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Kerrigan · May 30, 2008, 02:06 AM

Phone home: Purported UFO video to be shown Friday : Updates : The Rocky Mountain News

"It shows an extraterrestrial's head popping up outside of a window at night, looking in the window, that's visible through an infrared camera," he said. The alien is about 4 feet tall and can be seen blinking, Peckman said earlier this month.

This is clearly true. It makes perfect sense that an alien is able to shed its space suit and walk around earth, where instead of seeing the great sights like Times Square or the changing of the guard, it decides to peek into our living rooms at night.

Randman · May 30, 2008, 02:11 AM

It's not an alien, it's Larry King.

Chuckit · May 30, 2008, 02:15 AM

And of course the public can't see it because the footage has already been sold. But the guy is totally sincere. Sounds plausible. BTW, I'm selling a bridge up around San Francisco if anyone's interested.

andreas_g4 · May 30, 2008, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

BTW, I'm selling a bridge up around San Francisco if anyone's interested.

Wrong forum.

pman68 · May 30, 2008, 02:44 PM

OK some jokers made a copy cat video already:

alien in window - boo

Probably as good as the "real" one.

pman68 · 03:03 PM

OK doing more research, I found the guy who shot the footage is named Stan Romanek. He has a pension for getting abducted too. Anyway, I remember Carl Sagan always wanting an equation as proof of abductions. And this guy got them

Here's an example from EQUATIONS

The strange writing at the bottom of this new equation was at first, unrecognizable. A researcher discovered that it was the word, "propulsion" written in an ancient form of Aramaic. The bottom of the equation reads, "Zero Point Propulsion."

I know all this is BS, but still fun!

Chuckit · May 30, 2008, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by andreas_g4

Wrong forum.

Drat, I've been outed as a bridge spammer!

hyteckit · May 30, 2008, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by pman68

OK doing more research, I found the guy who shot the footage is named Stan Romanek. He has a pension for getting abducted too. Anyway, I remember Carl Sagan always wanting an equation as proof of abductions. And this guy got them

Here's an example from EQUATIONS

The strange writing at the bottom of this new equation was at first, unrecognizable. A researcher discovered that it was the word, "propulsion" written in an ancient form of Aramaic. The bottom of the equation reads, "Zero Point Propulsion."

I know all this is BS, but still fun!

It looks like math until the bottom two row.

The bottom two row just looks like sperm, egg, the female reproductive system, and the 9 month gestation period.

Fertilized egg --> Womb --> 9 month gestation period.

Dakar the Fourth · May 30, 2008, 03:26 PM

Dakar the Fourth · May 30, 2008, 03:28 PM

That's what I've read, yes.

Edit: Mind-taker!

pman68 · May 30, 2008, 03:30 PM

Is that from the "real" video?

Mithras · May 30, 2008, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by pman68

... I found the guy who shot the footage is named Stan Romanek. He has a pension for getting abducted too.

Maybe the aliens will help prop up Social Security?

CollinG3G4 · May 30, 2008, 03:41 PM

In other news, scientists claim to have perfected cold fusion. A demonstration is scheduled to take place next week.

olePigeon · May 30, 2008, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Drat, I've been outed as a bridge spammer!

Besides, everyone knows the best bridges are in Brooklyn.

turtle777 · May 31, 2008, 12:32 AM

Lemme get this straight:

These aliens have far superior technology, enabling them to travel from light-years away to earth, but the only way they can observe a house is by peeping through a window ?

-t

Tiresias · May 31, 2008, 01:03 AM

Carl Sagan soundly demolishes the UFO phenomenon in Demon-Haunted World. I was open-minded to the possibility that there was something to the reports until I read this book. He helped me to see that it is not a question of "believing" in aliens. It's a question of accepting evidence, and there just isn't any.

Plus the guy looks like a prize kook.

Jawbone54 · May 31, 2008, 01:13 AM

I swear this stuff would have kept me up at night when I was about nine. Sad but true. Thank God YouTube didn't come around until long after I made it past bed-peeing age.

Okay, a little after bed-peeing age...

Jawbone54 · May 31, 2008, 01:13 AM

Additionally, this Peckman fellow has a funny name.

Jeff.

turtle777 · May 31, 2008, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth

Dad ?

[/Railhead]

-t

torsoboy · May 31, 2008, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth

Looks like a dog looking through the window.

Kerrigan · May 31, 2008, 01:56 AM

Right now I am in a room with large windows and no curtains, and seeing as how it is night time, I would be terrified if I looked over at the window and discerned some sort of face. In fact, it is perhaps the most frightening thing that I can imagine seeing in my home during the night, and I think it strikes an evolutionary chord that alerts our defense responses.

Obviously it is this primal fear that Peckman is trying to use to get people to buy his DVD (or whatever he's coming out with). Too bad the whole idea is nonsense, and you would have to be an idiot to think that aliens have come all the way from god-knows-where just to try and catch a glimpse of a naked human.

hokie17 · May 31, 2008, 07:08 AM

I first saw this picture on the Fox Report last night, and Sheppard Smith made a comment that I agree with.

"Looks like one of those Punisher t-shirts."

MarkLT1 · May 31, 2008, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by hokie17

I first saw this picture on the Fox Report last night, and Sheppard Smith made a comment that I agree with.

"Looks like one of those Punisher t-shirts."

Its actually much more terrifying than a peeping-tom martian. Look above the Punnisher face. Look close... Its the killer from "Scream" wearing a Punnisher shirt!!!!1one1!1!!!one Oh Noes!

Tiresias · May 31, 2008, 10:22 AM

Another point skeptical scientists make: because eyes, for reasons of optics, are spherical, you can determine approximately their size by the part exposed in the socket; and any being with eyes as big as those the "Greys" have in most representations (and this fellow) would have no room left in its head for a brain. I suppose they might have a brain in their torso though.

amazing · May 31, 2008, 11:10 AM

You know what the saddest thing is about alien abductions?

They keep bringing them back! If they took them in the first place, they should keep them!

analogue SPRINKLES · May 31, 2008, 12:24 PM

so where is the damn video?

olePigeon · May 31, 2008, 04:24 PM

Ford: Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets which haven’t made interstellar contact yet and buzz them.
Aurthur: Ah. "Buzz them?"
Ford: Yeah. They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul, who no one’s ever going to believe, and then strut up and down in front of ‘em wearing silly antennae on their head and making “beep, beep” noises. Huh, rather childish really.

turtle777 · May 31, 2008, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by amazing

You know what the saddest thing is about alien abductions?

They keep bringing them back! If they took them in the first place, they should keep them!

But what else could they do to make us believe it ?

Oh, wait, nevermind. We don't.

-t

osiris · May 31, 2008, 07:45 PM

I guess it was just Larry taking a peep.

AKcrab · May 31, 2008, 08:10 PM

Hah!!! GJ.

Peter · May 31, 2008, 08:50 PM

(from digg)

rozwado1 · May 31, 2008, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

Looks like a dog looking through the window.

Looks like a giant pig nose. Alien-pigs would be scary.

C.A.T.S. CEO · May 31, 2008, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Carl Sagan soundly demolishes the UFO phenomenon in Demon-Haunted World. I was open-minded to the possibility that there was something to the reports until I read this book. He helped me to see that it is not a question of "believing" in aliens. It's a question of accepting evidence, and there just isn't any.

Plus the guy looks like a prize kook.

How deep have you actually looked into the alien phenomenon? I'd say very little, because that statement is incredibly ignorant.

Tiresias · May 31, 2008, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

How deep have you actually looked into the alien phenomenon? I'd say very little, because that statement is incredibly ignorant.

There's no hard evidence, my friend. That is a fact. The UFO phenomenon is nothing but a cocktail of pareidolia, apophenia, hypnopompic paralysis, true believers syndrome, fraud, and stupidity. And if there were hard evidence, this discussion would be as absurd as "Do you believe in the phenomenon of gorillas?"

Read Gilovich How we know what isn't so: The fallibility of human reason in everyday life. and Sagan The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark and Dawkins The God Delusion and then we'll talk.

(BTW, nice tinfoil hat.)

Kerrigan · May 31, 2008, 11:02 PM

The reasons given by UFO believers are so bad, they're not even wrong

abe · May 31, 2008, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by pman68

OK doing more research, I found the guy who shot the footage is named Stan Romanek. He has a pension for getting abducted too. Anyway, I remember Carl Sagan always wanting an equation as proof of abductions. And this guy got them

Here's an example from EQUATIONS

The strange writing at the bottom of this new equation was at first, unrecognizable. A researcher discovered that it was the word, "propulsion" written in an ancient form of Aramaic. The bottom of the equation reads, "Zero Point Propulsion."

I know all this is BS, but still fun!

I think you mean penchant.

penchant: liking or tendency: a strong liking, taste, or tendency for something

pension: 1. retirement pay: a fixed amount of money paid regularly to somebody during retirement by the government, a former employer, or an insurance company

2. regular sum paid: a sum of money paid regularly as compensation, e.g. for an injury sustained on a job, or as a reward for service, e.g. to an ex-soldier or a widow's pension

turtle777 · May 31, 2008, 11:51 PM

You guys are so ignorant.

Of course there are aliens, and they are turtles.

-t

Railroader · Jun 1, 2008, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

There's no hard evidence, my friend. That is a fact. The UFO phenomenon is nothing but a cocktail of pareidolia, apophenia, hypnopompic paralysis, true believers syndrome, fraud, and stupidity. And if there were hard evidence, this discussion would be as absurd as "Do you believe in the phenomenon of gorillas?"

Read Gilovich How we know what isn't so: The fallibility of human reason in everyday life. and Sagan The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark and Dawkins The God Delusion and then we'll talk.

(BTW, nice tinfoil hat.)

You had me at "pareidolia".

turtle777 · Jun 1, 2008, 12:25 AM

More secret alien footage. NSFW !!!1!11oneone

Ha, made you click

-t

Tiresias · Jun 1, 2008, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

You had me at "pareidolia".

I was thinking of the related "face on Mars" nonsense.

Pareidolia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A fun word to GIS, by the way.

Railroader · Jun 1, 2008, 12:31 AM

*woosh*

Railroader · Jun 1, 2008, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

More secret alien footage. NSFW !!!1!11oneone

Ha, made you click

-t

I clicked.

Lateralus · Jun 1, 2008, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

There's no hard evidence, my friend. That is a fact. The UFO phenomenon is nothing but a cocktail of pareidolia, apophenia, hypnopompic paralysis, true believers syndrome, fraud, and stupidity. And if there were hard evidence, this discussion would be as absurd as "Do you believe in the phenomenon of gorillas?"

Read Gilovich How we know what isn't so: The fallibility of human reason in everyday life. and Sagan The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark and Dawkins The God Delusion and then we'll talk.

You should organize a MacNN book club as a way to further the general enlightenment of the forum. I'm sure appreciation for your ambivalence would abound.

Chuckit · Jun 1, 2008, 02:01 AM

He seems ambivalent to you?

Tiresias · Jun 1, 2008, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

I'm sure appreciation for your ambivalence would abound.

Where's the ambivalence in my post? What I am saying is not controversial. There is no hard evidence. Period.

a cocktail of pareidolia, apophenia, hypnopompic paralysis, true believers syndrome, fraud, and stupidity.

This is not original thought. It is the standard explanation among skeptics for "UFOlogy" and the "alien abduction" phenomenon gleaned from the three books mentioned above.

Read [A, B and C] and then we'll talk.

This is a helpful recommendation for CATS inspired by his post:

How deep have you actually looked into the alien phenomenon? I'd say very little, because that statement is incredibly ignorant.

Evidence of ETI if it turned up would be hugely important—one of the most important scientific developments in human history. To suggest that it already exists, but just needs to be sniffed out and pieced together from UFOlogical literature is "incredibly ignorant".

C.A.T.S. CEO · 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Tiresias

There's no hard evidence, my friend. That is a fact. The UFO phenomenon is nothing but a cocktail of pareidolia, apophenia, hypnopompic paralysis, true believers syndrome, fraud, and stupidity. And if there were hard evidence, this discussion would be as absurd as "Do you believe in the phenomenon of gorillas?"

Read Gilovich How we know what isn't so: The fallibility of human reason in everyday life. and Sagan The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark and Dawkins The God Delusion and then we'll talk.

(BTW, nice tinfoil hat.)

Closed-minded much?

Originally Posted by Tiresias

I was thinking of the related "face on Mars" nonsense.

Pareidolia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A fun word to GIS, by the way.

The face of Mars is a bunch of boulders, you really think I'm that gullible? (This is what I mean by ignorance, btw, thinking we are all crazies who believe everything that is said to be a alien craft/alien origin)

Peter · Jun 1, 2008, 08:21 AM

you're allowed to believe there is "something out there" without believing in the UFO bullshit

C.A.T.S. CEO · Jun 1, 2008, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Peter

you're allowed to believe there is "something out there" without believing in the UFO bullshit

Yep.

Peter · Jun 1, 2008, 09:52 AM

to be fair you're allowed to believe whatever you want.

Tiresias · Jun 1, 2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Peter

you're allowed to believe there is "something out there" without believing in the UFO bullshit

What does it mean to "believe" in something when there is NO evidence? It means entering flying spaghetti monster territory.

Carl Sagan was once asked by a reporter, "But come on, is there something out there—what's your gut feeling?"

He replied, "I try not to think with my gut. It's okay to wait until the evidence is in."