[shortcipher]

thought we should probably have a thread devoted to listing apps which no longer work after 10.1.3 has been installed.

so, please post any new experiences/problems whatever and any fixes or workarounds you may have discovered.

Ill start with the weird Fetch 4.01 'cant-drag-and-drop' problem which Ive got on 2 G4s here at work

Also Word just lost a save dialog box, ie: It vanished before I could press cancel or OK, but left all the menus disabled, had to force quit Word before I could save the document again.

anyone else?

[V]

My G4 500 DP won't go to sleep alone anymore! NO he goes but the fan continue to spin.I have to send him manually (front tower button or sleep option in apple menu) and it takes several seconds (20-30) before he listen to me! Weird bug. Notice an overall slowdown too...

[MACALEX]

Originally posted by shortcipher:
<STRONG>thought we should probably have a thread devoted to listing apps which no longer work after 10.1.3 has been installed.

so, please post any new experiences/problems whatever and any fixes or workarounds you may have discovered.

Ill start with the weird Fetch 4.01 'cant-drag-and-drop' problem which Ive got on 2 G4s here at work

Also Word just lost a save dialog box, ie: It vanished before I could press cancel or OK, but left all the menus disabled, had to force quit Word before I could save the document again.

anyone else?</STRONG>

All what i could say is that MacOS X is dead for me, I am going back to 9.2.2. InDesign 2.0 doesn't work for me now under MacOS 10.1.3.
I've got sick of deleting Adobe Register database file and MS Office sucks because you have to close port if u use the same s/n on the local network.
I am going back to CLASSIC, because classic will be always classic.

[motti]

I also noticed delays when opening another partition, many delays when i click in menus. It's like all the experience(?) os x had is now lost. But dragging seems more fluid. Network init at start also takes much longer than before. I wish I hadn't installed this update...

[OldManMac]

Works fine for me! Burned two CDs last night in Toast, wrote a letter in Word, updated my exercise log in Excel, surfed the web on four different browsers (Internet Exploder, Netscape 6.2.1, Omniweb, and Mozilla, all open simultaneously), sent and received e-mail in Entourage, played a couple of games of Snood (in Classic), edited and printed a photo in Photoshop 7 beta, and just plain had a good evening! Did this on a G4/400 AGP, with 1GB RAM.

[ 02-21-2002: Message edited by: KarlG ]

[uPod-wePod]

On my dual 450 and 2 monitors (ATI and factory cards), DVD player quits saying configuration not supported - worked great under 10.1.2. Also, DVD player under 9.2.2 stopped working.
PRAM reset and fsck no help. Ideas?

[namannik]

iTunes refuses to play any of my MP3s. It just sits there stuck at the beginning of whatever track I try to start.

[namannik]

I dunno if this really was a 10.1.3 issue. A quick restart has solved the problem (for now, at least...)

[livemotion]

My classic apps which only run in classic ex dreamweaver, won't connect to the internet even though I'm connected in OSX via DSL. Has anyone had this problem before?

[Guy Incognito]

I think Audion 2.6.1 broke...can anyone confirm this? I only opened Audion once since 10.1.3 and as soon as I would push the play button I'd get the Spinning-Rainbow-CD-of-Death(tm) and would have to force-quit Audion.

[Don Pickett]

Originally posted by MACALEX:
<STRONG>

All what i could say is that MacOS X is dead for me, I am going back to 9.2.2. InDesign 2.0 doesn't work for me now under MacOS 10.1.3.
I've got sick of deleting Adobe Register database file and MS Office sucks because you have to close port if u use the same s/n on the local network.
I am going back to CLASSIC, because classic will be always classic.</STRONG>

That's casuse InDesign sucks and you need to buy another copy of Office. Not Apple's problems.

[nigeljedi]

I haven't had any problems, either. I've run iTunes, used my Zio! CompactFlash reader, used Appleworks 6.2.2...all without a hitch.
I haven't, however, tried much in Classic. I should be using Photoshop and Illustrator tonight, so we'll see.
::shrugs shoulders::

[KidRed]

It didn't break any for me.

[dillerX]

no, natta, nope.

I consider myself lucky though.

[Xeo]

VNC seems to have broken for me.

[brown monk]

I have a Verto GeForce 2MX 400 which replaced my Rage Pro...the update basically made my Verto board useless. I've found workarounds to get it to show more than just two resolutions (800x600 and 1024x768) but I still havent' been able to find a solution for the OpenGL problem....

So, to answer the question it broke everything that uses OpenGL. If you think dragging windows is somewhat sluggish now, imagine what it would be without any 3d accelaration (for those of you have it now)...Add Quake 3 and Wolfenstein to that list as well. Haven't tried much else but I'm sure Quake 2, Starcraft are gonners too...

(on a side note, since when do you need to have cookies on to log in??)

[ 02-21-2002: Message edited by: brown monk ]

[iSore]

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:
<STRONG>I think Audion 2.6.1 broke...can anyone confirm this? I only opened Audion once since 10.1.3 and as soon as I would push the play button I'd get the Spinning-Rainbow-CD-of-Death(tm) and would have to force-quit Audion.</STRONG>

Working here. Reinstall, perhaps?

[Jerommeke]

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:
<STRONG>I think Audion 2.6.1 broke...can anyone confirm this? I only opened Audion once since 10.1.3 and as soon as I would push the play button I'd get the Spinning-Rainbow-CD-of-Death(tm) and would have to force-quit Audion.</STRONG>

do you have a playlist open then?
are you connected to an idisk?

[axisdrama]

My date and time now only shows the military time in the menu bar? That's FUBAR!

[wataru]

Originally posted by axisdrama:
<STRONG>My date and time now only shows the military time in the menu bar? That's FUBAR! </STRONG>

At least you didn't post this to a new thread...
DO SOME RESEARCH. Do a search for military time in this forum and see what you get. This topic only comes up every week when someone is too lazy to just click the damn search link.

Same thing with DVD regions and hiding updates in Software Update.

As far as 10.1.3 problems go, nothing here besides Fetch drag and drop. The audio lag bug was only sort of fixed on my TiBook. Now instead of holding up the system, it just cuts off whatever audio comes before the speakers get going.

[wunderkind]

MS Word 2001 no longer works in Classsic as smoothly as it used to before 10.1.3 update. Now the menu bar keeps flashing or disappearing every few seconds. Very annoying.

Is there a conspiracy between Apple and MS to make people buy Office X?

[The Ancient One]

So far, everything I've tried works just fine, including Word 98.

[shadybirdstan]

Not a single problem.

[j3kyll]

Quake 3 is stuffed, it plays however the screen size and position are mangled... weird - same refresh rate 120.

[Sine]

No problems here.

[Moonie Johnson]

The Finder.

[raia]

yeah the finder is acting up for me too...

in column view, i keep getting all kinds of distortions, making the window larger for instance, causes all kidns of redraw problems that aren't easy to get rid of.

[Neilwhit]

Just tried Word 2001 in Classic. Worked fine, no menu bar problems. Office X works fine as well, as do most all other apps.

Do have the funny column view Finder probolems where it somehow resizes a single column all on its own. Can't determine when it is doing it, but its done it several times on 2 of my machines.

[Neo.cmg]

Upon restarting the computer (not something I do too often), the Finder window which I have set to column view does not remember it's position and reverts to icon view. Playing .mpg files in QuickTime has become more choppy as well.

Neo.cmg

[pilauh]

I think Dantz Retrospect Public Beta is dead now...

Arghhhh..... !!

too bad...

Steve ? stop playing with us... !

[VRL]

Originally posted by brown monk:
<STRONG> Haven't tried much else but I'm sure Quake 2, Starcraft are gonners too...


[ 02-21-2002: Message edited by: brown monk ]</STRONG>

Starcraft is fine

[RollTheBones]

Something that would be more interesting to know is...

How many of you that got problems with the update have "mocked" with their systems - used TinkerTool or similar apps or commandline hacks?

I haven�t had any problems whatsoever since I slammed OS X on top of 9 (same partition). No broken apps, no instability...
Well, actually, one thing happened after the 10.1.2 update:
Before the update I could run Webstar webserver (with Lasso Plug-in) and FileMaker in classic, and then test from browsers in OS X. That couldn't be done anymore since 10.1.2. Haven't tried it in 10.1.3 though....

TiPB 400 256MB

Cheers!

[krove]

Question for Moki: Does classic window buffering work in this version?

How nice would that be?

[pmoc]

SoundStick volume control doesn't work anymore on my PBG4. Sad.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by Xeo:
<STRONG>VNC seems to have broken for me.</STRONG>

Sorry, my mistake. It's not VNC. It's loginwindow. VNCserver is dependent on loginwindow being in a stable state... meaning it constantly respawning forces VNC to constantly respawn.

This is on an OS X Server machine that's running headless though. The errors in system.log seem to indicate it's looking for it's head and in not finding it, it's killing loginwindow and trying again--I think. I dunno, it's messed up, that's for sure.

Anyway, thanks 10.1.3. You're making my life easier.

[dark3lf]

QuickTime Player 5.0.2 no longer plays MPEG movies well, but it will play all other types without troubles. If I bring that same movie into a QT aware app (GraphicConverter) it will play just fine.

[Bruce O'Neal]

well x.1.3 fixed my ongoing sound problem after waking from sleep. i'm hooked. it also speeded up my system a bit. what is there not to like?

[livemotion]

Originally posted by livemotion:
<STRONG>My classic apps which only run in classic ex dreamweaver, won't connect to the internet even though I'm connected in OSX via DSL. Has anyone had this problem before?</STRONG>

Does anyone know of a fix for this problem. Its the only reason that I still boot back into OS9 whne wwanting to upload stuff to my site via Dreamweaver. Unfortunately, I can't connect to the internet under 9 even though I'm already connected in 10. Anyone?

[petej]

Originally posted by livemotion:
<STRONG>Does anyone know of a fix for this problem. Its the only reason that I still boot back into OS9 whne wwanting to upload stuff to my site via Dreamweaver. Unfortunately, I can't connect to the internet under 9 even though I'm already connected in 10. Anyone?</STRONG>

I'm not having this problem. I've got 10.1.3 on a beige G3/300 connected to an SDSL link through a router, and I'm uploading via FTP in GoLive running under Classic just fine. My Mac gets its IP address from DHCP, which is supplied by the SDSL router.

How are you connected to the DSL link? How is your Mac getting its IP address? Are you using passive FTP if its needed?

[iNub]

Limewire.

[livemotion]

I have verizon DSL. In OSX I've set up the DHCP prefernces in the network panel, on OS9 I need to alunch this little app i think its called macoep which connects to verzion. However whne I'm in OSX, launch classic, when I try to open that little up i get an error, but its still pointless for me to connect in classic if I'm already connected in 10. Shouldn't the connection just carry over?

[dcmacdaddy]

Like a previous poster. I can't put my dual USB iBook to sleep anymore. It never powers down and I have to perform a hard reboot (holding down the power button until it shuts down) to get the damn thing started again. It does seem "snappier" (window resizing is definitely faster for me) but I can't trust that it will go to sleep properly anymore. To the poster who quesitoned people "mocking" with their machines, this is a stock machine. No tinkering has been done other than changing a few folder icons.

For me 10.1.3 is a zero sum issue. I get better responsiveness but lose power management capability.

[jcadam]

The only thing I noticed was that I had to turn my burner down to 12x to avoid making coasters. It worked fine at 16x before.........

[petej]

Originally posted by livemotion:
<STRONG>I have verizon DSL. In OSX I've set up the DHCP prefernces in the network panel, on OS9 I need to alunch this little app i think its called macoep which connects to verzion. However whne I'm in OSX, launch classic, when I try to open that little up i get an error, but its still pointless for me to connect in classic if I'm already connected in 10. Shouldn't the connection just carry over?</STRONG>

Other people have experienced this problem, so you're not alone, but I can't find a resolution other than "It just started working!" It seems to be related to using PPP or PPPoE connections to the Internet -- Verizon DSL uses PPPoE. There seem to be two solutions that work reliably:

- Port Reflector, which you configure to reflect certain ports on localhost over to the PPPoE interface on the Mac OS X side (I haven't used this, so I can't give more details)

- an external DSL router (which I use), which allows your Mac to connect over a straight Ethernet connection, which Mac OS X shares with Classic reliably

Since this is an on-again-off-again problem, I'm guessing there's some other solution, but I don't know what it is. Try searching these forums, or searching the Apple discussion forums.

[krove]

Originally posted by namannik:
<STRONG>iTunes refuses to play any of my MP3s. It just sits there stuck at the beginning of whatever track I try to start.</STRONG>

I've noticed intermittent iTunes playing too. I'll try restarting, hoping it solves the issue. Adium also refuses to play incoming/outgoing IM sounds. Hmmm....

The 'Book sound problem is really annoying. Anyone tried that app that supposedly plays an inaudible sound all the time so that the sound hardware can't go to sleep (thereby eliminating sound cutoffs etc)? Curious...

[KellyHogan]

Sound after sleep is broken. No sound at all.

[GnOm]

no problems here at all.
ZiO works, Sound after sleep works, iTunes works, basically I don�t have any of the problems i�ve been reading about here or elsewhere.


bye.

[gunnar]

My Lacie 16x FireWire CDRW now only mounts at startup, no plug and play.

[Justin W. Williams]

Stuff that crashes like a m0f0 now:

iTunes
AOL Instant Messenger

Even after a restart, first time it loads. BAM. Unexpected quit.

Back to os9 for me.