[aehaas]

I tried to run the fix permissions but it does not run. anyone elso seeing this?

aehaas

[WOPR]

Think I'll wait a few days as I'm still hacked off about this stupid DNS problem with Safari that's happened since the last security update. Adding manual DNS numbers has helped but it still isn't right.

[Big Mac]

Originally posted by WOPR:
Think I'll wait a few days as I'm still hacked off about this stupid DNS problem with Safari that's happened since the last security update. Adding manual DNS numbers has helped but it still isn't right.

What Safari DNS problem do you speak of?

[WOPR]

Originally posted by Big Mac:
What Safari DNS problem do you speak of?

There's another thread on it. Safari just stops responding to sites, then suddenly wakes up. Adding manual DNS numbers to the Network pane has helped a lot, but it started happening the minute I installed the sec update last week. Things still aren't quite right now. I'm downloading the combo updater and will install it in a couple of days.

[Chris Grande]

The problem with calculator appears to be connected to the Speech settings under the Speech menu, make sure they are both unchecked and relaunch. You also get this error in console:
2004-11-05 18:17:53.397 Calculator[445] *** -[NSSpeechSynthesizer _setRate:]: selector not recognized

[Person Man]

Originally posted by WOPR:
There's another thread on it. Safari just stops responding to sites, then suddenly wakes up. Adding manual DNS numbers to the Network pane has helped a lot, but it started happening the minute I installed the sec update last week. Things still aren't quite right now. I'm downloading the combo updater and will install it in a couple of days.

It's not specific to Safari. The issue is more fully explained at MacFixit.

[Person Man]

Originally posted by CatOne:
Can someone do run:

sw_vers

from a terminal window, and let me know the results?

The exact same information can be had by going to "About this Mac," and then by clicking on "Version 10.3.6," you'll see "Build 7R28"

But, if you insist on the output from sw_vers, here it is, too:

Code:
ProductName:    Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.3.6
BuildVersion:   7R28

[cal6n]

Originally posted by Person Man:
DISCLAIMER: I am not accusing akuma-x of piracy (he may be a developer with legitimate access to seeds), but I do know that many people WITHOUT legitimate access to developer seeds have still acquired 1.3 DP by other means, and this is addressed to those people in general.

This is why it is wrong to use something you're not entitled to access. "It's free so I'm entitled to prerelease software whether I'm 'legally allowed' or not," is NOT a valid excuse.

For whatever reason, Apple has either decided not to release a Safari 1.3, OR decided to roll SOME of the improvements into 1.2.x over time.

I'm already hearing people *blame Apple* for not "allowing" you to install 10.3.6 on top of Safari DP 1.3. If you had used the software correctly (as a "test version" as was intended), you wouldn't be having these problems. It's not Apple's fault that you didn't use the software properly.

For those of you who installed 1.3 without *legitimate* developer access, and now have trouble with Safari after installing 10.3.6, you got what you deserve (and only you know who you are). For those of you with legitimate developer access and have installed 1.3 on their day-to-day copy of the OS (instead of a test copy), shame on you. Those of you with legitimate access to 1.3 and who have installed it on a test copy of the OS will not have any of these problems.

Also, who is to say that Apple didn't pull 1.3 because of the leaks? That may seem pretty childish to do so, but they're well within their rights to do it. In that case, "what's the harm in using the prerelease version of free software," means that the harm is that EVERYBODY loses when Apple decides not to release the software in question instead preferring to wait until 2.0 (in OS X 10.4) to release the software.

You patronising WAKNER!!!

[ae77]

Originally posted by PurpleGiant:
Oh man, it's great. I took some screenshots for those interested:

Number 1
Number 2
Number 3
Number 4
Number 5
Number 6
Number 7

too funny

[CatOne]

Originally posted by Person Man:
The exact same information can be had by going to "About this Mac," and then by clicking on "Version 10.3.6," you'll see "Build 7R28"

But, if you insist on the output from sw_vers, here it is, too:

Code:
ProductName:    Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.3.6
BuildVersion:   7R28

Gah!

Okay, combo update time for me ;-)

[andreas_g4]

Originally posted by PurpleGiant:
Oh man, it's great. I took some screenshots for those interested:

Number 1
Number 2
Number 3
Number 4
Number 5
Number 6
Number 7

What a crappy combination of UI colors you have.

[Photo678]

Still no fix on the screensaver/color calibration issue

[andreas_g4]

Originally posted by monkeybrain:
Wow, nice selection colour! And here I was using blue, oh man I could be using green! Or maybe even pink, hey what colour does everyone else use?

Are you serious?

[rocky2]

DVD Player in 10.3.6 seems broken on my setup (DA 733) with 2 screens connected to a 9800 PRO and using a Pioneer 108D. When I launch DVD Player I get two error messages:

1. DVD Player encountered a system error. The viewer could not be moved to the selected screen.


I click OK and get a second message:

2. The current machine or system configuration is not supported. There was an initialization error (-70013).

Everything was working fine with 10.3.5 before the update!

The Pionner 108D is using the recent 1.14 firmware but the drive is still seen as not supported in the System profiler. I have a suspicion that Apple may have blocked the 108D with DVD Player by using its own firmware ID for the 108 (Pioneer 117D).

I have tried removing one screen from the Radeon but that does not fix the problem.

Beware of this update if you use the Pioneer 108D.

Robert

FWIW.

VLC still plays DVDs fine.

[Simon X]

Originally posted by Chris Grande:
Is anyone else's calculator broken?

No. My Casio NS-20L is working just fine.

[cal6n]

Originally posted by rocky2:
DVD Player in 10.3.6 seems broken on my setup (DA 733) with 2 screens connected to a 9800 PRO and using a Pioneer 108D. When I launch DVD Player I get two error messages:

1. DVD Player encountered a system error. The viewer could not be moved to the selected screen.


I click OK and get a second message:

2. The current machine or system configuration is not supported. There was an initialization error (-70013).

Everything was working fine with 10.3.5 before the update!

The Pionner 108D is using the recent 1.14 firmware but the drive is still seen as not supported in the System profiler. I have a suspicion that Apple may have blocked the 108D with DVD Player by using its own firmware ID for the 108 (Pioneer 117D).

I have tried removing one screen from the Radeon but that does not fix the problem.

Beware of this update if you use the Pioneer 108D.

Robert

FWIW.

VLC still plays DVDs fine.

Have you tried patchburn

http://www.patchburn.de/

[nredman]

Originally posted by PurpleGiant:
Oh man, it's great. I took some screenshots for those interested:

Number 1
Number 2
Number 3
Number 4
Number 5
Number 6
Number 7

holy dude, you have way too much time on your hands

[Eug Wanker]

So why have PowerBook7,1 and PowerBook7,2 (which were in X.3.5) disappeared from this:

/System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/Contents/Info.plist

PowerMac7,2: Rev. A G5 Power Macs
PowerMac7,3: Rev. B G5 Power Macs
PowerMac8,1: iMac G5
PowerMac9,1: new Power Mac G5 1.8 single
RackMac3,1: Xserve G5
PowerBook7,1: ??? -> gone
PowerBook7,2: ??? -> gone

[bbales]

Originally posted by Simon X:
No. My Casio NS-20L is working just fine.

[SMacTech]

Originally posted by WOPR:
Think I'll wait a few days as I'm still hacked off about this stupid DNS problem with Safari that's happened since the last security update. Adding manual DNS numbers has helped but it still isn't right.

Did you turn IP6 off ?

[Horsepoo!!!]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
So why have PowerBook7,1 and PowerBook7,2 (which were in X.3.5) disappeared from this:

/System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/Contents/Info.plist

PowerMac7,2: Rev. A G5 Power Macs
PowerMac7,3: Rev. B G5 Power Macs
PowerMac8,1: iMac G5
PowerMac9,1: new Power Mac G5 1.8 single
RackMac3,1: Xserve G5
PowerBook7,1: ??? -> gone
PowerBook7,2: ??? -> gone

Apple has given up on the PowerBook G5?

Why did IBM lie to us when they said this chip could go into laptops? Or did they mean it could fit in a laptop if it wasn't a 1-inch-thick-laptop?

[Toyin]

Purple Giant, I'm still laughing from those screenshots.

Anyone having any conflicts with ATI 4.4.1 update? I haven't installed 10.3.6. or the ATI update. Should I do both or just 10.3.6+

15" PB with 128MB Radeon Mobility

[cal6n]

Originally posted by Toyin:

Anyone having any conflicts with ATI 4.4.1 update? I haven't installed 10.3.6. or the ATI update. Should I do both or just 10.3.6+

15" PB with 128MB Radeon Mobility

Checkout:

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/

Scroll down a bit and you'll find that there's a bug in 4.4.1

[wataru]

No problems here. iBook G4 800MHz.

[kcmac]

Does not fix the DNS thing. Still have to double click.

Safari does appear to scroll faster.

[SoGood]

Originally posted by akuma-x:
Well seeing that I'm running safari DP 1.3 (v146) I'm going to wait.
For one, I wonder if the speed improvements that are in 1.3 made it into 1.2.4 (some how I doubt they are). I would think that 1.2.4 (v125.11) is a big step down from 1.3 (v146).
So unless someone can find a work around then I'm sticking with 10.3.5.

BTW, has anyone maybe tried removing safari 1.3 from the applications folder before doing the 10.3.6 update?

Firstly, I've been through both and have to say that the last version of 1.2.3 had speeds equivalent to that of 1.3DP if not better, and the current 1.2.4 improved on that. In other words, 1.3DP is history, not even touching on the subject of all the security updates in the 1.2.x series.

As for reinstalling 1.2.x properly. It was a bit of a buggar. But you can do that by deleting 1.3DP and then install from Safari 1.2 (standalone installer), and then move through the various QT, security and up to 10.3.5 combo updater. I also replaced /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.frameworks folder from separate OS X installation that did not have 1.3DP. This was carried out under root. There may be a few irrelevant steps but I did it all to be sure, and everything are all working well without a hitch now.

[rocky2]

Tried adding Patchburn and the drive is now Vendor supported but still getting the second error message on DVD Player
Looked at the DVD Player crash log and it still thinks I am running 10.3.5 although System Profiler shows 10.3.6 (build 7R28).
Something very screwy here. Took all the usuual precautions with fixing preferences before and after, etc. and am now running Combo update.

[RonnieoftheRose]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
So why have PowerBook7,1 and PowerBook7,2 (which were in X.3.5) disappeared from this:

/System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/Contents/Info.plist

PowerMac7,2: Rev. A G5 Power Macs
PowerMac7,3: Rev. B G5 Power Macs
PowerMac8,1: iMac G5
PowerMac9,1: new Power Mac G5 1.8 single
RackMac3,1: Xserve G5
PowerBook7,1: ??? -> gone
PowerBook7,2: ??? -> gone

The logical explanation is that 10.3.5 was being installed on alpha Powerbook G5 designs but since the CPU still runs hot and the design is far from final they didn't need to include the model numbers in 10.3.6 as they will be sticking with the G4 for a while longer.

[Person Man]

Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
Apple has given up on the PowerBook G5?

Why did IBM lie to us when they said this chip could go into laptops? Or did they mean it could fit in a laptop if it wasn't a 1-inch-thick-laptop?

Don't go jumping to conclusions... just because PowerBook 7,1 and 7,2 were removed doesn't mean Apple has "given up" on the PowerBook G5 nor does it mean that IBM "lied to us"

It probably means that Apple either removed the mention of the items because of people seeing them mentioned and thinking that a PowerBook G5 is around the corner, or the timetable has slipped, for whatever reason.

[AlbanianGenome]

anyone notice that its like 14 megs in the software update, and like 36 megs listed by versiontracker? Any ideas? I went through the software update panel myself.

[Person Man]

Originally posted by AlbanianGenome:
anyone notice that its like 14 megs in the software update, and like 36 megs listed by versiontracker? Any ideas? I went through the software update panel myself.

Apple has several versions of the update that you can get through Software Update depending on the computer you have. They do this to cut down on downloading time. The only catch is that the updater is specific to your machine and should not be used on other machines (i.e. you have to get it directly from Software Update).

The regular 10.3.5 --> 10.3.6 updater is 36 megs in size and is a universal updater for 10.3.5. If you're planning on using one download to install on more than one machine, this is the one you want.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by RonnieoftheRose:
The logical explanation is that 10.3.5 was being installed on alpha Powerbook G5 designs but since the CPU still runs hot and the design is far from final they didn't need to include the model numbers in 10.3.6 as they will be sticking with the G4 for a while longer.

Why aren't any of the G4 models listed? Just wondering.

[MrForgetable]

Originally posted by mdc:
installed it. safari is 1.2.4.

besides apple ruining my 6 day uptime (sorry, i had to ) everything seems fine. no immediate problems.

weak, i had 10 days before installing this



no problems on the 15 inch powerbook.

[kiazer]

B&W G3 and a MDD - no issues to report

[chabig]

Originally posted by poocat:
Safari 1.2.4 fixes eBay.

Seriously...I thought the eBay problem was mine alone!

Chris

[RonnieoftheRose]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Why aren't any of the G4 models listed? Just wondering.

Because maybe the next update will only have an increase in clockspeed and no other changes or at a stretch there won't be an update until a G5 next year some time. I'm not working for Apple so I'm guessing. They appear to be uncertain about what to do with the PowerBook range for the next several months.

[arekkusu]

Well, here's a problem:

Run an OpenGL game that goes fullscreen and captures the display (so Cmd-Tab is disabled and so on...) and then hit Cmd-Shift-3 to take a screen capture.

On Radeon 9600 hardware, the resulting picture is all scrambled. Worked fine in 10.3.5.

[bastula]

Ackkk. My AlBook doesn't boot anymore. It just hangs at the Apple screen with the spinning thing going forever. I hear the hard drive going at the beginning like normal, but after a minute or two, it just quits.

I tried resetting the PRAM and also repaired permissions and did drive repair via the OS X install cd's Disk Utility, but nothing helps.

I backed up my data via Firewire target disk mode to my girlfriend's laptop, so I am using that to post now.

Here's a thread at the Apple Discussion board about someone else who also is experiencing the same issue: http://discussions.info.apple.com/[email protected]

Any clues?

[gethigh]

Apart from Safari, I don't think any of my other apps were updated (so far I have Calculator 3.1(v3.2), DVD Player 4.0, or Image Capture 2.1.0(v183)).

[heavyboots]

Originally posted by Fusion:
Wow, I hope this was just me, but I just fired up software update and was in the middle of updating, and while browsing in the middle of the update, I got a kernal panic.

After rebooting, everything seems fine, and about this mac and about safari both show the update worked.

I am a little scared though.

Fusion, you can usually apply the combo updater over the top of the same version. If your system starts giving you trouble, download that and see if it will reapply the 10.3.6 update with better results.

[hagheid]

Originally posted by fisherKing:
damn...guess it's conditioning, but i've been stuck clicking on the "agree' button on that image in your post for 15 minutes...
my girlfriend had to come over to my desk & pry my fingers from the keyboard.

Just as well you don't use a joystick.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by heavyboots:
Fusion, you can usually apply the combo updater over the top of the same version. If your system starts giving you trouble, download that and see if it will reapply the 10.3.6 update with better results.

Thanx for the advice! So far, everything is still okay, so I am praying it was just a hiccup.

[Ryan1524]

my dad's ibook came today loaded with 10.3.6. but my firewire HDD won't mount to it. anybody got this problem? i'm scared to install it on my PB cause of this.

[WOPR]

Originally posted by SMacTech:
Did you turn IP6 off ?

I'd forgotten that, I'll do that as well.

[HorseyBoy]

Originally posted by gethigh:
Apart from Safari, I don't think any of my other apps were updated (so far I have Calculator 3.1(v3.2), DVD Player 4.0, or Image Capture 2.1.0(v183)).

Same here. Why might that happen? I used Pacifist to check the version of Image Capture included in the 10.3.6 Combo Update and it's at 2.1.4. Couldn't find a version of DVD Player in there at all.
Anyone have any ideas?

[MindFad]

Originally posted by SafariX:
I began lactating from my migrating third nipple by Number 3.

I had already *** by number 5. Damn.

I'm totally gonna check my software in a few minutes and go to bed. Drunken software update roxors

[oscar]

For you guys that have broken apps after the update, you need to delete those apps. You prolly moved those apps out of the /Applications/ folder. So, delete all instances of the app, and run the combo updater.

[theolein]

I'll be doing a full backup before I install this.

To those who had kp's during the install, I think it would be wise to never run one single programme during a system update. I know it's boring and all, but whenever a new update comes out, I quit everything and only run the updater.

[siMac]

OK, I just ran Software Update to get this sucker installed on my iBook.

Partway through, I don't know how far, it kernel panicked. Like, someone else, I had Safari open while the installer was running. Now I can't log into the GUI. It boots into command line (console). I have tried repairing permissions from the install disk (long shot) which didn't work.



So now I am performing an archive and install to put a working system back on it. Fu�k! I just zeroed and reinstalled my system last fu�king week to try and get rid of these damn Panther freezes - I had just about got everything configured and running how I like it too and now I'm back to square one (or 1.1 anyway).

I suspect that Safari being open may have something to do with this, especially seeing as a Safari update is part of 10.3.6. In which case it would have been nice for Software Update to have closed Safari before starting.

This is not the first update to fu�k up people's systems, at least mine's not as catastrophic as some previous problems. Apple's quality control seems to be slipping further and further.




Cue Apple apologists' explanations of why it is, in fact, me who is responsible for this episode:

[quadgrande]

I had Safari open and was actively browsing the whole time the update was installing. I did not experience a kernel panic. I have a Powerbook and was coming from 10.3.5.

No issues to report, I'm anxious to try World of Warcraft after this update to see if performance has improved, although it's not that bad to begin with.