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The straw trend started with a Girl Scout who convinced Alaska Air to get rid of straws.
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/con...lastic-straws/
Straws are a good thing to use less of, as they can't be recycled and inexpensive paper straws work for most other purposes. Cutlery however is harder to convince people to make the switch to wood or cornstarch.
Interestingly, after this supposed good news in the land of recycling, I heard some disabled communities are not pleased about this because paper or metal straws wouldn't work for them. So there will have to be some plastic straws still on request.
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The trend started decades ago with countries beginning the outlaw free plastic bags.
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As well as convincing us to carry our own water bottles around instead of disposable all the time.
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Some places are switching to non-disposable straws. I’d guess the inside gets teh funky.
It’s sexist, but I don’t think straws are a good look on an adult male. I’ll use them with fast food, or a shake, but that’s it.
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I do not know why straws and plastic forks and knives aren't recyclable or at least reusable. Besides some people chewing on the straws and cutlery, any reason why they are not reusable, at least for a few times? Drop into some soapy water and a bit of disinfectant and they should be good to go. When I use plastic cutlery on picnics and such, I always reuse them a few times myself.
Where I live, convenience stores are the place to go for many people and when you order a drink (such as a carton of milk), a straw gets handed to you by the cashier. I promptly put the straw back. I don't see why people just don't drink straight from the bottle or carton.
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Originally Posted by mindwaves
I do not know why straws and plastic forks and knives aren't recyclable or at least reusable. Besides some people chewing on the straws and cutlery, any reason why they are not reusable, at least for a few times? Drop into some soapy water and a bit of disinfectant and they should be good to go. When I use plastic cutlery on picnics and such, I always reuse them a few times myself.
Mostly because there is no good way to clean them. Metal cutlery, or PET bottles, are cleaned by dousing them with very hot water and washing up fluid. If you do that with the softer plastics used for straws, they will deform. Switching to another plastic - say PET like those bottles - would work to clean them several times, but I expect that there is a cost difference.
You can of course clean them by hand-washing each, but that doesn't scale for large operations.
For straws I imagine that they're harder to clean, so paper straws are probably a better idea.
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Thanks for the explanation. I really hope we can limit the use of plastic. I was once given a package of cookies. They were individually wrapped in plastic complete with their own desiccant silica gel, in their own little plastic tray, and packaged in another larger tray. 12 cookies total. A total waste of plastic.
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I honestly think that we need to get over the fact that there are germs in the world. We don’t need to pack every single item in plastic individually, and if paper packaging is a little less anti-bacterial than waxed paper, then... so what? Wash your hands, keep the an outer cover, but don’t isolate every single thing. Eating a single portion airplane meal is so frustrating, it is more packaging than food.
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Location: Iowa, how long can this be? Does it really ruin the left column spacing?
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Alternate title: "Environment News: The Last Straw"
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Spheric, that article was great. Why not go back to straw straws, or paper straws. Plastic straws are wrapped in paper anyhow.
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Location: Iowa, how long can this be? Does it really ruin the left column spacing?
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Originally Posted by P
Eating an airplane meal
Well, there’s your problem.
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I like to use soap, but that’s just me.
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Originally Posted by Laminar
Alternate title: "Environment News: The Last Straw"
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I use an Rtic thermal mug at work, with their stainless steel straw. It is easy to clean - the straw came in a 3-pack that included a tiny “bottle brush” for cleaning. The mug gets washed every day with dish soap and warm water, and the straw gets cleaned inside and out the same way.
I reuse the liter bottles that my local grocery chain’s flavored sparkling waters come in. They get washed out regularly too, until I’ve kept them around for a week or so. They get recycled after that.
I can’t help but think that if disposable plastic items were just “properly disposed of,” that would make a large part of the “plastic in the ocean” problem just go away. Of course the definition of “properly” is pretty complex. Ideally every polymer product should be segregated from trash and recycled in one way or another. Very few plastics aren’t somehow recyclable, and those could be used in alternate ways, like fill for geo textile products...
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We've just ordered some SS straws, hopefully they don't go missing at the jobsite.
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Originally Posted by And.reg
What do hotels do with their small bars of soap? It is impossible to use the entire thing and most hotels give you quite a bit. Very wasteful. I prefer hotels with the pump bottles full of soap.
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Originally Posted by mindwaves
What do hotels do with their small bars of soap? It is impossible to use the entire thing and most hotels give you quite a bit. Very wasteful. I prefer hotels with the pump bottles full of soap.
I routinely take the leftover liquid body wash, lotion, toothpaste, or mouthwash provided by hotels. It's been quite some time that I've actually had to purchase a "travel size" amount for any of these items.
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Crabs arent very common. So looks like we trade 1 environmental problem for another.
Reminds me of how a plant was discovered that produced easily recyclable cardboard material or something. The plant grows great in Madagascar. So Madagascar bulldozed rainforests putting countless species to extiction to make room for the agriculture of this plant. But at least it was in the name of saving the environment. It was great for Madagascar’s exports & economy. We now have easily recyclable packaging that no one bothers to recycle.
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I'm guessing they don't taste good enough.
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More like they are too small to bother cracking open. Apparently the broth is tasty.
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