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Aug 12, 2011, 04:28 PM
 
Yet another anti-gay Republican who is gay



"Come hither, oh young strappin' lad."

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Emails shared with The Indianapolis Star suggest that state Rep. Phillip Hinkle -- responding to a local posting on Craigslist -- offered a young man $80 plus tip to spend time with him Saturday night at the JW Marriott hotel.

The emails, sent from Hinkle's publicly listed personal address, ask the young man for "a couple hours of your time tonight" and offer him cash up front, with a tip of up to $50 or $60 "for a really good time."
     
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Aug 12, 2011, 04:38 PM
 
Or maybe bi.

Or maybe 23.3956% gay.
     
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Aug 12, 2011, 05:45 PM
 
Hmm... It seems he tried to bribe the young lad with an iPad to keep him quiet. Definitely gay.

Well maybe not. He tried to bribe him with a Blackberry too. Perhaps he's a closet Canadian?
     
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Aug 12, 2011, 09:52 PM
 
wow...
     
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Aug 12, 2011, 10:50 PM
 
Aren't the Republicans the ones who are always blathering on about personal responsibility for one's actions? At the end of the article, Hinkle allegedly states, "You just ruined me."

The moron ruined himself.
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Aug 12, 2011, 11:05 PM
 
Hmmm...

Teen behind lawmaker meeting speaks out

"It was not a set-up at all," Gibson said. "It was actually a joke."
He says it was a joke between him and his sister, with no cash for sex. But transcripts of their emails obtained by the Star show Gibson appearing to bargain with Hinkle over money.
"A couple hours of your time tonight," Hinkle wrote, allegedly offering a $60 tip "for a really good time."
Later, Hinkle confirmed the meeting plans.
"Looking forward to get-together. Will call you when leaving dinner and give you room number. You get downtown, I'll get you home. Deal?" the married lawmaker wrote.
"Deal. Don't stand me up," Gibson replied.
"I won't," wrote Hinkle.
What sounds like a cash-for-sex deal wasn't, says Gibson.
"I didn't want anything out of it. When I saw him, he was an older gentleman that was really old and I didn't want anything to do with that," Gibson told Eyewitness News.
But in the hotel, the representative exposed himself, Gibson said. Later, when the 18-year-old turned to leave, "He was like, 'You're not leaving 'til we do what we planned to do'."
     
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Aug 13, 2011, 12:57 AM
 
It'd be funny if there was a Democrat somewhere who was secretly in a straight relationship.
     
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Aug 13, 2011, 01:11 AM
 
Democrats: Fighting for the rights of closeted gay Republicans nationwide.
     
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Aug 13, 2011, 05:55 PM
 
Ok, someone explain the thread title to me.
     
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Aug 13, 2011, 06:41 PM
 
It's an acronym of the link title.
     
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Ah.
     
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Aug 14, 2011, 04:26 AM
 
Yet another anti-gay Republican which is gay.
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Aug 14, 2011, 02:49 PM
 
I think it telling that so many people are focusing on his being a Republican. As if that defines him.
     
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Aug 14, 2011, 04:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
I think it telling that so many people are focusing on his being a Republican. As if that defines him.
It does when that's part of his job; he's a Republican representative, who supposedly represents Republican people and their viewpoints.
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Aug 14, 2011, 04:37 PM
 
Just read the story. Sounds like a setup to me, possibly a load of BS.
Meaning to tell me that a bloke who did it for a joke actually turned up to the hotel? And once there, couldn't leave because a bloke in his 60s was physically restraining him? And a state rep known for being anti-gay is going to do something like this in a public hotel? No. BS.
And where's there's BS, there's usually more BS.
Smells like a smear action to me.
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Aug 14, 2011, 04:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
I think it telling that so many people are focusing on his being a Republican.
Seeing as that's where a good portion of the irony lies, I'd find it telling if someone tried not to focus on it.
     
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Aug 14, 2011, 04:51 PM
 
Why not focus on his being gay? Perhaps that is where his identity lies.

Seems like this has more to do with him being gay than anything else. Seems like that is the commonality with him and other hypocritical failed politicians lies.

In other words, do you guys consider him open to ridicule because he is a republican, gay, or a hypocrite?
     
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
Why not focus on his being gay? Perhaps that is where his identity lies.

Seems like this has more to do with him being gay than anything else. Seems like that is the commonality with him and other hypocritical failed politicians lies.

In other words, do you guys consider him open to ridicule because he is a republican, gay, or a hypocrite?
All three. Republicans are the so-called small government folks, yet they're the most interested in keeping gays from getting married, which is counter to said principles (it's government intrusion, if one has to spell it out). It's patently obvious that he's a hypocrite, and there's no doubt in my mind that he's a gay one.
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Aug 14, 2011, 05:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
Why not focus on his being gay? Perhaps that is where his identity lies.

Seems like this has more to do with him being gay than anything else. Seems like that is the commonality with him and other hypocritical failed politicians lies.

In other words, do you guys consider him open to ridicule because he is a republican, gay, or a hypocrite?
Shoulda been a poll.

I vote hypocrite.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Shoulda been a poll.

I vote hypocrite.
You have my permission to start a poll thread. But please, make it public.
     
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
I think it telling that so many people are focusing on his being a Republican. As if that defines him.
Uh, that's politics. You choose party with the idea that people can quickly assume various things about you based on that identifier.
     
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
In other words, do you guys consider him open to ridicule because he is a republican, gay, or a hypocrite?
You can't be serious.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Uh, that's politics. You choose party with the idea that people can quickly assume various things about you based on that identifier.
Well, it's shallowness. And a case of some on the Left thinking it's all black & white in the world of politics, which is often what they accuse the Right of, which is hypocrisy in itself.

If the story is true, I really feel for the man's wife and family. Yet another gay person destroying the lives of people who trusted him.
     
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You can't be serious.
     
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
If the story is true, I really feel for the man's wife and family. Yet another gay person destroying the lives of people who trusted him.
A perfect 10/10 troll score.
     
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You don't feel for the man's wife and family if the story is true?
     
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Originally Posted by lpkmckenna View Post
A perfect 10/10 troll score.
How's that trolling? Looks like conversation to me.
Is this a new tactic from the left? Call anything you don't agree with "trolling" so you don't have to bother getting into a conversation and being proven wrong?
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
Well, it's shallowness.
I believe I already said it's politics. No need to repeat me.

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If the story is true, I really feel for the man's wife and family. Yet another gay person destroying the lives of people who trusted him.
A timely reminder of how difficult it is to get honest discourse in the PL.
     
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Ha ha, Railroader got banned.
     
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Ha ha, Railroader got banned.
     
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But I actually laughed out loud! However, I've realized now it has nothing to do with this thread.
     
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
If the story is true, I really feel for the man's wife and family. Yet another gay person destroying the lives of people who trusted him.
Hilarious comment. (Coming from someone who who's went through two married-gay-man-with-kids-finally-comes-out-at-50 episodes; no relation, but friends nonetheless.)

Ignoring the fact that this phenomenon is of course hardly confined to "gay persons", the fact that you've blamed it on the "gay person" is, of course, actually not shocking at all. Never mind that a "gay person" growing up 40-odd years ago wasn't allowed to be gay, in many areas, because of the stringent and physical application of The Rules that you adhere to, in so few closeted words. Never mind that they couldn't openly live with their "preferred partner" unless they wanted to face daily ridicule - and, if you had your way, they still couldn't get married, at the church or town hall or otherwise.

So when a "gay person" marries the perfect wife and makes the perfect kids because to do anything else would probably have meant ridicule, excommunication from family and friends, and a life spent struggling in some way or another against the vast majority of people you meet...well hello, guess who gets the blame when he strays off The Path, openly or otherwise?

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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
Ignoring the fact that this phenomenon is of course hardly confined to "gay persons", the fact that you've blamed it on the "gay person" is, of course, actually not shocking at all.
He doth protest too much, methinks.

BTW, as I was hinting above in my second post, I find it odd that some feel that people must be either 100% gay or 100% straight, so that a man that marries a woman and has kids but then comes out of the closet was 100% gay in the first place but just married that woman to conform to society. I'm not specifically referring to you ShortcutToMoncton, but your post did get me thinking about it again.

I just wonder why some people (gay or straight) just cannot fathom the fact that maybe a man who left his wife for a man, is an adulterous guy who just happens to go both ways. Or maybe his wife was a psycho and he wanted out of the marriage anyway, and happened to find a caring and understanding man as the new life partner. Furthermore, there are lots of people who leave gay/lesbian relationships and then go into hetero ones and live happily ever after with the picket fence and several kids.

I do admit though that my first post as worded does perpetuate that 100% myth though.
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
a case of some on the Left thinking it's all black & white in the world of politics, which is often what they accuse the Right of, which is hypocrisy in itself.
Yawn.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Originally Posted by Eug View Post
I just wonder why some people (gay or straight) just cannot fathom the fact that maybe a man who left his wife for a man, is an adulterous guy who just happens to go both ways. Or maybe his wife was a psycho and he wanted out of the marriage anyway, and happened to find a caring and understanding man as the new life partner. Furthermore, there are lots of people who leave gay/lesbian relationships and then go into hetero ones and live happily ever after with the picket fence and several kids.
As I understand it there is a certain stigma among the gay community when it comes to being bi. I have heard it said that there is no such thing as bi, just people who aren't entirely comfortable being 100% gay.

I could be entirely wrong though. I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse when it comes to this sort of thing.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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As I understand it there is a certain stigma among the gay community when it comes to being bi. I have heard it said that there is no such thing as bi, just people who aren't entirely comfortable being 100% gay.
Yes, from what I understand too there is such a stigma, but it's also quite closeminded and obnoxious IMHO. Furthermore, the scientific community has moved beyond this sort of limited thinking a long time ago. The prevailing theory is that we are all on a gradient. And it's not as if the scientific community has always been the pioneers in inclusiveness in this regard either. I guess one problem is that the popular media in its own ever misguided way reinforces these oversimplified stereotypes in its desire to appear progressive.

It's ironic that in 2011, someone who is bi (which this Republican may very well be), might feel ashamed for admitting that in gay company.
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Aug 30, 2011, 06:54 PM
 
Anti-gay GOP official resigns after posting bare-assed pix on gay hook-up site

AFP: Puerto Rico senator quits after gay photo scandal

In recent days local media had reported that Arango had published several nude photos on Grindr, a gay and bisexual hook-up application for mobile phones.

Arango initially dismissed the allegations as "nonsense," but later told WAPA television: "I don't remember taking these photos, but that does not mean I did not take them."

He added that he had taken several pictures of himself recently to see the effects of a diet.

Arango was known for his strong backing of "Resolution 99," which seeks to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.
     
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Originally Posted by Eug View Post
He added that he had taken several pictures of himself recently to see the effects of a diet.
I think this was an episode of Three's Company.
     
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Ha ha, Railroader got banned.
Did he get banned for the statement in this thread?
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Did he get banned for the statement in this thread?
No.
     
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He added that he had taken several pictures of himself recently to see the effects of a diet.
I didn't realize one of the photos is actually of his anus.
     
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Indeed. I've only seen one pic… heavily edited of course to hide the unmentionables. He's kneeling with his assets "facing" the mirror while he's snapping a photo… to assess the results of his diet, as it were.
     
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It's an interesting tactic.

Before I saw the picture, I assumed the basis of this is where the photos ended up, and not that they were some form of truly pornographic content. My thought process being the photos had to be at least nominally consistent with the cover-up. In that sense you could consider the tactic successful. One would also presume that was what he was aiming for.

Of course, once you see the picture, the tactic sorta explodes all over his face. If I wasn't in the mood to try and get inside his diabolical thought process, I'd just write the guy off as hopelessly dim.
     
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Sep 2, 2011, 11:27 PM
 
There's a pretty simple "best practice" for these situations which politicians never seem to get.

When you hugely screw up and are discovered, make the next thing you do, whatever that may be, the right thing to do. If you do that, there's light at the end if the tunnel.

With this guy, we have pictures of what his tunnel looks like... HELLO!
     
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It does when that's part of his job; he's a Republican representative, who supposedly represents Republican people and their viewpoints.
Not all Repubs have those views, and not all Dems are tolerant of gays... so, there's really nothing to this, is there?
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But I actually laughed out loud! However, I've realized now it has nothing to do with this thread.
You're celebrating RR getting banned? As a person, do you really suck that much?
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Not all Repubs have those views, and not all Dems are tolerant of gays... so, there's really nothing to this, is there?
You're right, in that not all persons of either persuasions have those views, but it is the Republicans, particularly those on the far right with extreme religious views, who have been most vocal about being anti-gay, while at the same time being exposed for the hypocrites that they are, by being caught with their pants down, who have been newsworthy in the last few years. So there is something to this.

The hypocrisy is further compounded by the Republicans constantly blathering on about being the champions of getting government out of peoples' lives, yet they're also the ones who want to enact further legislation to insure that gay people can't marry. Sadly, few people are intelligent enough to catch the dichotomy.
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Originally Posted by OldManMac View Post
You're right, in that not all persons of either persuasions have those views, but it is the Republicans, particularly those on the far right with extreme religious views, who have been most vocal about being anti-gay, while at the same time being exposed for the hypocrites that they are, by being caught with their pants down, who have been newsworthy in the last few years. So there is something to this.

The hypocrisy is further compounded by the Republicans constantly blathering on about being the champions of getting government out of peoples' lives, yet they're also the ones who want to enact further legislation to insure that gay people can't marry. Sadly, few people are intelligent enough to catch the dichotomy.
What if the gay Republicans understand better than straight liberals that their homosexuality is the product of a mental phenomena developed through psycho-social/environmental factors they don't feel constitute a specified, protected class of people any more than alcoholism? Maybe you can tolerate people without always having to grant them some meaningless status to appease phobias of other kinds.

Maybe there are straight Republicans who are able to view this issue without the zealotry of atheism and partisan shilling. Or maybe none of this is as black or white as you think.
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