[zanyterp]

i was wondering if any of you know if entries for the apple design award contest have to written in objective-c or if any language is accepted? (i've checked the apple developer site and they just have a list of winners now.) thanks for help!

nick

[Rickster]

They tend not to announce the details of each year's contest until a few months before the deadline, which is usually about a month before WWDC... so stay tuned, it'll likely come in the next few weeks.

Regardless, the list of previous winners includes programs written for most, if not all, development frameworks available on OS X... from Carbon to Cocoa to RealBASIC. I'd be incredibly surprised if Apple chose to restrict this year's contest. (Though I'd not be very surprised if, like in the last few years, they add more categories which do have stipulations on just what kind of products can be entered, such as Best Open Source Unix Port or Best Dashboard Widget.)

[zanyterp]

Originally posted by Rickster:
They tend not to announce the details of each year's contest until a few months before the deadline, which is usually about a month before WWDC... so stay tuned, it'll likely come in the next few weeks.

Regardless, the list of previous winners includes programs written for most, if not all, development frameworks available on OS X... from Carbon to Cocoa to RealBASIC. I'd be incredibly surprised if Apple chose to restrict this year's contest. (Though I'd not be very surprised if, like in the last few years, they add more categories which do have stipulations on just what kind of products can be entered, such as Best Open Source Unix Port or Best Dashboard Widget.)

thanks. and C++ cannot access cocoa calls, right?

[Rickster]

Yes and no. There's Objective-C++, which is better described as using C++ from within an Obj-C Cocoa program than the other way around. You can write as much of your custom logic in C++ as you want, but your interface to the Cocoa frameworks is still ObjC.

Afraid it's hard to learn? It's easy! (Really, just different syntax for the same sorts of OO concepts.) There's all sorts of great tutorial info already on your drive if you installed the Xcode Tools, plus more on developer.apple.com.

[saddino]

Originally posted by zanyterp:
thanks. and C++ cannot access cocoa calls, right?

No, it is actually possible to acess Cocoa from C++ using loadable bundles (for example, if you want to implement WebKit into a Carbon application). There's an Apple TechNote on how to accomplish this.

Also, some IDE's (e.g. CodeWarrior) allow mixing of ObjectiveC into C++ (for example, I've wrapped WebKit inside a C++ class for calling from inside a Carbon app).