible' horizontal lines you�ll see on the screen, they are typical on diamondtron / trinitron tubes.
No it's not. I had one like that, it had the two lines and shortly after it died. But it was a good monitor.
     
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Jul 11, 2004, 06:56 PM
 
Of course it's normal. Trinitron monitors always have horizontal lines at about 1/3 and 2/3 of the way down the screen. It's inherent to the design.

As for this monitor, I don't recall them being Trinitrons, at least not the 17s. The later production ones had the ADC connector.
     
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Jul 12, 2004, 01:17 AM
 
This monitor is a Trinitron, and like all aperture grille CRTs (=Trinitron, Diamondtron), it needs stabilizer wires (typically 1 on small tubes, 2 on larger ones). There is no malfunction.

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