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P · Nov 19, 2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by reader50

I still hate that "feature", it requires one to manually mark-posts-read on every single visit. And you have to click through a confirm dialog each time. It does make more sense for mobile users surfing in spare time.

It also makes sense for modding - if I get a mail about a reported post, I can jump in and delete it without feeling the need to read everything.

OreoCookie · Nov 19, 2012, 03:38 PM

Personally, I'm in reader's camp, I hate this feature with a vengeance, but I'd prefer to keep this as an option. What's infuriating is when a third party (Huddler) makes that decision for you.

reader50 · Nov 24, 2012, 10:59 PM

Status update.

User account import script: done
Post import script: done
Thread import script: done
Sync script for related fields in Users, Posts, Threads: done
Poll import script: done
PM import script: done
Attachments import script: done
Attachments storage: done
A few vB tweaks: done
Ye olde ampersand issue: fixed for real
Staff beta testing: in progress

Spheric Harlot · Nov 25, 2012, 02:56 AM

besson3c · Nov 25, 2012, 12:38 PM

Awesome work Reader!

Since you are already making a few vB tweaks, how would you feel about installing something like Bootstrap (http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap, http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#responsive) or the YUI CSS Reset/Fonts/Grids in prep for the templates being updated to be responsive? For now you wouldn't have to do anything but try including the CSS and see what effect it has. You'll probably want to eventually incorporate a tool like this anyway, maybe it makes sense to toy with installing it now?

subego · Nov 29, 2012, 10:39 AM

Stogieman · Nov 29, 2012, 11:30 AM

on the new mobile version of the forums. Good job guys.

Stogieman · Nov 29, 2012, 11:38 AM

How do you add smilie icons or change the font color with the mobile version? 😳

ajprice · Nov 29, 2012, 01:06 PM

Not sure how long it's been active but I like the mobile site. Footer still says Huddler, so will the mobile site be staying?

reader50 · Nov 29, 2012, 05:20 PM

Huddler got their mobile stuff into play shortly after we won our escape. We'll have to find (or hack up) a mobile theme for vB.

I can't take any credit for the mobile theme, but the PM import script is working as of last night. I've edited the status post above.

turtle777 · Dec 1, 2012, 08:38 AM

I have got to admit, the mobile site is pretty good, one of the best mobile forums I have seen.

Kudos to Huddler, seems like they are not completely useless.

-t

subego · Dec 5, 2012, 02:45 PM

Is there a "jump to end of thread" button I'm missing?

Currawong · Dec 6, 2012, 07:21 PM

I'd still consider giving Huddler more time. They have (albeit slowly) added features we've asked for and using the tools they've designed, spam is almost down to zero on a forum with up to 3000 posts a day.

It's rather like the times you convert a friend to using a Mac from Windows and they keep wanting it to behave like Windows does. Or, back when people moved to OSX and would get frustrated it didn't behave exactly the same as OS9 did.

Spheric Harlot · Dec 6, 2012, 09:30 PM

I don't know at what times you're online. Spam is worse by a factor of five than it's ever been.

Edit: 14 out of the 50 /newposts threads are currently spam.

The ****ing online movie spammers apparently go through Huddler's roster and spam every one of their forums to death, and now we've got the stolen credit card sales assholes, as well.

In addition to the occasional Prada, sports shoe, smartphone, and investment sales people that we had before.

2nd edit: 16.

ajprice · Dec 7, 2012, 02:12 AM

+1 for the spam topics, they're everywhere!

reader50 · Dec 7, 2012, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Currawong

I'd still consider giving Huddler more time. They have (albeit slowly) added features we've asked for and using the tools they've designed, spam is almost down to zero on a forum with up to 3000 posts a day.

... Or, back when people moved to OSX and would get frustrated it didn't behave exactly the same as OS9 did.

Thank you, our Moderators are the spam protection here.

Conversion coding resumed - I spent the last few evenings fixing a friend's Mac.

And I still miss pop-up folders. The Control Strip was handy too, but I miss the folders more.

ajprice · Dec 8, 2012, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by ajprice

+1 for the spam topics, they're everywhere!

Logged in and found Recent Discussions 8/10 as spam

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Just saying...

Edit: It's now 10/10 spam

besson3c · Dec 8, 2012, 10:27 AM

Isn't there an Akismet vBulletin plugin?

Currawong · Dec 9, 2012, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

I don't know at what times you're online. Spam is worse by a factor of five than it's ever been.

Edit: 14 out of the 50 /newposts threads are currently spam.

The ****ing online movie spammers apparently go through Huddler's roster and spam every one of their forums to death, and now we've got the stolen credit card sales assholes, as well.

In addition to the occasional Prada, sports shoe, smartphone, and investment sales people that we had before.

2nd edit: 16.

The forum I run has up to 3k posts per day and very few of them are spam now. If the admins here want suggestions on how to use the features in Huddler to deal with spam (even while they wait to convert back to VB) they are welcome contact me.

reader50 · Dec 9, 2012, 10:37 AM

Attachments are proving a headache. The filenames didn't match those in the DB dump. So I assumed they'd randomized the filenames and spent a few evenings writing a custom matching script. To match the images based on unique filesize and extension. Which gave only one false match - image dimensions did not match those listed in the DB.

It turns out they gave us 1 GB of someone else's forum images. Specifically: www.mommysavers.com

Kudos to Thorz for suggesting image search to figure out where they came from. They are heavily toy-themed. Lots of miniatures, lego, muppets. I should've done a quick look and figured it out - we usually post more computer-related images here.

Spheric Harlot · Dec 9, 2012, 05:17 PM

The Final Dakar · Dec 10, 2012, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

I don't know at what times you're online. Spam is worse by a factor of five than it's ever been.

It is a travesty and underscores how dead this place is.

I was considering starting a thread last week commenting on how the spammers seem to always make three threads somewhere between 8 and 10 am EST everyday, but I see my Lounge brethren are on top of things.

I suppose this is Huddler's fault and in that case this is one of Huddler's worst features.

subego · Dec 10, 2012, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

+1.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2012, 07:47 AM

What happened? Did I miss the 9am spam serving or did it never arrive?

Spheric Harlot · Dec 11, 2012, 01:55 PM

You missed It.

Also, the Credit spam is there now.

The Final Dakar · Dec 12, 2012, 05:45 AM

Mmm.

At least I caught this morning's shift.

Right on time.

P · Dec 12, 2012, 11:27 AM

When I view the Mac Desktops forum, 3 of the last 25 threads are at least initially legitimate. The other 22 are deleted due to spam (and thus hidden from you).

subego · Dec 14, 2012, 06:20 AM

Can you show us plebs a screengrab of that?

Spheric Harlot · Dec 14, 2012, 06:49 AM

Why? Just look at the /newposts page at around 9:35 a.m. CET every morning (there's several waves a day). Same impression.

Thorzdad · Dec 14, 2012, 07:04 AM

You should see the number of spammers we catch before or immediately after they manage to post. Moderating this place could be a full-time job now, thanks to the continual, un-checked spammage.

subego · Dec 14, 2012, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

Why? Just look at the /newposts page at around 9:35 a.m. CET every morning (there's several waves a day). Same impression.

But we can choose not to scroll down, they can't.

We need to feel their pain, if only for a fleeting moment.

subego · Dec 14, 2012, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Thorzdad

You should see the number of spammers we catch before or immediately after they manage to post. Moderating this place could be a full-time job now, thanks to the continual, un-checked spammage.

Would you surmise the change in rate is an effect of the fourms being linked to the comments?

Thorzdad · Dec 14, 2012, 07:16 AM

Perhaps, in terms of heightened visibility. However, I believe the increase is primarily due to a lack of robust up-front filtering. And that's all I will say on that topic.

subego · Dec 14, 2012, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Thorzdad

And that's all I will say on that topic.

Okay, I'll say it.

Huddler sucks donkey balls.

reader50 · Dec 14, 2012, 09:25 AM

Status update.

Attachments are sorted. I've updated the beta site (up to Nov 6), and staff are poking around it for bugs. We're adding member invites as well, again for bug hunting.

Appearance or functional bugs are interesting, but they're more likely in the imported data:
• user accounts
• posts
• threads
• polls
• PMs
• attached images
• NewsPoster posts should appear as full HTML

subego, Ω, spheric harlot - look for a PM.

note: Huddler uses a different password hashing scheme than vB, so I couldn't sync back changes. You'll still have your old pass under vB. All new users under Huddler will need to reset PW when we migrate back.

reader50 · Dec 14, 2012, 11:55 PM

If anyone wants to look for bugs, post here. Any of the admins can grant access. admission not guaranteed

We're mostly looking for broken content that wasn't converted properly. It looks good, but extra eyes can be helpful.

Ω · Dec 15, 2012, 01:07 AM

Not sure if this is relevant but at the moment I can only see stickies for the different forums.

Ω

Spheric Harlot · Dec 15, 2012, 01:17 AM

I think it's because the latest threads are from over a month ago.

Ω · Dec 15, 2012, 01:42 AM

Makes it a little hard to test the system then. You can still access the last post thread though. You can also still read the archive threads.

Thorzdad · Dec 15, 2012, 04:54 AM

Just re-set the viewing preferences at the bottom of the forum page. Set it for something like "last 100 days".

reader50 · Dec 15, 2012, 09:52 AM

It took me a month to build the importers for the remaining data using free time. Sorry about that.

Thorzdad has the right answer.

Ω · Dec 15, 2012, 11:38 AM

Never noticed that before. All good.

Spheric Harlot · Dec 16, 2012, 07:09 AM

Wow. 69 threads in a row, from 3 spammers. Must be a record.

Thorzdad · Dec 16, 2012, 08:06 AM

It's really gone crazy in the past couple of weeks. If it were up to me, I'd block all of Vietnam (where most of the credit card spam is coming from)

reader50 · Dec 16, 2012, 08:28 AM

Done. Got a few other hotbeds too.

We're close enough to vB, where we can fine-tune around the guilty parties to let the innocent through.

Thorzdad · Dec 16, 2012, 09:29 AM

imitchellg5 · Dec 17, 2012, 07:51 PM

I'm so excited!

reader50 · Jan 1, 2013, 09:30 AM

We have a return date. The forums are scheduled to go down this Friday afternoon (Pacific: GMT-8).

Conversion is expected to take more than one evening, so the forums should come back up Sunday or Monday morning. I'll post some status updates on the Forums Closed placeholder page during the conversion.

It's been a long road, but we're finally on the home stretch.

subego · Jan 1, 2013, 05:41 PM

You've basically put Humpty-Dumpty back together.

No small achievement there.

chris v · Jan 3, 2013, 05:09 AM

Good luck, we're all counting on you.