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subego  (op)
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Sep 12, 2019, 10:55 PM
 
Seat beads apparently precipitate a critical ass breakdown at about the two hour mark.
     
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Sep 14, 2019, 12:40 PM
 
Decided to retire these beads. Not giving up entirely, but the idea is on hold right now.

Next up is I liked what the Rain-X did for my underwater camera dome, so I’m trying some Aquapel, which people claim lasts significantly longer between applications.

After that is a Bluetooth speakerphone. I used to drive so infrequently, I would just ignore phone calls in the car, but that’s become untenable. It’s also recently become illegal here to diddle with a cell phone while driving. You are allowed one touch to answer a call. Anything else is a ticket.


Edit: the haze with Aquapel is really a bitch.

Edit 2: got the hang of it... didn’t wipe it off fast enough the first time.
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Sep 16, 2019, 08:27 AM
 
I think Iowa has a loophole where you can interact with the phone for nav purposes.

Text-to-speech and speech-to-text have transformed my in-car cell phone usage. My car will read the texts to me, and I can trigger Siri from a steering wheel button to tell her what to reply. My phone stays in my pocket.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 11:29 AM
 
I should probably start doing that.

What’s stopped me is Siri is dumb. Like, dog dumb.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 11:45 AM
 
These laws discriminate against people with old cars! There are regular laws against being distracted, looking at your phone too much is a distraction, so is trying to wrangle a paper map, a crying child, barking dog, big mac.

My car can't do fancy stuff from the steering wheel, so put it in the cupholder most of the time. I do use Siri a ton to send texts and emails. People have gotten used to the odd translation.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 12:15 PM
 
I looked over our law, and it’s typical Illinois overdoing it.

Except for the one touch to answer a call, all touching of electronic devices is prohibited unless you’re in park. This includes the GPS, and includes being stopped at a stoplight.

I know people on their phones at stoplights is annoying, but it’s not really dangerous. Annoying behavior shouldn’t be a crime.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 12:47 PM
 
I know it sounds extreme, but you know what should be illegal?

Crossing the street while looking at your cell phone. This really freaks me out when I see it.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 12:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
These laws discriminate against people with old cars! There are regular laws against being distracted, looking at your phone too much is a distraction, so is trying to wrangle a paper map, a crying child, barking dog, big mac.
I always try to be wary of complaining. People love complaining and if there's nothing valid to complain about, they'll find something.

People love to talk about "back in my day!" The people that do this typically have no sense of perspective and no actual valid recollections about how things were in "their day."

When it comes to texting and driving, you get a combo of the above. An opportunity for people to complain, and especially to complain about something new, something new that kids or women are doing.

So I'm pretty wary of texting-while-driving complaints. But I think there is something to it.

Sure, as long as driving has existed, distracted driving has existed. I remember on a road trip growing up looking over and seeing someone with a novel propped up on their steering wheel while on the interstate.

But each of your examples of distractions are low percentage items - for every hour spent driving, only a minute or two are likely spent dealing with eating, mapping, barking, or crying. But now 100% of the time you drive, you have a phone in your pocket, purse, or lap. And phones and apps are 100% designed to psychologically maximize engagement. You have to take specific, active steps to avoid those psychological triggers.

Add to that brains that are trained to receive maximum stimulation at all times, and you get people bored with just simply driving, and a beeping, buzzing, ever-present solution to that boredom.

Hands-free isn't really a solution either. Everything I've seen says that hands-free talking isn't any less distracting than holding the phone, as your limited attention capacity is still divided.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 12:57 PM
 
I have no trouble believing the argument that texting while driving is like, a really, really bad idea.

I admit, I base this somewhat on my own experience of narrowly avoiding death when texting while driving “back in the day”.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 01:05 PM
 
texting while driving, absolutely. you have to look and use hands. I also realized that wasn't worth it.

but...

siri transcription? like talking to a passenger?
changing music? like changing a radio station?
looking at Maps? like looking at a map?
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 01:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
siri transcription? like talking to a passenger?
A conversation is distracting. I'd also argue Siri is worse because you know she won't understand what you're saying so you have to listen closely to her repeat it and then yell and get frustrated and more distracted.

changing music? like changing a radio station?
Cycling through presets with a few big physical preset buttons or steering wheel buttons is a lot different from looking at a touchscreen, reading it, and finding some inexplicably small hit box while in a moving car. Note that I also hate cars with built-in touchscreen radio controls.

looking at Maps? like looking at a map?
I'd wager that this is the one that's way better - spoken directions based on an input destination is miles better than a paper map and trying to figure out your orientation every time you look back at the map. But is this level of navigation needed more than a couple times per year for most people? You don't need it during your normal commute or in your hometown. People use nav more now because there's no need to pre-plan a drive or route. Hop in and go, the phone will figure out my route for me.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 01:23 PM
 
I’ve almost wiped out looking at a map.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 01:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I'd wager that this is the one that's way better - spoken directions based on an input destination is miles better than a paper map and trying to figure out your orientation every time you look back at the map. But is this level of navigation needed more than a couple times per year for most people? You don't need it during your normal commute or in your hometown. People use nav more now because there's no need to pre-plan a drive or route. Hop in and go, the phone will figure out my route for me.
I “need” GPS (Waze) on my commute to route me around traffic.
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 08:45 PM
 
This is what I settled on...



It’s actually huge. Like, the diameter of a baseball. It’s $21, so not the end of the world if it sucks.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07...b_b_asin_image
     
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Sep 16, 2019, 09:54 PM
 
All it needs is a flush handle near the top left. To complete the look.
     
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Sep 17, 2019, 07:14 AM
 
It’s got auto-butt detection.
     
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Yesterday, 08:09 PM
 
Aquapel got a test today. Light to moderate rain in the daytime.

It provides an undeniably superior view through a wet windshield in exchange for having to manage wiper chatter.The forward sweep of the wiper effectively dries the window. There’s no lube for the backsweep.

The one exception was moderate rain with the wipers on maximum. Lower speeds still had chatter. My guess is the aggressive sweep was flinging water onto dry windshield.

So, I dunno... I kinda like it sorta maybe I guess.
     
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Today, 08:11 AM
 
The inside of my windshield has been really foggy lately with the cooler/humid mornings. I've used Rain-X interior fog treatment a few times but I'm not sure I'm happy with it, I usually end up with streaks. Probably my fault for doing a bad job at it, but I'd prefer something good enough that I can't mess up.
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Today, 10:01 AM
 
My solution is to start smoking.

Then you keep the window open.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
The inside of my windshield has been really foggy lately with the cooler/humid mornings. I've used Rain-X interior fog treatment a few times but I'm not sure I'm happy with it, I usually end up with streaks. Probably my fault for doing a bad job at it, but I'd prefer something good enough that I can't mess up.
Get something that absorbs water. I have a bag that you recharge in the microwave every so often.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Today, 02:30 PM
 
Ooo, great idea! Something like this?
     
 
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