[Greenland is for toy dogs]

Well, 10.1.5 froze on me yesterday. To be honest, it was just the finder that crashed, and it was as a result of an OS9 app falling over (I've crashed the classic environment about 10 times in the last three months). Anyway, a relaunch finder command didn't work, so I had to logout. Technically then, the OS did not go down.

Also had a nice experience a while back - booted in OS9 to play Deus Ex, power ran out as the game was saving and the system shut down. Booted up to the flashing ? system folder icon.

Rebooted holding down X. End of problem.

Anyone else care to comment on how (in)frequently they've crashed OSX, if ever?

[stew]

Sure it crashed - there is no such thing as a crash-free OS. A reliable way to crash my iBook is pluggin in/out the AV-Cable when the iBook is in sleep mode.

[trash80]

yes it crashed for me last night, when it was trying (and failing) to burn a CD. still can't burn a CD, i think i'll just have to wait till i get a new mac before i go OSX permanently. it just doesn't work on my H/W, anyone else have problems burning CDs on X with a Lacie USB CD/RW??

it also crashed earlier that night when i was trying different extensions setups in classic.

i ain't gonna be getting jaguar , had OSX since PB and it can't replace 9 for me yet. when i buy a new Mac next year it'll have jag (or whatever its up to then) on it, and i'll try that again <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

[JKT]

I've had about 6 or 7 hard crashes* (requiring a reboot) since I first installed 10.0 back when it first came out. The majority of these have been caused by a WindowServer or SystemUIServer crash.

* This doesn't include all the interminable freezes I suffered due to the notorious PPP-induced hangs prior to 10.1.3(??). The machine would eventually recover from them if left long enough (1 hour plus being the longest!), so I don't count them as hard crashes as I didn't reboot.

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[JKT]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by trash80:
<strong>yes it crashed for me last night, when it was trying (and failing) to burn a CD. still can't burn a CD, i think i'll just have to wait till i get a new mac before i go OSX permanently. it just doesn't work on my H/W, anyone else have problems burning CDs on X with a Lacie USB CD/RW??
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Let me guess, it is a LaCie 4x4x6x USB burner, model CR-4804TE (from Apple system profiler) and it gives you an Error -6 as it is finalising the disk? It then hangs the Finder (btw, if you leave it a while it will recover). Also, it hardly ever gets recognised when you switch it on the first time and requires you to go through a song and dance routine to get the thing visible to the OS?

This is a "supported" drive btw. It has never worked for me and several others (search Apple Support discussion forums for LaCie, USB and burner).

FWIW, my LaCie Firewire burner worked a treat.

[trash80]

i think thats the drive, actually the whole mac crashed after i tried to cancel the burning. finder went down and just hung the whole system, couldn't even get a terminal window open.

i suppose the CD/RWs built into Macs these days work ok <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

[losta]

Yesterday I was ripping music from CD's to put on my iPod in iTunes3. When I was selecting individual songs OS X 10.1.5 crashed several times(hung) after a few songs. I changed to ripping entire cd and had no problems Anyone else experience this?

[morgan]

i've had maybe 5 or 6 at most since the public beta where i actually saw the crazy black and white text requiring a reboot. I've had a few in games (MoH and RTCW) that caused me to reboot, but I'm not sure the OS was dead, just that the game locked up and couldn't get out of it.

I switched to OSX full time at work about a month ago (whenever PS7 and studio mx came out) and I haven't looked back. No crashes yet...

[Vanquish]

iPhoto Slideshow and a Kernel Panic every 1 to 3 days

'nuff said.

[KaptainKaya]

Kernel Panic in 10.1.5 on a B&W G3 when tranferring music from my Dual Gig G4, also with 10.1.5. So I thought hey, I wonder if 10.2 fixes this. Installed it on both machines to no avail...the G3 still KP's when transferring files. Its odd because I transferred some games and everything inside my home directory before sending the music (about 2GB). If there is a limit on transferring over a network, I must have missed it. Its frustrating to know that 10.2 (well, as of 6C106) still doesnt fix it (and yes, I know 10.2 isn't final, but its damn well close to it).

[Gul Banana]

I've had OS X crashes. But honestly, I can't remember them. Back in days of pre-10.1, and before I got my system as nicely configured as it is these days, I had a few hardish (some fixable via ssh) crashes and even a kernel panic or two. These days, though, it's the most stable OS I've ever used. Not ever programs crash on me, since I don't use unstable ones. To summarise, it r0xx0rs my b0xx0rs.

[Nonsuch]

I've never had a kernel panic. The worst that's happened is a game (Alice) will lock up and I can't bring up the Force Quit dialogue, so needed a hard restart. Other than that, this OS is a rock.

[chris v]

I've had 5 or 6 KP's on my Cube, all Peripheral-related. Also, a pretty fair assortment of freezes, hags, beachballs, etc. It's pretty well smoothed out, though since 10.1.4. Escapepod has been a lifesaver, too.

I set up my Dual Gig tower on about the 25th of April, and it has yet to even teeter, wobble or veer, much less crash. This thing has been the Rock of Gibralter for over three months. The only problem I can recall is that Classic hangs on startup when I use the "Advanced" tab to open the extensions manager to change sets when I launch Classic. It does this when booted in OS 9, too, (spacebar+startup) so that doesn't count.

Sum total of Console crash logs:

Preiview, 1 crash.
Mozilla, 2 crashes.
Finder, 1 crash.
Photoshop, 3 crashes.
Console, 1 crash.

Not too shabby for 3+ months of use.

CV

[Ron Goodman]

Never a kernel panic since the Public Beta, but I have had a couple of GUI freezes.

[nat]

had my first panic ever on bootup just 2 days ago 10.1.5. restarted and no problems since. don't know what caused it but was first start of the day right after getting home from work.

[snerdini]

Huh? What's a colonel panic?

[villalobos]

Reproducible too.... Whenever the screensaver takes over and the Demo from RTCW is on. Kernel Panic, every time, with all kind of neats undecipherable stuff about my video card. Understandable though, it was just a preview demo.

villalobos

[Angus_D]

Originally posted by villalobos:
Kernel Panic, every time, with all kind of neats undecipherable stuff about my video card. Understandable though, it was just a preview demo.

Not really. Userland software shouldn't be able to crash the kernel. File a bug anyway.

Oh, and I was getting panics the other week when OS X started refusing to mount my / partition. Something was severely screwed. Had to reformat, fun fun fun!

[JRT]

Wow, I am surprised to read anout all these OS X crashes. I started using X with 10.1 when it first came out (so I avoided all the real early stuff) on my TiBook and G4. I use both machines every day and have never has an OS crash. I've had to force quit applications fairly regularly but not the OS.

One note... I restart these machines at the begininng of the day, a hold over from the OS 9 days I guess and I don't have the "days since reboot" OCD
I wonder if this expains my experience...

[Xeo]

Sure I've had crashes. I can't tell you when the last one was though. However, I am pleased to report that my MUG's OS X Server which handles our e-mail and web has just reached a 60 day uptime.

[OreoCookie]

The GUI crashes every once in a while (unable to click something, I restart), but a real kernel panic, maybe three or four times since the public beta.

I don't have a second computer at hand, then I could ssh in and kill the processes manually, but the computer is frozen nevertheless.

10.1.4 was ok, but at least on my iBook, 10.1.5 is significantly worse than any previous (official) release as far as stability is concerned.

[wataru]

I had one KP on my beige G3/300 under 10.0.x. I don't remember why.

I get a good number of app crashes under 10.1.5 on my rev. B TiBook, but no KP's. Although the other day I got an OS 9-style crash where I just couldn't do anything but move the mouse--I couldn't switch apps, I couldn't force quit, and dock magnification didn't respond. I rebooted and, lo and behold, OS X was broken. It just hangs at the happy mac, or, if I do a single-user boot, it hangs at a certain place in the text.

I've seen the same thing happen to a late-model CRT iMac. A reinstall solved the problem. I'll try that as soon as my TiBook comes back from having its FireWire port repaired.

[rlmorel]

My mac is ROCK solid performing under very heavy loads and usage. However, I have a recurring problem when I use my VPN client to access my PC at work. About 1 out of every 5 or 10 times I use it, I get a hard freeze when I quit the VPN client. The whole computer just freezes up like a block of friggin ice. If it weren't for that (and having to reboot on occasion because of my crappy, barely supported Epson 900) My mac would probably have an uptime measured in months. And I use a lot of apps, Photoshop, Illustrator, Final Cut Pro, Office, etc.

[Macola]

Very occasional KP (none since 10.1.3. Relatively frequent Finder lockups, >95% of which are related to Firewire problems (on my TiBook/400). Anyone know if Jag-wire has improved Firewire implementation?

[Simon]

I have been running OS X since public beta and have never ever seen a kernel panic. The system has also never frozen on me. I have seen the eternal spinning rainbow cursor twice (once ion the Finder, once in OW). When it happened I got mad for not having a second Mac at home. I was betting that I could have logged in through ssh and killed the login session thus getting my machine back to normal operation.
I also believe that most KPs or strange instabilities people see with the system result from hardware issues (connections, drivers, 3rd party betas).

I have the impression that OS X is rock solid and that there are many apps around using the system's power with almost no glitches. When I hear friends at work talk about their NT support problems it always makes me very deeply happy to be a Mac user.

[Simon]

Just after pressing the submit button one issue came to my mind.

I have two FireWire devices attached to my Mac. Sometimes I put back a disk volume and when it disappears from the Finder I turn off the FireWire disk. Every once in a while I then get the spinning rainbow cursor until I trun the device back on.

The partition doesn't remount automatically so I have to unplug and plug back the FireWire cable. The disk mounts. I put it away again and then turn off the drive once more. This normally does the job. It's a strange bug. Maybe Apple has already worked it out in Jaguar.

[derekn]

For awhile I was having about 3-6 KPs a day, thought my system was dying or something (Beige G3). It was all my fault though. Since the Public Beta, I've upgraded everything besides the DVD, everything else has been replaced and I've added two PCI cards. Not once after those upgrades did I hit the reset button. LOL Opened the system up, hit it, I've had ZERO problems ever since. X is a real pleasure to use now, no worries or anything of a KP.

[MrNo]

I haven't had a crash on my iBook since December 2001. I had IE crashed so many times, then I switched to OW and now everything is great. Well Real Player quits once in a while, but that's still beta.