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macnn2 · Jun 18, 2004, 08:09 AM

Has anybody been able to import the Velvet Revolver CD into itunes?

fiesta cat · Jun 18, 2004, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by macnn2:
Has anybody been able to import the Velvet Revolver CD into itunes?

There was an article today or yesterday on this on Slashdot, and it mentioned people complaining about not being able to import their CDs because of the copy protection.

That doesn't help you though, other than give you a heads-up that it is a big problem.

k_munic · Jun 18, 2004, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by macnn2:
Has anybody been able to import the Velvet Revolver CD into itunes?

buy it in the iTunes Musicstore

macnn2 · Jun 18, 2004, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by k_munic:
buy it in the iTunes Musicstore

Yeah I've thought about doing that but I decided awhile ago that I'd buy singles from iTunes but not albums. If I'm going to spend $10 I'd rather have uncompressed music (CD).

I've seen how you can disable the copy protection by pressing shift when you insert the CD but I think that's for PC's. I haven't found any information on Macs.

cnelson87 · Jun 18, 2004, 03:44 PM

I read that dvd-rom, dvd-r, and dvd-rw drives aren't affected by cd copy protection. Rip away!

Mark E · Jun 18, 2004, 05:34 PM

the album has been floating around bit torrent for weeks.. it would be easier just to download it. because you have the original CD, anyway, right? then you can use the mp3s instead of trying to rip from your own CD.

fair use!

Spheric Harlot · Jun 18, 2004, 08:09 PM

Make sure you return the disk when you're done in whichever way.

It's defective (since you were tricked into erroneously believing you were buying a CD, which it's not), and it's denying you your legal right to make a backup copy for personal use - such as an mp3 rip.

The only way those ****ers will ever get the message is if they don't sell their broken crap.

Though a copy-protected disk is currently on #1 in the US, I believe.

-s*

buddhabelly · Jun 20, 2004, 04:41 PM

I don't know what problems y'all had, but I ripped it the very night I bought it without a hitch. Used my TiBook 1ghz w/ Superdrive.

macnn2 · Jun 21, 2004, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by buddhabelly:
I don't know what problems y'all had, but I ripped it the very night I bought it without a hitch. Used my TiBook 1ghz w/ Superdrive.

That's all I was wanting to hear. I haven't bought it yet but I wanted to make sure I could rip it before I bought it.

Zoom · Nov 4, 2004, 10:39 PM

Okay, how come some people can rip this CD and others can't?? I can't!!

Randman · Nov 5, 2004, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by Mark E:
the album has been floating around bit torrent for weeks.. it would be easier just to download it. because you have the original CD, anyway, right? then you can use the mp3s instead of trying to rip from your own CD.

Yeah, just tell him to steal the disc the store next time, asshat.

Demonhood · Nov 5, 2004, 02:23 AM

no discussion of piracy please

k_munic · Nov 5, 2004, 04:16 AM

Originally posted by Zoom:
Okay, how come some people can rip this CD and others can't?? I can't!!

it simply depends on the drive you're using.

some people experience, that very old drives (I mean VERY old, SCSII connected) can "overread" lots of copy protections.

so, maybe, you have some old mac, you find some 68xxx software for doing mp3s (does it exist?) - and here you are

Zoom · Nov 5, 2004, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Demonhood:
no discussion of piracy please

This isn't about piracy. I HAVE the CD and I can't put it on my iPod. I don't want to "share it up", I want it for myself on my own Mac and iPod. If these copy protection schemes don't allow that, then they must be changed. This is blatantly disallowing my fair use.

Zoom · Nov 5, 2004, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by k_munic:
it simply depends on the drive you're using.

some people experience, that very old drives (I mean VERY old, SCSII connected) can "overread" lots of copy protections.

so, maybe, you have some old mac, you find some 68xxx software for doing mp3s (does it exist?) - and here you are

Hmmm. I don't think it's just older drives. I've seen a few Mac people say they can rip it with no problems, and they had newer Macs.

Randman · Nov 5, 2004, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by macnn2:
Yeah I've thought about doing that but I decided awhile ago that I'd buy singles from iTunes but not albums. If I'm going to spend $10 I'd rather have uncompressed music

But you'll be ripping it (and compressing it) when importing into your iPod.

Zoom · Nov 5, 2004, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by Randman:
But you'll be ripping it (and compressing it) when importing into your iPod.

But he'll own an uncompressed version that he can do with as he pleases, including use the Apple lossless format or some other format down the road, plus use it to make regular CDs for the car in uncompressed format, plus have a back up for archival purposes. I'm in the same camp. If a band is good enough to own the whole CD, I'll buy it and then rip it for the iPod - and then have both.

Question. When I rip a CD I own, does iTunes DRM the AAC files in any way? In particular, does this mean that I couldn't play that AAC file on another Mac or iPod?

Spheric Harlot · Nov 5, 2004, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Zoom:
Question. When I rip a CD I own, does iTunes DRM the AAC files in any way? In particular, does this mean that I couldn't play that AAC file on another Mac or iPod?

No. (God forbid)

Zoom · Nov 5, 2004, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
No. (God forbid)

"No" to the first question, I presume? Are you sure about that? If that were true, then people could swap AAC files on the net. (Maybe they do, but I haven't heard of it.)

buddhabelly · Nov 5, 2004, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Zoom:
"No" to the first question, I presume? Are you sure about that? If that were true, then people could swap AAC files on the net. (Maybe they do, but I haven't heard of it.)

DRM is only applied to purchased iTunes songs. I don't know what problems your having, I ripped my copy the day it came out using a Tibook w/ a superdrive. I'll give it a whirl on my G5 and see if it still works.

EDIT:Works fine on my G5 too.

grovberg · Nov 9, 2004, 05:03 PM

It's not perfect, but you can use Wiretap to "rerecord" the audio directly from your sound card. Audiophiles can tell the difference, but for most people this works extremely well. It's a pain to record each song, but it works.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/freebies/

-Grover

buddhabelly · Nov 12, 2004, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by grovberg:
It's not perfect, but you can use Wiretap to "rerecord" the audio directly from your sound card. Audiophiles can tell the difference, but for most people this works extremely well. It's a pain to record each song, but it works.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/freebies/

-Grover

Audiophiles can tell the difference between compressed and uncompressed and some between analog and digital on extremely high end systems.

Unless your using wiretap in a weird way, it is a direct digital copy to aif files that are uncompressed, which can be in turn be compressed using iTunes making aac files. No different than ripping it using iTunes.