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abundrefo · Mar 28, 2003, 10:35 AM

Hi,

I've been reading about bad pixels on PowerBooks.
Is every model (12", 15"Ti and 17") submited to this "defect"?
How often do they appear?
Can we see bad pixels even in brand-new PowerBooks, sometimes?

Thanks.

Andre.

morlium · Mar 28, 2003, 10:43 AM

it's not a PowerBook problem per se, it's an LCD problem.

most screens aren't affected, and when one is, the dead pixels are not very noticeable (unless you look for them).

don't sweat it.

jtbowden · Mar 28, 2003, 02:37 PM

Bad pixels are present a certain percentage of the time on all LCDs of all brands. It's amazing that they are not more common considering that there are essentially 1+ million x 2 connections for each pixel on an average display.

I have never had a bad pixel on 9 laptops (including family members). They are not as common as one would think with all the talk about them. It's just that they really bug people when they do get them, understandably of course.

claughery · Mar 28, 2003, 03:03 PM

so really, how many people have dead pixels on their new 17 inch?

Spheric Harlot · Mar 28, 2003, 03:08 PM

can't speak for the 17"er, but both the 12" powerbooks' screens here are immaculate.

-s*

evansus · Mar 28, 2003, 04:13 PM

In my experience, bad pixels on Apple computers and displays are very rare, and I use a lot of them where I work. PC's on the other hand...

Actually the PC laptops I've used haven't had many, IBM's especially, but I've seen far too many Dell LCD's with 1 bad pixels or 2 horribly cheap LCD's with fuzzy stripes and flickering, etc. -You get what you pay for.-

jambajooz · Mar 28, 2003, 04:16 PM

I bought my 15" last December and did not have a single dead pixel. However about a month and half ago, 5 white pixels appeared on my screen that lasted for a couple days and it went away all by itself. I was already about to call Apple regarding them.

Originally posted by claughery:
so really, how many people have dead pixels on their new 17 inch?

chrisutley · Mar 28, 2003, 04:18 PM

I have a Dual USB iBook and two TiBooks, not a single bad pixel on any of them.

Over Achiever · Mar 28, 2003, 04:22 PM

No bad pixel on my 17" powerbook.

swsteckly · Mar 28, 2003, 06:26 PM

Here's my history:

12" Wallstreet 233: One dead, far bottom left corner.

14" Pismo 400: Perfect

15" Ti 400: Two dead in center, replaced by apple because of the location.

15" Ti 550: One dead, far left upper corner.

15" FP iMac 700/Combo: One dead, left lower corner, one stuck blue, near middle.

15" Ti 800: Perfect

17" 1Ghz: Perfect

mrtew · Mar 28, 2003, 11:52 PM

Here's my history with 5 LCDs.

TiBook400 Perfect screen.
TiBook667 Perfect screen replaced because of bubbling hinge paint with another perfect screen.
TiBook1gz One lit blue pixel, almost invisble, replaced because of an unrelated graphics problem with a perfect screen.

4 of 5 LCD's were perfect.

CaseCom · Mar 29, 2003, 03:20 AM

12" AlBook: Perfect

maelstrom65 · Mar 29, 2003, 03:48 AM

15" Dell Inspiron 2650 - 1 dead pixel left center. Rubbing screen gently fixed it.

17" AlPB G4 1Ghz - 2 dead pixels (one middle right, second lower right) Rubbing LCD did sweet f**k all.

Luck of the draw I guess...

Cheers

Cadaver · Mar 30, 2003, 12:30 AM

My LCD history (I still have all the items below except one):

PowerBook G3 Pismo (sold) - no bad pixels.
15" Apple blue & white VGA studio display - no bad pixels.
Two Apple 17" studio displays - no bad pixels.
22" Apple cinema display - no bad pixels.
12" iBook 600MHz - one stuck black pixel lower left.
15" 1GHz TiBook - no bad pixels.
Two 17" Dell displays (1700 & 1702) - no bad pixels.
18" Dell display (1800) - no bad pixels.

So as you can see, it can happen with any display, but quality control is very good these days.

StiZeven · Mar 30, 2003, 02:09 PM

My notebooks throughout the years:

Dell Latitude CPiR - Perfect.

Dell Inspiron 4150 - Perfect.

Dell Latitude C400 - Perfect.

Dell Latitude X200 - Perfect.

Apple TiBook G4 - 5 dead/lit pixels.

Apple TiBook G4 - 7 dead/lit pixels.

Apple 12" PowerBook G4 - Perfect.

danielb0101 · Mar 30, 2003, 04:09 PM

Winbook - Perfect
Powerbook G3/400 (Firewire) - Perfect
Apple Studio Display 17" - Perfect
12" Powerbook G4 - One stuck pixel

todrain · Mar 31, 2003, 08:15 AM

My new 1ghz TIBook is perfect! No dead pixels!!

Buck_W · Mar 31, 2003, 11:04 AM

15" TiBook - Perfect

NightEyes · Mar 31, 2003, 02:55 PM

New 17" PB here and no dead pixels on the screen.

seanyepez · Mar 31, 2003, 03:35 PM

I've had two 12-inch PowerBooks. Neither of them have had pixel defects. My first 1-gigahertz TiBook had two green stuck pixels on a black background. My second 1-gigahertz TiBook has one pixel stuck on blue in the upper right corner. Both of my SuperDrive iMacs have had a single dead pixel each. Worst of all, there's a red stuck pixel in the middle of my 20-inch Cinema Display. My two Pismo PowerBooks were perfect, and my Lombard had a single dead pixel.

None of my four iPods have had stuck or dead pixels.

tritonus · Apr 1, 2003, 01:29 PM

17" PowerBook. Absolutely no dead pixel, checked with "Pixel Check" software. Amazing display!

spaced · Apr 1, 2003, 02:35 PM

Pismo: 1 dead, 1 stuck blue
Key Lime iBook: 1 stuck green
3x iceBooks: 2 had one dead pixel, 3rd was perfect
tiBook 867: one dead pixel
LCD iMac 800: perfect
17" Studio Display: perfect
17" PowerBook: perfect

Seems that LCD quality has (obviously) improved over time, but is still not perfect. I pulled my 17" PowerBook out of the box expecting a dead pixel (so I wouldn't be devastated) but I was pleasantly surprised.