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suprz's ghost
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Dec 8, 2005, 04:38 PM
 
By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the
entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.


If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.
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Dec 8, 2005, 04:41 PM
 
Wrong forum champ.

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Dec 8, 2005, 04:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dark Helmet
Wrong forum champ.
Sometimes I think you should be a mod. You pretty much live here AND you're snarky.
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Dec 8, 2005, 04:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by invisibleX
Sometimes I think you should be a mod. You pretty much live here AND you're snarky.
First of, with 403 posts, he hardly lives here.

Second, he's right with his assessment.

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Dec 8, 2005, 04:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
First of, with 403 posts, he hardly lives here.

Second, he's right with his assessment.

-t
Dude, it's SWF (in case you didn't know).


`nuff said.
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Dec 8, 2005, 04:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by invisibleX
Sometimes I think you should be a mod. You pretty much live here AND you're snarky.

Thanks but NOOOOOO thank you.

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Dec 8, 2005, 04:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by MacNStein
Dude, it's SWF (in case you didn't know).
`nuff said.
Nah, I've been gone for a couple of weeks (in case you didn't know).

Ah well, so SWG has another nick. Whatever.

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Dec 8, 2005, 04:56 PM
 
Rush Limbaugh!



Can't help laugh when I here the drug addicts name.
     
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Dec 8, 2005, 05:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by Rolling Bones
Rush Limbaugh!



Can't help laugh when I here the drug addicts name.
Just because he is/was addicted to drugs does not invalidate his points.
Just because he is a right-wing gasbag does not invalidate his points.

If Michael Moore said the same thing it would be just as valid even though
the remark would be coming then from a left-wing gasbag.

And he is right. Our government should greatly increase the death benefits
to surviving family members of a soldier killed in action. Politicians love to
talk about soldier's and their ultimate sacrifice, let's show our appreciation
for that sacrifice to those they left here.

I would like to see some kind of scholarship program for children of
active duty military killed in action. It would still have to be merit-based--
you would need good grades and financial hardship to qualify--but if
you did the government would guarantee a certain amount of money per
year for four years of an undergraduate college degree. The important
part of this being that the pool of funds would be available ONLY to those
children of parents killed while on active duty in the military.
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Dec 8, 2005, 05:09 PM
 
Yeah... wrong forum.
     
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Dec 8, 2005, 05:17 PM
 
To a degree, he has a point. I mean, why are those people getting compensated for? Did our government actually fail at something?
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Dec 8, 2005, 05:25 PM
 
I think this is the first intelligent thing this fat tard has said.

Of course, I don't think he really cares. He's only saying it to distance himself from Bush without actually admitting that Bush isn't God.
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Dec 8, 2005, 05:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy
Just because he is/was addicted to drugs does not invalidate his points.
Just because he is a right-wing gasbag does not invalidate his points.

If Michael Moore said the same thing it would be just as valid even though
the remark would be coming then from a left-wing gasbag.
Agreed.
     
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Dec 8, 2005, 09:18 PM
 
I personally think this is scandalous: and how much did Saddam Hussein gave to families of terrorists?

As much as I disagree with military actions, people dying in the line of duties should not be devaluated for actions that put their lives on the line.

However, I also agree that victims of terrorist attack should be provided compensation, whnever it is fit.

Getting OBL should allow usage of all his money for compensation for the victims.

My 2 cents.
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Dec 8, 2005, 09:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by suprz's ghost
Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?
No.

Too bad the blokes in power for the last 5 years haven't decided to do anything about it.

It's probably my biggest beef with the people running things.

Am I the only one who feels betrayed by this? Whatever you want to say about Reagan, he took care of the military.
     
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Dec 9, 2005, 12:17 AM
 
Limbaugh sounds like a Democrat there, at least in terms of military personnel benefits. I'm not sure if there's any relevance in making a comparison to families of 9/11 victims though. Obviously that was a unique event.
     
   
 
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