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typoon · Aug 1, 2002, 11:17 AM

Who do you feel are the greatest cartoon characters? According to TV Guide the top 50 are: Who else do you think should be here which one(s) should be replaced?

1. Bugs Bunny

2. Homer Simpson

3. Rocky and Bullwinkle

4. Beavis and Butt-head

5. The Grinch

6. Fred and Barney

7. Angelica Pickles

8. Charlie Brown and Snoopy

9. SpongeBob SquarePants

10. Cartman

11. Bart and Lisa Simpson

12. Fat Albert

13. The Powerpuff Girls

14. Daffy Duck

15. Pikachu

16. Gumby

17. Betty Boop

18. Top Cat

19. Mickey Mouse

20. Popeye

21. Gerald McBoing-Boing

22. Scooby-Doo

23. Underdog

24. Josie and the Pussycats

25. Heckle and Jeckle

26. Arthur

27. Winnie the Pooh

28. Felix the Cat

29. Mr. Magoo

30. George of the Jungle

31. Ren and Stimpy

32. Tom Terrific

33. Tweety and Sylvester

34. Bill

35. Space Ghost

36. Yogi Bear and Boo Boo

37. Mighty Mouse

38. Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner

39. Superman

40. Batman

41. Daria

42. Wonder Woman

43. Donald Duck

44. Alvin

45. Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale

46. Woody Woodpecker

47. Porky Pig

48. Bobby Hill

49. Speed Racer

50. Tom and Jerry

fxbezak · Aug 1, 2002, 11:20 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by typoon:


34. Bill<hr /></blockquote>Gates? I KNEW that guy wasnt really real.
I KNEW IT

The Jackalope · Aug 1, 2002, 11:25 AM

Angela Pickles? Daria? WTF? Bah.

MadMacs · 02:27 AM

nonhuman · Aug 1, 2002, 11:29 AM

Spock from Star Trek: The Animate Series!

yield2apple · Aug 1, 2002, 11:34 AM

Where's Fritz the Cat?

anarkisst · Aug 1, 2002, 11:39 AM

Marine Boy!

<img src="http://www.divernet.com/profs/pics/0200marine.jpg" alt=" - " />

ringo · Aug 1, 2002, 11:42 AM

Cartman better than Betty Boop, Popeye, and Felix the cat?
Blasphemy!

Nonsuch · Aug 1, 2002, 11:49 AM

Even by the standards of TV Guide's non-articles, that list was lame. It simply doesn't make sense to take characters created in comic strips, comic books, movies, and TV and throw them all into one list. Do that and you end up with absurdities like Angelica from RugRats being "greater" (whatever that means exactly) than Charlie Brown, or Superman, one of the most popular characters of the 20th century, at #39, coming in two spots behind one of his least imaginative imitations, Mighty Mouse.

OK, so I take these things a little too seriously. But it would've been far more interesting and sensible if they'd confined themselves to just TV animation. It would at least leave room for some noteworthy characters who otherwise got left out (Race Bannon comes to mind). Of course the list would then be dominated largely by lame Hannah-Barbera crap, but that's TV for you.

typoon · Aug 1, 2002, 11:51 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Nonsuch:
Even by the standards of TV Guide's non-articles, that list was lame. It simply doesn't make sense to take characters created in comic strips, comic books, movies, and TV and throw them all into one list. Do that and you end up with absurdities like Angelica from RugRats being "greater" (whatever that means exactly) than Charlie Brown, or Superman, one of the most popular characters of the 20th century, at #39, coming in two spots behind one of his least imaginative imitations, Mighty Mouse.

OK, so I take these things a little too seriously. But it would've been far more interesting and sensible if they'd confined themselves to just TV animation. It would at least leave room for some noteworthy characters who otherwise got left out (Race Bannon comes to mind). Of course the list would then be dominated largely by lame Hannah-Barbera crap, but that's TV for you.<hr /></blockquote>True, but this gives us a chance to add and remove from that list.

The Placid Casual · Aug 1, 2002, 11:56 AM

Surely a classic duo worthy of inclusion...

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/mjr22/.Music/Theme.mp3" target="_blank">Theme...</a>

Peace,

Marc

[ 08-01-2002, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: Marc2211 ]

anarkisst · Aug 1, 2002, 12:29 PM

<img src="http://www.toontracker.com/8thman/8thman-2.gif" alt=" - " />

<img src="http://esensja.pl/magazyn/2001/07/img/ilustr/post020501.jpg" alt=" - " />

...and the one that Disney ripped off...

Kimba the White Lion!

<img src="http://cartoons.metropoliglobal.com/puzzle/kimba/thumb.jpg" alt=" - " />

Nonsuch · Aug 1, 2002, 12:34 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by typoon:
True, but this gives us a chance to add and remove from that list.<hr /></blockquote>Why yes it does ...

Since I'm leaving work in a few minutes and have nothing to do until then, here is my list of the 50 greatest characters, confined only to characters created for television. In cases of "duo" characters, I played it by ear: sometimes I separated them, sometimes I dropped the straight man altogether, and sometimes the characters are so inextricably linked I had to keep them together. With that, here is my list:

1. Homer Simpson
2. Fat Albert
3. Bullwinkle
4. Ren & Stimpy
5. Butt-head
6. Bart Simpson
7. Fred Flintstone
8. SpongeBob SquarePants
9. Shaggy
10. Speed Racer
11. Scooby-Doo
12. Race Bannon
13. Goliath
14. C. Montgomery Burns
15. The Powerpuff Girls
16. Beany & Cecil
17. Deputy Dawg
18. Stewie Griffin
19. Danger Mouse
20. Cartman
21. Angelica Pickles
22. Yogi Bear
23. Lisa Simpson
24. Brian Griffin
25. Beavis
26. Barney Rubble
27. Bender
28. Gumby
29. Arthur
30. Brak
31. Krusty the Clown
32. Duckman
33. Space Ghost
34. Underdog
35. Atom Ant
36. Squidward
37. Hadji
38. Inspector Gadget
39. Bobby Hill
40. George of the Jungle
41. Samurai Jack
42. Josie and the Pussycats
43. Tennessee Tuxedo
44. Daria Morgendorfer
45. Cotton Hill
46. Boris Badenov & Natasha Fatale
47. Dexter
48. Ricochet Rabbit
49. Ace and Gary (The Ambiguously Gay Duo)
50. Mojo Jojo

If I included any non-TV characters, please correct me. (If I omitted anyone's favorite, that was probably the reason.)

thunderous_funker · Aug 1, 2002, 12:39 PM

Batfink -- i've only met 2 other people that remember seeing it, but it's one of my favorites of all time.

Secret Squirrel -- apparently there are new episodes, but as usual they suck when compared to the original. the voices were so great "hmm hmmmm, yellow pinky.."

Hong Kong Phooey --brother was righteous!

deedar · Aug 1, 2002, 12:43 PM

Felix (xxx version) The Cat

typoon · Aug 1, 2002, 12:48 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Nonsuch:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by typoon:
True, but this gives us a chance to add and remove from that list.<hr /></blockquote>Why yes it does ...

Since I'm leaving work in a few minutes and have nothing to do until then, here is my list of the 50 greatest characters, confined only to characters created for television. In cases of "duo" characters, I played it by ear: sometimes I separated them, sometimes I dropped the straight man altogether, and sometimes the characters are so inextricably linked I had to keep them together. With that, here is my list:

1. Homer Simpson
2. Fat Albert
3. Bullwinkle
4. Ren & Stimpy
5. Butt-head
6. Bart Simpson
7. Fred Flintstone
8. SpongeBob SquarePants
9. Shaggy
10. Speed Racer
11. Scooby-Doo
12. Race Bannon
13. Goliath
14. C. Montgomery Burns
15. The Powerpuff Girls
16. Beany & Cecil
17. Deputy Dawg
18. Stewie Griffin
19. Danger Mouse
20. Cartman
21. Angelica Pickles
22. Yogi Bear
23. Lisa Simpson
24. Brian Griffin
25. Beavis
26. Barney Rubble
27. Bender
28. Gumby
29. Arthur
30. Brak
31. Krusty the Clown
32. Duckman
33. Space Ghost
34. Underdog
35. Atom Ant
36. Squidward
37. Hadji
38. Inspector Gadget
39. Bobby Hill
40. George of the Jungle
41. Samurai Jack
42. Josie and the Pussycats
43. Tennessee Tuxedo
44. Daria Morgendorfer
45. Cotton Hill
46. Boris Badenov & Natasha Fatale
47. Dexter
48. Ricochet Rabbit
49. Ace and Gary (The Ambiguously Gay Duo)
50. Mojo Jojo

If I included any non-TV characters, please correct me. (If I omitted anyone's favorite, that was probably the reason.)<hr /></blockquote>How bout Speedy Gonzales, You don't think Bugs or Daffy should be in that list? How bout Taz?

Worst. Episode. Ever. · Aug 1, 2002, 12:57 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The Jackalope:
Daria? WTF? Bah.<hr /></blockquote>Daria rules, dude.

And how could they leave out Boomhauer?

The Placid Casual · Aug 1, 2002, 01:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
Batfink -- i've only met 2 other people that remember seeing it, but it's one of my favorites of all time.

Secret Squirrel -- apparently there are new episodes, but as usual they suck when compared to the original. the voices were so great "hmm hmmmm, yellow pinky.."

Hong Kong Phooey --brother was righteous!<hr /></blockquote>I have to agree with these three

especially Hong Kong Phooey...I still have most of the episodes on VHS somewhere

Marc

osiris · Aug 1, 2002, 01:34 PM

I hate to admit it, but I love CatDog. It's almost distrurbing watching that cartoon - it's so stupid, yet mindbending. A cat, a dog, they're frickin attached maaaaaan!

But from the list I have to pick Bugs Bunny.

Of all the talented and skilled animated actors, Bugs has set the standard for all we know and love today in a good cartoon. Everything - a quick thinker with the fast talk, the fast costume changes, the physical deformations and multiple gunshot wound ability - including direct cannon ball hits, physical combustion (pyrotechnic and matter/anti-matter) and on and on...

I wonder if he'll do the talk show route, or maybe just the usual interview from his Beverly Hills hole?...

<img border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" title="" src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" />

denim · Aug 1, 2002, 01:42 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by typoon:
Who do you feel are the greatest cartoon characters? According to TV Guide the top 50 are: Who else do you think should be here which one(s) should be replaced?

1. Bugs Bunny
3. Rocky and Bullwinkle
10. Cartman
14. Daffy Duck
17. Betty Boop
20. Popeye
33. Tweety and Sylvester
38. Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner
45. Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale<hr /></blockquote>After I heard that BB got #1, I figured that just meant they did it right. Kind of a credability test. Bugs Bunny is the best cartoon character ever, especially if you limit the sample to the period from 1940 to 1960.

The ones I eliminated from the list you posted are ones I can do without, especially "Scooby Doo", who was always awful. Scooby makes Cartman look like a good character, not that Cartman needs Scooby's help.

Most of the time when I watched cartoons as a kid, I was existing through the filler cartoons, just waiting for the next BB one. Not much beats the "Rabbit of Seville", for instance. God, but that is awsome.

I'd add "Stan & Kyle" from South Park, maybe some of the characters from "Wizards", and definitely the girl from "Heavy Metal". I don't know if movie characters qualify, though.

By the way, doesn't Bullwinkle trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat sound like a software developer, in a way?

[ 08-01-2002, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: denim ]

cenutrio · Aug 1, 2002, 01:57 PM

My top three,

1. BB
2. Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner
3. Jessica Rabbit
<a href="http://www.gigisdolls.com/pics/Barbie/rabbit.jpg" target="_blank">Ole!</a>
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

cjrivera · Aug 1, 2002, 02:21 PM

What?

None of G-Force (from Battle of the Planets)?

No Optimus Prime?

No Jem (she was truly Outrageous)? ...just kidding on this one

No Marvin the Martian? This makes me so angry!

typoon · Aug 1, 2002, 02:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cjrivera:
What?

None of G-Force (from Battle of the Planets)?

No Optimus Prime?

No Jem (she was truly Outrageous)? ...just kidding on this one

No Marvin the Martian? This makes me so angry!

<hr /></blockquote>Hell Yeah. Battle of the Planets Ruled. How bout the Transformers in general.

true where is Marvin?

cjrivera · Aug 1, 2002, 02:59 PM

I also would nominate...

SuperChicken
Zan and Jana (the Wondertwins)
Robin (the Boy Hostage)
Chim Chim and Spridel (from Speed Racer)

Evangellydonut · 03:42 PM

1) Rei Ayanami
2) Kirika (Noir)
3) Spike (Bebop)
4) Subaru (Hack Sign)
5) Asuka (Evangelion)
6) Gendou (Eva)
7) Isamu (Macross+)
8) Fay (Bebop)
9) Vash (Trigun)
10) Alita (Battle Angel)
11) Misato (Eva)
12) Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell)
13) Deedlit (Lodoss Wars)
14) Chii (Chobits)
15) Ed (Bebop)
16) Niea (Niea Under 7)
17) Doraemon (Doraemon)
18) Ebichu (Ebichu)
19) Fuse (Jin Roh)
20) Vicious (Bebop)
21) Tamahome (Fushigi Yuugi)
22) Chichiri (Fushigi Yuugi)
23) Guld (Macross Plus)
24) Jubei (Ninja Scroll)
25) Kagero (Ninja Scroll)
26) Rukawa (Slam Dunk)
27) Key (Key the Metal Idol)
28) Su Kaolo (Love Hina)
29) Kamui (X)
30) Folken (Escaflowne)
31) Priss (Bubblegum)
32) Ayu Tsukimiya (Kanon)
33) Lum (Urusei Yatsura)
34) Lina (Slayers)
35) Hilda (OutlawStar)
36) Dita (Vandread)
37) Narusagawa (Love Hina)
38) Sawa (Kite)
39) Kaoru (Eva)
40) Chidori (Full Metal Panic)
41) Testarossa (Full Metal Panic)
42) Ryoko (Tenchi)
43) Lain (Serial Experiments Lain)
44) Alrutena (Noir)
45) Hanamichi (Slam Dunk)
46) Porco Rosso (Porco Rosso, the Flying Pig Story)
47) Kurapica (Hunter X Hunter)
48) Conan (Detective Conan)
49) Suyou (Now and Then, Here and There)
50) Sagara (Full Metal Panic)

Cartoon list soon to come...

typoon · Aug 1, 2002, 03:43 PM

Everyone is also forgetting Tweety and Sylvester.

OwlBoy · 08:47 PM

There are too many greats for a top 50

such as Ed!

-Owl

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denim · Aug 1, 2002, 03:57 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by typoon:
Everyone is also forgetting Tweety and Sylvester.<hr /></blockquote>#33 in the list

[ 08-01-2002, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: denim ]

Footy · Aug 1, 2002, 04:08 PM

I-saa I-saa Boyy I think we're forgetting someone!

denim · Aug 1, 2002, 04:22 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Footy:
I-saa I-saa Boyy I think we're forgetting someone!

<hr /></blockquote>I didn't forget Foghorn Leghorn. I left him off my list on purpose. Him and Pepe LePew.

Or did you mean Yosamite Sam, the roughest, toughest hombre, who ever shot himself in the foot?

[ 08-01-2002, 04:22 PM: Message edited by: denim ]

Patrick · Aug 1, 2002, 04:36 PM

As far as South Park goes, Kenny should also be on the list. Granted the shows creators eventually got sick of him and killed him off for the last time, he was the best running joke on the show. The only cartoon character I've ever seen on TV that used foul language without being censored (if you could understand what he was saying), in addition to being killed and torn apart by rats every episode.

And as far as The Simpsons goes, just about every recurring character on the show should be on the list.

Evangellydonut · 03:36 PM

Originally posted by OwlBoy:
There are too many greats for a top 50 such as Ed!
-Owl

*Bebop Spoiler*

She's the biggest reason why girls like Bebop, as far as I gather anyway...I have friends who cried when Ed left! (compared to Spike at the end...when Fay didn't even cry for him though she loved him...)

It's too hard to make a top 50 for american cartoons though...at least for me ^_^; I can only name like 20...

1) Homer
2) Bugs Bunny
3) Bender
4) Bart
5) Cartman
6) Fry
7) Kenny
8) Warner Brothers & Warner Sister - Dot
9) Batman
10) Wolverine
11) Sylvester & Tweety
12) Daffy Duck
13) Power Puff Girls
14) Dexter
15) Storm
16) Donald Duck
17) Elroy Jetson
18) Fred Flinstone
19) Magneto
20) Bevis & Butthead
(that's all I like w/o Old School Disney & Pixar)

Evangellydonut · Aug 1, 2002, 07:21 PM

wow...29 girls, 19 guys, a mechanical cat, and a hamster...the girl vs. guy ratio was closer than I expected @_@ (On 2nd thought, Rosso should replace Mononoke in that list...the flying pig is much more adorable than the wolf-raised princess...so that makes 28:20)

Seems the opposite of American cartoons though...where guys are more offensive/funny/@ss whooping in cartoons...

putamare · Aug 1, 2002, 07:48 PM

<a href="http://www.ripoffpress.com/cgi-bin/loadpage.cgi?id+homepage.htm" target="_blank">The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers</a>, which appropriately takes its place in history immediately adjacent to The Family Circus (at least on <a href="http://www.toonopedia.com/" target="_blank">this list</a>).

MikeM32 · Aug 1, 2002, 09:28 PM

BEST CARTOON EVARRRR!!!!!!!!
<img src="http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/1997-09-25/ren+stimpy-10.jpg" alt=" - " />

Second best is probably Futurama.

Mike

Nonsuch · Aug 2, 2002, 09:30 AM

Evangellydonut: Nothing from Urusei Yatsura? Not even Lum?!

Evangellydonut · Aug 6, 2002, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Nonsuch:
Evangellydonut: Nothing from Urusei Yatsura? Not even Lum?!

Not a fan of the Manga guy (UY, Ranma, Inuyasha), but you are right, Lum should be there, probably replacing Nancy from RoD...and bumped up above Lina Inverse.

starman · Aug 6, 2002, 07:47 PM

Even by the standards of TV Guide's non-articles, that list was lame. It simply doesn't make sense to take characters created in comic strips,

What's the name of the magazine again?

Mike

SupahCoolX · Aug 7, 2002, 12:00 AM

NO WAY that Spongebob should be ahead of Mickey. Though Spongebob is popular right now, he hasn't stood the test of time, in my opinion, to be ahead of Mickey, Porky, etc. Not that I'm a big Mickey fan, but it's the principle.
Oh, and Charlie Brown (w/Snoopy) should be in the top 3.
Homer Simpson, a sentimental favorite of mine, is in a pretty good spot, though

Captain Big Trousers · Aug 7, 2002, 12:11 AM

It's not a real list. It's designed to be controversial (as far as cartoon rankings can be controversial).

I don't see Super Chicken anywhere.

Or Danger Mouse.

But I ain't falling for it.

(Purges from memory).

Nonsuch · Aug 7, 2002, 01:53 AM

Missed this when it was originally posted.

Originally posted by typoon:
How bout Speedy Gonzales, You don't think Bugs or Daffy should be in that list? How bout Taz?

Even if I were including characters created for theatrical cartoons, I wouldn't include Speedy, who's the most irritating character to come out of the Warner stable. Those later cartoons they did with him and Daffy should be destroyed and all memory of them expunged. I would include Taz with great reluctance--he's not funny or interesting, but he's probably been the subject of more starter tattoos than any character in history, and you've got to respect that in a weird sort of way.

Actually, if I were listing theatrical characters only, I would probably put Daffy Duck at the top of the list; I think he's funnier than Bugs, who's often too smug by half (esp. in Chuck Jones' hands).