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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Wah wah wah, the big mean man huwt my feewings. Whine to someone else, I ain't buying it. The president sends your wife off to a war that, by most objective observers' accounts, has distracted us from the war on terrorism and significantly decreased our national security, and not only doesn't bother to pay for it but also cuts billions out of our budgets for tax cuts on those who need it least, and you're "offended" by some dumb politician's off-the-cuff comment? Yeah right. Try your political correctness out on someone else.
I don't have a wife, it's my husband and he's the smartest man I've ever known. Nothing some idiot poster on a message board or horse faced, self-serving politician can ever say will ever shake the admiration I have for him and all the other patriotic, brave, and highly intelligent service members in our military. The "distraction from the war on terror" has prevented another terrorist attack on US soil, or do you believe in the moonbat theory that the terrorists just haven't felt much like attacking the U.S. in the last 5 years?

BTW, since Kerry is too stupid to pull off a 'Bush is a moron' joke from a scripted speech written for him and what he was supposed to say to the students is that they should study hard and get good grades because if they don't, they might get us into Iraq like Bush did (Right)...........I guess he is also too stupid to realize that those that get bad grades and don't study usually end up on welfare and vote for Democrats.
     
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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post


Let's not forget Hillary Clinton's feigned outrage too. Classic!

Well, lets just all be glad that he only insulted the military and not Islam or there would be a whole lot more Democrats feigning outrage. We would be seeing effigies of Horse face being burned and stomped on by the seethers and the liberals would be demanding apologies. Boxes of the Massachusett state flag would be on order for burning and random acts of violence would have been committed by now. Yes, thank God it was just our real men with a real sense of humor that when insulted, just turn around and use it to make the rest of us laugh.
     
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Looks like I only have to register once and won't have to again unless I change home address. Nice.
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Iraqi PM hands Sadr victory over US blockade
Iraqi Shiite militants have won a major political victory when Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered US and Iraqi units to lift a blockade around the flashpoint Baghdad suburb of Sadr City.

American commanders believe Shiite gunmen may be holding a kidnapped US soldier in the east Baghdad slum and since last week their troops have been maintaining a cordon of checkpoints and roadblocks around the area.
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kerry's "joke" was all clinton's fault
     
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A large proportion of people who enter the military are doing so to get an education. I think the joke, though pretty damn stupid, is that if you don't get college over with, you'll end up with no money and join the military as a "free" way to get money for college.
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olePigeon,

The Republicans aren't concern with the truth, the realities.
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Originally Posted by Face Ache View Post
This was predictable and necessary. But how Malicki goes from here will tell us how strong he is and how committed he is to freedom. He HAS to break with America to be respected and accepted by the Iraqi people, especially the hard core nationalists.

Once he draws HIS line in the sand the pudgy one will have to show HIS colors. Sadr should be allowed to maintain his power base as long as he shows that he can control them and bears allegiance to the Central government and to democratic flavored Islamic rule.

We have been WAITING for this moment. And you see that we accepted his direction.

This was a sign of progress.
     
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olePigeon,

The Republicans aren't concern with the truth, the realities.

Sure we are. The truth is that there is nothing wrong with questioning policy decisions regarding the war, even in the time of war. It is however, extremely irresponsible to insult the Commander in Cheif on a personal level that berates his intelligence, based on his decision to send our military into war. I don't personally believe that Kerry really meant the "joke" to be about Bush. If he did, why did it take 2 days for the unbotched version to be made public? However, even if we entertain the idea that it was about Bush, Kerry is still a scumbag.

Plenty of people join the military as a way to earn money for college and learn a skill. There is nothing wrong with that. However, that alone is a pretty poor motivator by itself to persuade people to go risk death and disability when there are far easier ways to earn money for college in America.

Berating the intelligence of the military's Commander in Cheif during time of war, when the basis for doing so is that he sent the military to war, is an underhanded way of demoralizing the military. Even though the incentive of earning money for college is attractive, it is not enough to attract those who only want a free ride. It is attractive to those who do want to better themselves but also love their country and want to serve it in return.

What do you think it does to the morale of an 18 or 19 year old servicemember that not only wants to earn money for college but that is also full of patriotism and desire to defend his country, to hear that his Commander in Cheif is stupid for sending him to war? It's damn hard for someone to be brave enough to go and risk their life for a cause they believe in, much less go risk their life and health for what they are being told is a lost cause, perpetrated by some stupid, incompetent President.

I would bet money that if the Democrats win the house and Senate next week and the Presidency in 08, we will need to bring back the draft because people will stop volunteering. Heck, valet parking at a casino in Vegas pays $600 a week-end. That's more college money than the GI bill pays out a month for those that sign up and pay their share of the cost. The Democrats must want to bring back the draft a lot sooner than later and I hope the type of snobby college kids that laughed at Kerry's "joke" because they are looking for a reason to feel superior to those out fighting to keep them free to be snobbish A**holes, get drafted.
     
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Originally Posted by DLQ2006 View Post
I don't have a wife, it's my husband and he's the smartest man I've ever known. Nothing some idiot poster on a message board or horse faced, self-serving politician can ever say will ever shake the admiration I have for him and all the other patriotic, brave, and highly intelligent service members in our military. The "distraction from the war on terror" has prevented another terrorist attack on US soil, or do you believe in the moonbat theory that the terrorists just haven't felt much like attacking the U.S. in the last 5 years?

BTW, since Kerry is too stupid to pull off a 'Bush is a moron' joke from a scripted speech written for him and what he was supposed to say to the students is that they should study hard and get good grades because if they don't, they might get us into Iraq like Bush did (Right)...........I guess he is also too stupid to realize that those that get bad grades and don't study usually end up on welfare and vote for Democrats.

The irony is, these generalizations are pretty stupid. For starters, you'll probably find that the vast majority of those on welfare don't vote at all.
     
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Originally Posted by DLQ2006 View Post
What do you think it does to the morale of an 18 or 19 year old servicemember that not only wants to earn money for college but that is also full of patriotism and desire to defend his country, to hear that his Commander in Cheif is stupid for sending him to war? It's damn hard for someone to be brave enough to go and risk their life for a cause they believe in, much less go risk their life and health for what they are being told is a lost cause, perpetrated by some stupid, incompetent President.
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Originally Posted by DLQ2006 View Post
I guess he is also too stupid to realize that those that get bad grades and don't study usually end up on welfare and vote for Democrats.
Maybe the irony in it all is the people who get offended when generalizations are made regarding the military are glad to make generalizations about those on welfare and Democrats.
     
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No, not all, itai95. Just one or two.

But Kerry did the right thing finally.

Statement of Senator John Kerry

As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.

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I think he erred in still referring to it as a joke, and I think he erred in making his last paragraph divert attention from his apology into blaming Republicans: Republicans didn't make him say these remarks. Kerry is not a Rovian-puppet-on-a-string.

But it's finally something I could call a real apology. Do I think he means it? No. But at least he finally said the right thing.
     
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Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
A large proportion of people who enter the military are doing so to get an education. I think the joke, though pretty damn stupid, is that if you don't get college over with, you'll end up with no money and join the military as a "free" way to get money for college.
I did. And got a flying ticket. And a CS degree. And a home loan.

Kerry is an ass.
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Kerry is now a footnote in the collapse of the domocratic party.

He himself admitted to committing atrocities to the likes of Gengis Khan.

And he's the hero of the left?

Now THAT is frightening.
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Nov 2, 2006, 09:50 AM
 
He shouldn't have made this mistake, his comments were an embarrassment to himself and his party, this much is clear.

But let's not carry this on as if we just can't go on because our sensibilities were so offended. This seems quite clearly to me a mistake, and I feel that blowing it out of proportion and dramatizing it at this point is simply political opportunism.

Perhaps you can argue that all politicians and parties are into this sort of kick-the-person-when-he-is-down opportunism, but it is a shame that things have come to this. This thread has very quickly become a Cody Dawg-style rant-about-the-horrible-atrocities-a-celebrity-has-committed thread.

Perhaps my timing is just off and things will change now that the apology has been publicized, I don't know...
     
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Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
Kerry is now a footnote in the collapse of the domocratic party.

He himself admitted to committing atrocities to the likes of Gengis Khan.

And he's the hero of the left?

Now THAT is frightening.


Gengis Khan??? Wow.... Just... wow..... especially wow after just finishing my last post and having this affirmed.

Actually, let's blow this thing out of proportion... it's actually fun to do when taken light heartedly...


John Kerry is a despicable human being who should be kicked out of the senate for looking like a horse, and for entering the consciousness of all children who have parents or loved ones fighting for our freedoms and liberties. Won't somebody think of these children?
     
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Obviously by telling troops and thier families that the statement was about them in an effort to stir up rage....Bush is the one who thinks they're stupid. And anyone who genuinely falls for it probably is.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Gengis Khan??? Wow.... Just... wow..... especially wow after just finishing my last post and having this affirmed.

Actually, let's blow this thing out of proportion... it's actually fun to do when taken light heartedly...


John Kerry is a despicable human being who should be kicked out of the senate for looking like a horse, and for entering the consciousness of all children who have parents or loved ones fighting for our freedoms and liberties. Won't somebody think of these children?
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Obviously by telling troops and thier families that the statement was about them in an effort to stir up rage....Bush is the one who thinks they're stupid. And anyone who genuinely falls for it probably is.
Actually that is incorrect. I think the problem with Kerry's statements is his habitual nature of making blanket indictments about his comrades in the past. It was most difficult for people to believe he wasn't simply slandering the military yet again.

The fact is, this couldn't have happened to a better man. He's using vitriol to insult the President of the US and karma reared to bite him in his a$$. I'm hoping he'll learn soon enough that this style of discourse is just unacceptable on a host of levels. I'm hoping his party recognizes it as well and that the opposition can follow suit.

The problem with the statement was;

- Bush's GPA was higher than Kerry's.
- Kerry supported ousting Saddam Hussein and I believe is calling for augmented deployment.
- long history of slandering the military
- the statement itself left no wiggle room for discernment. i.e. it would be difficult to extrapolate anything other than what was simply stated.

That said, I accept his apology and believe he was trying to slander the President, not the troops. Is this somehow more acceptable? No, but at least it's a bit more predictable and less destructive to the tone of the entire Democratic party than blatant non-support of our troops.
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Gengis Khan??? Wow.... Just... wow..... especially wow after just finishing my last post and having this affirmed.
Those were Kerry's words, not mine.

He actually testified to the senate that he committed atrocities to the likes of, how he pronounced it, Jenjis Khan.

He ADMITTED to slaughtering innocents, raping, pillaging and generally destroying villages because he could.


He's used to being never held accountable, so imagine his surprise that he is now.
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All he had to do what shut up for 1 week, thats all the dems had to do... hahahaha
     
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Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
Those were Kerry's words, not mine.

He actually testified to the senate that he committed atrocities to the likes of, how he pronounced it, Jenjis Khan.

He ADMITTED to slaughtering innocents, raping, pillaging and generally destroying villages because he could.


He's used to being never held accountable, so imagine his surprise that he is now.


Oh... I thought *you* were comparing Kerry to Khan simply because of his remark (the atrocity)
     
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bush/republicans are too dumb to know that it was a stab at bush.

anyone volunteering to go to iraq is dumb. without a draft, u can only get the bottom of the barrel
Another person out of touch with reality.

Plenty of top notch people over there willingly.

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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post

The problem with the statement was;

- Bush's GPA was higher than Kerry's.
- Kerry supported ousting Saddam Hussein and I believe is calling for augmented deployment.
- long history of slandering the military
- the statement itself left no wiggle room for discernment. i.e. it would be difficult to extrapolate anything other than what was simply stated.

I was thinking much the same thing. It is interesting that Kerry only seems to appeal to people that care as little about facts as he does. But then, he was sent to Cambodia by President Nixon in 1968!
     
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I agree. We should keep this information strictly between ourselves.
Wrong again. We should question policy decisions of leaders in a responsible way, not in an underhanded way meant only to demoralize the very people that are doing a job they were sent to do.
     
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Statement of Senator John Kerry

As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.
I appreciate the Senator recognizing the fact that he had upset some people and wording his apology (until the last paragraph) pretty much as I would have. (Except "any troop" – I've always thought of "troops" in plural and "troop" sounds really silly to me. I would have gone with something more like "any member of our armed forces or the armed forces in general.")

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I think he erred in still referring to it as a joke, and I think he erred in making his last paragraph divert attention from his apology into blaming Republicans: Republicans didn't make him say these remarks. Kerry is not a Rovian-puppet-on-a-string.

But it's finally something I could call a real apology. Do I think he means it? No. But at least he finally said the right thing.
Agreed, the last paragraph is a silly way to try to save face. The Republicans are just as happy to discuss real issues as Democrats. Which is to say they both distort what the other is doing or believes.

Republicans say: Democrats are against keeping our nation safe.

The truth: Nobody would be against national security. The Democrats just want to do things in a different way. They put a greater premium on a liberal interpretation of civil liberties.

Democrats say: Republicans want to privatize social security.

The truth: The GOP doesn't want to privatize it. They want to give those who put their hard-earned money into it an opportunity to take some of what they are putting into Social Security and invest it. Not ALL of it.

Truth is, people need to start realizing that most of us have common goals, just a different way of achieving them. And until we realize that, we're going to continue to devolve into two very noisy groups at the far end of the spectrum, pointing fingers while the bulk of us in the middle just try to not get our eyes poked out.
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Of course not, but the very, very tight election results would indicate that he wasn't a horrible candidate (your "Democrats wanted to lose"/"total nitwit" remark)
I think you missed the point. Democrats should have been able to easily beat Bush in '04. But they picked what has to be the most unlikable candidate possible, and easily one of the few people on earth at the time who would be guaranteed to lose to Bush, whose own approval ratings were in the crapper. I think it's fair to speculate they actually wanted to lose with such a rotten choice.
     
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He shouldn't have made this mistake, his comments were an embarrassment to himself and his party, this much is clear.

But let's not carry this on as if we just can't go on because our sensibilities were so offended. This seems quite clearly to me a mistake, and I feel that blowing it out of proportion and dramatizing it at this point is simply political opportunism.

Perhaps you can argue that all politicians and parties are into this sort of kick-the-person-when-he-is-down opportunism, but it is a shame that things have come to this. This thread has very quickly become a Cody Dawg-style rant-about-the-horrible-atrocities-a-celebrity-has-committed thread.

Perhaps my timing is just off and things will change now that the apology has been publicized, I don't know...

1) He's been given the benefit of the doubt for over 30 years.
2) He lied before congress and said that the troops in Vietnam were cutting off heads, hooking up electric wires to genitals and turning up the power, shooting randomly at civilians, raping women, pillaging all of Southern Vietnam, ect, ect. On top of this, he met with the enemy in France while the war was still going on and said such things while POW's were still in the Hanoi Hilton having the **** beat out of them.
3) This was NOT an apology. He is still pointing the finger for his own words and his words were of somone preaching to the Choir, thinking he could get away with it.
4) His original "botched joke" had about 8 of the words "you" before the jab about ending up in Iraq. One would think that by the time he was on his 5th or 6th "you", he would have realized that he wasn't talking about "us", which is the word they've now changed it to.
5) Kerry is not a CELEBRITY. He is a lead Jackass. The Lead Jackasses need to be held accountable where celebrities are expected to be stupid, naive, shallow, and self-serving.
6) He stated that the military is going in, in the dark of the night to terrrorize women and children.

You want to feel sorry for Kerry as if he's being kicked while down, well he is the one that has inflicted his own psychotic melt down. Just like the other horse face, Al Gore, losing to GW has caused him to lose his mind. I do not feel one bit sorry for him as he has inflicted much worse pain on those that didn't deserve it and who have sacrificed far more than he ever has. He is the narcisistic, elitist opportunist. I'm just glad Presidents are limited to 2 terms because I don't think I could stand watching one more hound faced Jackass lose their mind after losing to Bush.
     
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First question, why are people so surprised about what he said regarding Iraq?

Wasn't he against the war to start with?

That does not make him an anti-American to be against a conflict with no end and no usefulness.

This is not a Presidential year, and he is not about to win another run for the presidency.

Funny, people (right wing) criticize Hillary Clinton because she supported the war at the beginning and now Kerry because he is against it.

In the end it will have no bearings on the Democrats taking the house back. The Republicans are grasping at straws.
     
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First question, why are people so surprised about what he said regarding Iraq?
Wasn't he against the war to start with?
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I find it amazing that with the amount of panties that get in a twist over a sentence that we can actually function as a country anymore, it is really quite stunning.

Back to your non-sensical bickering, I'm sure both Repubs and Dems are right on this issue, as always
     
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Originally Posted by Monique View Post
First question, why are people so surprised about what he said regarding Iraq?

Wasn't he against the war to start with?
Actually, no. When Congress voted on whether or not to authorize the President to go to war (an unusual move but not unprecedented), it was almost unanimous: only one person in either house voted against it, and it wasn't Kerry.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to change his mind; he does, just as anyone else does. I'm just trying to keep the record straight.
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1) He's been given the benefit of the doubt for over 30 years.
2) He lied before congress and said that the troops in Vietnam were cutting off heads, hooking up electric wires to genitals and turning up the power, shooting randomly at civilians, raping women, pillaging all of Southern Vietnam, ect, ect. On top of this, he met with the enemy in France while the war was still going on and said such things while POW's were still in the Hanoi Hilton having the **** beat out of them.
3) This was NOT an apology. He is still pointing the finger for his own words and his words were of somone preaching to the Choir, thinking he could get away with it.
4) His original "botched joke" had about 8 of the words "you" before the jab about ending up in Iraq. One would think that by the time he was on his 5th or 6th "you", he would have realized that he wasn't talking about "us", which is the word they've now changed it to.
5) Kerry is not a CELEBRITY. He is a lead Jackass. The Lead Jackasses need to be held accountable where celebrities are expected to be stupid, naive, shallow, and self-serving.
6) He stated that the military is going in, in the dark of the night to terrrorize women and children.

You want to feel sorry for Kerry as if he's being kicked while down, well he is the one that has inflicted his own psychotic melt down. Just like the other horse face, Al Gore, losing to GW has caused him to lose his mind. I do not feel one bit sorry for him as he has inflicted much worse pain on those that didn't deserve it and who have sacrificed far more than he ever has. He is the narcisistic, elitist opportunist. I'm just glad Presidents are limited to 2 terms because I don't think I could stand watching one more hound faced Jackass lose their mind after losing to Bush.


No offense, but your distraction-style debate tactics are pretty transparent.

Kerry's integrity or personal record is not what is being debated here, his single statement and the merits and implications of his statement alone are.

I don't care about Kerry, I'm not interested in defending his character. Maybe somebody else here might be, I don't know...

My point was basically that statements like this always seem like fodder for political opportunism, which is a shame. The way some people carry on in here, you'd think he molested a little girl or something.
     
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Actually, no. When Congress voted on whether or not to authorize the President to go to war (an unusual move but not unprecedented), it was almost unanimous: only one person in either house voted against it, and it wasn't Kerry.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to change his mind; he does, just as anyone else does. I'm just trying to keep the record straight.
He and many other dems only changed their mind right before election time.

It was obvious it was a joint effort. They all seemed to do it at the same time, all had the same mantra and quotes etc.

So it's not really him changing his mind that pissed people off. It was the REASONS he was doing it.
     
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No offense, but your distraction-style debate tactics are pretty transparent.

Kerry's integrity or personal record is not what is being debated here, his single statement and the merits and implications of his statement alone are.
It's not a distraction tactic.


It's to establish the pattern of his behavior so blatantly ignored by the leftist AmericaHating™ Kerry fanclub.
Shut up and eat your paisley.
     
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The irony is, these generalizations are pretty stupid. For starters, you'll probably find that the vast majority of those on welfare don't vote at all.

Hence, all the get out the vote drives the Democrats do to make it easier for those too lazy to even go vote. That along with registering dead people and illegals is a critical part of getting the vote for their party. When their not too busy scaring old people into believing the Republicans will cut off their medicare and SS that is.
     
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Maybe the irony in it all is the people who get offended when generalizations are made regarding the military are glad to make generalizations about those on welfare and Democrats.

It is fair play to criticize elements of the Democratic party, as they bring it on themselves. It is also fair play to criticize elements of those on welfare, as many of them are in the circumstances they are in because of their own doing and the rest of us have to suffer for their poor choices in life. Do you honestly believe it is ever fair game to imply that EVEN ONE of those guys over in Iraq is some kind of Dolt because he's over there doing the job that KERRY HIMSELF VOTED IN FAVOR OF sending him over to do? Can you really not see the difference?
     
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Sweet, I found this.

Kerry's '72 Army Comments Mirror Latest
By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer
4 hours ago

WASHINGTON - During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to "the perpetuation of war crimes."

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In 1972, as he ran for the House, he was less apologetic in his comments about the merits of a volunteer army. He declared in the questionnaire that he opposed the draft but considered a volunteer army "a greater anathema."

"I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown," Kerry wrote. "We must not repeat the travesty of the inequities present during Vietnam. I also fear having a professional army that views the perpetuation of war crimes as simply 'doing its job.'

"Equally as important, a volunteer army with our present constitutional crisis takes accountability away from the president and put the people further from control over military activities," he wrote.


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Kerry filled out the candidate questionnaire at the request of Massachusetts Political Action for Peace, an anti-war group that decades later turned over its historical documents to university researchers.

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Do you honestly believe it is ever fair game to imply that EVEN ONE of those guys over in Iraq is some kind of Dolt because he's over there doing the job that KERRY HIMSELF VOTED IN FAVOR OF sending him over to do? Can you really not see the difference?
No, I don't see the difference -- neither one is fair game. How is it any better to say that Democrats and those on welfare are uneducated, than to say that soldiers are uneducated?

BTW, there are women in the military and in Iraq too, aren't there?
     
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John Kerry is a despicable human being who should be kicked out of the senate for looking like a horse, and for entering the consciousness of all children who have parents or loved ones fighting for our freedoms and liberties. Won't somebody think of these children?
No, He should not be re-elected because he has the two qualities necessary for all moonbats. He is stupid and he is arrogant. This should be an embarrassement to the state of Massachusetts, but then they do keep re-electing the drunk that left a girl to die as he left the scene of his crime.

The fact that he looks like a hound dog just doesn't help his cause any. What should be even more embarrassing to the people of Massachusetts is that this is their guy who they bragged about as having such fine oratory skills compared to that redneck Bush.

Their sophisticated orator can't even pull off a Bush is so stupid joke that any wet behind the ears, gulible, anti-war peacenic, liberal arts major, snob in their freshmen year could pull off at his/her first gathering of hippie wanna-bes coming together to bask in each others poetry and talk about how rednecks are too stupid to get the nuance of their jokes and understand their erudite sophistication.
     
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Wow DLQ for someone so easily offended yourself you sure are full of the insults. You really believe you are so superior to all those losers in Massachusetts and San Francisco and New York, don't you?
     
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Originally Posted by itai195 View Post
No, I don't see the difference -- neither one is fair game. How is it any better to say that Democrats and those on welfare are uneducated, than to say that soldiers are uneducated?

BTW, there are women in the military and in Iraq too, aren't there?
You don't see how many of the leaders of the Jackass Party bring on their own well deserved criticisms? You don't see how many on welfare deserve to be criticized for decisions they've made that led to them being on welfare? And you really don't understand that the men AND WOMEN who in Iraq are just doing the job that they were sent to do? A job Kerry voted in favor of them doing and was for before he was against it?

If I have generalized about Democrats and about those on welfare, then I chose my words poorly and should have clarified that not all Democrats are Jackasses and not all of those on Welfare are so because of their own doing. Many out there run into hard times for no fault of their own and deserve assistance to get back on their feet. I also should have taken the time in that post to include women. I usually write him/her, servicemembers, ect to include both but sometimes get into a hurry because I'm getting ready to leave the house or do something. Yes, I know women who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan and they are true heros as much as any of the men over there are.
     
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It's not a distraction tactic.


It's to establish the pattern of his behavior so blatantly ignored by the leftist AmericaHating™ Kerry fanclub.

I wish my parodies were as sharp as yours! Nicely done...
     
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Wow DLQ for someone so easily offended yourself you sure are full of the insults. You really believe you are so superior to all those losers in Massachusetts and San Francisco and New York, don't you?
No, just not nearly as misguided and full of denial as those that keep voting for Kerry and kennedy. And I'm not easily offended myself. What I find offensive and outrageous is that a prominant leader of the Democratic party who came close to becoming our President, has been able to avoid accountability and responsibility for his vile lies and distortions of the military for over 30 years.

Typical liberal crap: Democrats can never be held accountable while a Republican that may or may not have said the "N" word 35 years ago should step down immediately and it is talked about in the news ad nauseum. It amazes me how the liberals circle the wagons to defend a Democrat. That they will not question why Kerry has refused to sign a paper releasing his military records but will so willingly believe fraudulant documents regarding Bush's military record even after he has allowed his military records to be released to the public. The hyocrisy is unbelievable.
     
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^^ are you from the south as well?
     
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I did. And got a flying ticket. And a CS degree. And a home loan.

Kerry is an ass.
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Typical liberal crap: Democrats can never be held accountable while a Republican that may or may not have said the "N" word 35 years ago should step down immediately and it is talked about in the news ad nauseum. It amazes me how the liberals circle the wagons to defend a Democrat. That they will not question why Kerry has refused to sign a paper releasing his military records but will so willingly believe fraudulant documents regarding Bush's military record even after he has allowed his military records to be released to the public. The hyocrisy is unbelievable.
*pssst* I'll let you in on a little secret. Republicans do it, too. But don't tell anyone!
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Bitter Republican: "Can you believe those snobby, elitist, murdering, lying, hypocritical, communist, sex-mongering, terrorist-loving, pedophile-protecting Democrats insult people so much!"
     
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No, He should not be re-elected because he has the two qualities necessary for all moonbats. He is stupid and he is arrogant. This should be an embarrassement to the state of Massachusetts, but then they do keep re-electing the drunk that left a girl to die as he left the scene of his crime.

The fact that he looks like a hound dog just doesn't help his cause any. What should be even more embarrassing to the people of Massachusetts is that this is their guy who they bragged about as having such fine oratory skills compared to that redneck Bush.

Their sophisticated orator can't even pull off a Bush is so stupid joke that any wet behind the ears, gulible, anti-war peacenic, liberal arts major, snob in their freshmen year could pull off at his/her first gathering of hippie wanna-bes coming together to bask in each others poetry and talk about how rednecks are too stupid to get the nuance of their jokes and understand their erudite sophistication.
Up to your neck in quicksand and hurling abuse all the way down. It's sad, but it's also very ****ing hilarious.


Hey where did Simey go?
     
 
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