[bendable frank]

I think posting under more than one nick is a deplorable thing.

[dreilly1]

But there's only one Nick here, and IIRC he's kinda important....

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by bendable frank

I think posting under more than one nick is a deplorable thing.

Only if you are trying to hide behind another.

[xi_hyperon]

Originally Posted by KevinK

Only if you are trying to hide behind another.

Well, who would do that? I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by xi_hyperon

Well, who would do that?

You are kidding me

Can anyone say "ankle brains" ?

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.

Yeah, the point was made.

We are just goofing about now.

[Stradlater]

Originally Posted by turtle777

Yep, be assured, I DO KNOW for a fact he's not.

Zimpi would be never so stupid to have hardcore pron appear here. But that's another story...

-t

Isn't the KevinK sig pron? You know, with the pubis and the toy.

[Kevin]

Pubs? OH MY!

Is that what those are.. . :o

[xi_hyperon]

Originally Posted by KevinK

You are kidding me

Can anyone say "ankle brains" ?

Yeah, I know. I made that comment in jest.

[zizban]

Originally Posted by bendable frank

I think posting under more than one nick is a deplorable thing.

really, sparky, it's only a message board

[scaught]

Originally Posted by KevinK

Thanks for making that great contribution to this thread.

We can now rest peacefully knowing that scaught contributed to this thread.

BTW, who are you?

hhahhahaha

[ManOfSteal]

Originally Posted by KevinK

Can anyone say "ankle brains" ?

That dude was a bad-ass.

[Kevin]

I heard he liked wearing his grandma's underwear.

On his head.

[ManOfSteal]

Originally Posted by KevinK

I heard he liked wearing his grandma's underwear.

On his head.

Why?

[Kevin]

Why did I hear that?

[ManOfSteal]

Originally Posted by KevinK

Why did I hear that?

Who?

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Zimphire

Yes, I got banned for being bad before.

I PURPOSELY posted in that forum under said nick and didn't break the rules FOR A REASON.

It was a piss poor excuse and Demon knows it.

No, I was already banned and punished for that already.

I guess Demon decided I needed more punishment.

It's just not a handful of "whiners" now, I've spoken with a few mods that this rubbed them the wrong way as well.

People have been complaining about this for years. Only to fall on deaf ears.

I know people make mistakes.

But the part about making mistakes, is owning up to them.

The people who own NN is lucky I didn't keep my mouth shut, and just let those who wanted to (And could and get away with it) DDOS MacNN into oblivion.

It came --> <-- that close from happening today. And it wouldn't be hard considering NN is on it's last leg now.

I pleaded and begged them and talked them out of it. I explained that people do make mistakes and to just wait it out and see what happens.

Well we saw what happens.

If anything happens to NN, I was not apart of it.

*washes hands*

I gotta agree you didnt break a single rule I was iching to find a reason to report you after you reported me and just couldnt find a single post and I looked at well over a 100 of them to do it too. Was kinda fustrating actually

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[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Athens

I gotta agree you didnt break a single rule I was iching to find a reason to report you after you reported me and just couldnt find a single post and I looked at well over a 100 of them to do it too. Was kinda fustrating actually

Wow thanks Athens.

You just gained a ton of respect from me to admit that.

Seriously.

Honesty brings respect.

If I upset you when trying to accomplish this ordeal, I sincerely apologize.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by bendable frank

I think posting under more than one nick is a deplorable thing.

Do we debate issues or personalities?

If we debate issues, then the civility rules and the current way civility is enforced makes sense and having multiple nicks is irrelevant.

If we debate personalities, then the civility rules simply function to permit someone besides the two willing participants involved in an argument to govern the conduct of the exchange and because that third party is impervious to appeals by the two participants then having an extra nick is a necessary thing.

Why do you care bf?

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Wow thanks Athens.

You just gained a ton of respect from me to admit that.

Seriously.

Honesty brings respect.

If I upset you when trying to accomplish this ordeal, I sincerely apologize.

Apology accepted, I actually couldn't understand it at first because before you seemed to be reasonable and then in the last little while, especially under KevinK you just changed all of a sudden. I always had respect for you because most of the time your posts where reasonable and hard to argue with. Differences of opinions are what makes the world go round LOL could you imagine if every one thought alike, how boring this place would be. Anyways nice experiment and for the couple of nasty things I said to you, I to apologize.

[Athens]

On the topic of Mods, I have always been a firm believer that Mods should not be active participants on discussions because of the problem of bias. That is even more true on politic. When I use to run a politics forum a couple years ago I kept my Administrator account as just that to administrate and had a regular use account for discussion. The main reason I did this was to keep the admin account respectable so that users would respect it as that.

[goturtle]

Originally Posted by bendable frank

I think posting under more than one nick is a deplorable thing.

Seconded.

-t

[Randman]

Originally Posted by goturtle

Seconded.

-t

Hmm, it was kinda cute the first 20 new names or same. Sadly, you're No. 21.

[ManOfSteal]

Originally Posted by Randman

Hmm, it was kinda cute the first 20 new names or same. Sadly, you're No. 21.

Exactly, and nobody can touch the original...

[Kevin]

Nor shouldn't without medical gloves and vaccination shots.

[ManOfSteal]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Nor shouldn't without medical gloves and vaccination shots.

...and $100 bills.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Athens

On the topic of Mods, I have always been a firm believer that Mods should not be active participants on discussions because of the problem of bias. That is even more true on politic. When I use to run a politics forum a couple years ago I kept my Administrator account as just that to administrate and had a regular use account for discussion. The main reason I did this was to keep the admin account respectable so that users would respect it as that.

I just wish Admins would be consistent. And not make up the rules as they see fit.

I get chastised by one for doing something.

Then I report someone else for doing the same thing, and I get told that I was being a little too liberal with my reports.

So either said person is admitting me getting chastised for doing the SAME thing was petty,

Or they are admitting they are being inconsistent, and just making it up as they see fit.

Which is fine, it's their forum.

But the fake acting of fairness and equality in the forums needs to go.

There needs to be a bit more honesty in the admin ranks.

If you are going to ban just because you don't like someone, or just to quiet things down regardless of fault, SAY SO. Don't hide behind a lame excuse and talk condescending towards said person you just banned, as if they have no right to know why they were banned. And don't insult my intelligence and blame the banning for something that happened before.

That kind of action will just get you disrespected in these forums. Admin or not.

If anything, I am glad this little test I did proved a point that many of us were making for the past 2 years.

The thing about it is, in the 4 years I have been here.

I have yet to seen one mod or admin apologize for banning someone when they didn't deserve to be banned.

That either means, the admin/mods are infallible.

Or they don't have enough respect for their own posters to do so.

Some people just need to put their egos on the shelf.

[lil'babykitten]

Yeah but have you ever reported someone that is 'on your own side' and is being unreasonable?

[CreepingDeth]

Me wonders if LBK was one of the 4 FH was talking about.

[lil'babykitten]

Originally Posted by CreepingDeth

Me wonders if LBK was one of the 4 FH was talking about.

You is wrong! I don't think I am, but I can't remember the last time I reported anybody anyway.
DH's point is a good one.

[Big Mac]

I see the cat lady has a great deal of difficulty abiding by the signature guidelines.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by lil'babykitten

Yeah but have you ever reported someone that is 'on your own side' and is being unreasonable?

Yes, yes I actually have.

Originally Posted by lil'babykitten

DH's point is a good one.

What point is that? He never posted in this thread.

[Maflynn]

I haven't jumped in on this thread as I really don't frequent the PL forum but I figured what the heck. I'm never shy about giving my $.02.

It seems to me that the mods are quite inconsistant with applying the rules, they do sound condensening and arrogant at times. They also lock threads inconsistany or on a whim.

I recall an old thread that Lateralus posted asking for a disk image of the ATI cd since he has the OEM version and wanted the tools software that came with the retail version. He posted the request and promptly locked it so no one could reply, I presume so no one would question whether this was piracy or not, i.e., getting software and not paying for it. Other times they seem to lock threads when people had disagreed with them.

Macnn is a lively place with a diverse population with conflicting personal views so its only natural you may need to some oversight from time to time. Lately though they seem to be squelching the free speech and open dialogues.

I'm all for keeping things civil, infact I posted a thread here lamenting the lack of comporum, but it seems unfair to ban both parties when only one has been over the line.

Mike

[Zimphire]

So why did the Kevin acount get banned?

You guys know you should really treat people with a little respect and inform them why they are being banned. Right?



I guess I will just do what SWF does when he gets banned.

Go to an older acount.

[E's Lil Theorem]

Originally Posted by Zimphire

...
I guess I will just do what SWF does when he gets banned.

Go to an older acount.

Isn't that what you did with the Kevin account? Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought you were not allowed in the PL and were going around that by going in there with an old account. If this is the case, they had good reasons to ban you.

EDIT: Oops, looks like this account was banned, too. I reckon I shouldn't expect a response any time soon.

[Randman]

Literally the king of nothingness now. Wow.

[Superchicken]

I agree... the inconsistency of the mods/admins at MacNN is just plain crazy most days. We can have threads filled with constant bigotry and hate towards other people and that's fine, so long as no one challenges that... however soon as conflict arises people get banned or told to shut up whatever. They never bother to tell people things like, "We won't let you continue posting here if you continue to say things like you want to cut off the left arms of all black people," but they will say, "You're arguing too much."

[MorningStar]

Originally Posted by E's Lil Theorem

Isn't that what you did with the Kevin account? Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought you were not allowed in the PL and were going around that by going in there with an old account. If this is the case, they had good reasons to ban you.

EDIT: Oops, looks like this account was banned, too. I reckon I shouldn't expect a response any time soon.

Nope, I never posted in the PL when I was banned.

I was never given a reason for being banned.

BTW admins, I have many examples of people getting usernames banned only to come right back with another and nothing gets done.

SWF had one of his usernames banned. He came back the next day using another.

Nothing was said.

Rob gets banned, comes back seconds later and only gets banned if he starts personal attacking again.

Same thing happened to PerryP.

He got banned. Came back with a different nick. One that the mods DID know about because I personally told Demonhood about it.

I was told nothing was going to be done unless he broke the rules.

Why did I get singled out again?

Why was my case different? The only thing I can think of is, certain mods/admins want to silence what I am doing/have to say. Or have personal issues with me that mods or admins shouldn't be acting upon.

The person that did this, is just furthering my point I made.

You are only proving me right.

So keep it up.

If said admin or mod has something personal against me, and just wants me gone then said person needs to come out and say so.

Not just hide behind bans and lame excuses.

Just asking me to leave to have sufficed.

So still no answer as to why I was banned?

Or to why I am being singled out and treated differently?

Do I not deserve to be given a reason for why I was banned?

[scaught]

this might be the best thread ever.

[MorningStar]

Eh, it's the thread where the mods are supposed to be held accountable.

Seems they don't think so. Certain mods egos are getting in the way of them doing the right thing.

This isn't just a few whiners anymore.

Pretty bad when even people that dislike me and usually disagree with me have taken up for me and sided with me.

Until the admins can post in here and attempt to justify him/her/their actions banning me wont change a thing.

They will continue to find someone to ban for no reason, and there will always be backlash.

I might not be around this time to stop anyone from doing bad things to NN.

And those of you that know what I am talking about, well, know what I am talking about .


AKA Karma is a bitch

I still haven't received an apology for the last ban.

Not that I was expecting one.

[Warung]

I find it interesting that some people believe that the only possible reason for being banned is because they did something against the "rules".

I have been banned from the PL lounge more times than I can remember (all of them justifiably so, - though at times I whish I would have gotten a PM as to why exactly) So be it though.

If it was up to me people would be banned FAR more often than they already are (and,no, not only those with a different political opnion than mine), - I guess the mods/admins are doing what they can to keep this a fairly decent community.

[jasonsRX7]

Originally Posted by MorningStar

They will continue to find someone to ban for no reason, and there will always be backlash.

I might not be around this time to stop anyone from doing bad things to NN.

ddos extortion, real nice. Lets hear it for morality

[xi_hyperon]

Originally Posted by MorningStar

I might not be around this time to stop anyone from doing bad things to NN.

And those of you that know what I am talking about, well, know what I am talking about .


AKA Karma is a bitch

I still haven't received an apology for the last ban.

Not that I was expecting one.

Dude, be careful with what you post. If something happens like a denial of service attack, and you've posted stuff like this beforehand, it doesn't look so good for you from a legal perspective. Even if you weren't technically involved.

[Zimphire]

Originally Posted by jasonsRX7

ddos extortion, real nice. Lets hear it for morality

Extortion? No.

I have no, nor will not do anything.

I don't believe in that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by xi_hyperon

Dude, be careful with what you post. If something happens like a denial of service attack, and you've posted stuff like this beforehand, it doesn't look so good for you from a legal perspective. Even if you weren't technically involved.

Doesn't matter. they would have to post it back to me, and provide proof I knew how to do that sort of thing.

I do not, nor have I.

Nor do I approve of such a thing happening.

If it ever happened, it would probably upset me enough to turn said people in if they were involved.

As I have told the admins before.

But hey, the ultimate way to get this silly stuff stopped, is to JUST BE FAIR and CONSISTENT.

I was told my kevin account got banned because I was trying to derail a thread.

Even though I showed where it was being derailed and flamed before even got there.

I got the "your past actions" excuse again.

Oh well. if it makes a certain admin or mod feel better at night.

Knee-jerking admins/mods really need to stop doing it.

EVERYONE makes mistakes. That doesn't bother me.

When you do make a mistake, you should however, own up to it. And apologize to anyone you have upset in the process.

Well people that have any dignity at all should anyhow.

[Demonhood]

he has now been given a reason for his ban.
his zimphire account has been unbanned. OMG, does that mean we're fallible??? i'll have to give back this "practically perfect in every way" medallion i stole off that British woman.

startling revelation of the day: people don't like being banned.

startling revelation of the day #2: people never accept the reason they're banned for.

startling revelation of the day #3: people always place the blame on others.

startling revelation of the day #4: toaster ovens are a leading cause of house fires.

[Zimphire]

Demon, the fact I no longer use this Zimphire account, but the Kevin one, but I can post using this one, but not that one says a lot about the state of affairs in the admin section.

"You can post, just not under that name!"



Oh well. Whatever.

And again, many people in here complaining about it. Most of them have never been banned.

So yes, people don't like getting banned. True

But people also don't like seeing mods or admins banning for lame reasons, or no reason at all.

This thread is evidence of that.

Sad thing when even people that really don't like me. have taken up for me in this thread.

But of course, it's all in my head.

Hey that rhymed.

[Weyland-Yutani]

ban schman. people just make new nicks and keep posting if that is so important to them

cheers

W-Y

[loki74]

I would tend to agree with WY on this one...

I think theres a lesson to be learned on both sides... sure, the Mods could be a little easier, but that wont change much. People will still be jerks, which is the reason behind banning in the first place. I think that what we should do is just not give any reason to ban. Even lame ones. If you get banned for reporting someone, dont report them. Its not like its hurting you, really. But it will hurt the mods, as it will cause people to not want to post in the forums. Both over-banning and under-banning are double edged swords...

something I might point out also, and I hope none of the mods take offense to this, but is it more than coincidence that the most locked threads seem to be in the feedback section? just food for thought...

[Warung]

One thing I would like to add here. If somebody is banned "temporarly" could you please indicate EXACTLY how long that is. IMHO that would make things much easier to deal with.

Lets just say that if somebody gets banned for making a personal remark or an insult, just say "you're banned from posting here for the next 100 days...".

[Randman]

Originally Posted by Zimphire

Demon, the fact I no longer use this Zimphire account, but the Kevin one, but I can post using this one, but not that one says a lot about the state of affairs in the admin section.

I would think it says more about you, post-whoring under eleventy billion account names.

Pick one, for goodness' sake.