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Kerrigan
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Aug 16, 2007, 08:02 PM
 
If I recall correctly, in the 20th century the Australians devised a clever method of removing impure races.
     
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Aug 16, 2007, 08:56 PM
 
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Nope, the US invented it
Medical ultrasonography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


TV was a British invention based on the earlier concepts of a German/Polish man, the telephane was also based on the same concepts but never built.
History of television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Granted, but someone else invented the stamp two years later, which people actually used.
Postage stamp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


No, American / British
Refrigeration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Yes it did, it was invented by a Brit
Penicillin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


No mention of Australia
Flu treatment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


No, this was invented by the South American Indians before the 1944 London Olympics, Australia didn't use it till six years later (when they made up their own name). Front crawl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Yes the Americans invented it.
Teleprinter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This has got to be the most Anally retentive thing I have ever done.
but it goes to show that Brass is correct, and Australians do seem to think they are better than they are, but taking credit for other peoples inventions is a bit cheeky.
Sheesh... so much of that is not quite what I was trying to say. Eg, I never said the first flu vaccine was invented in Australia. I guess I should not have tried to summarise so much. I was talking about a particular type of flu vaccine.

For some of your other examples, I can't say how correct they are or mine were one way or the other. Wikipedia says one thing, other web sites say another. I think we all know that the web is not the most reliable source of accurate information.

In any case, I got my list from a couple of other web sites. If they are wrong, so be it, but I woudn't discount them all based simply on Wikipedia.
     
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Aug 16, 2007, 08:57 PM
 
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American, born in New York.

Check my post. I was specifically saying that he was NOT australian. doh!
     
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Aug 16, 2007, 09:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by moonmonkey View Post
Ado, Quantas is not the safest airline in the world 62 people have died in accidents aboard Quantas aircraft. Its just a quote from Rainman, it doesn't mean it real!
I've no idea if it is true or not, but the notion certainly does not originate from Rainman. I remember people saying it well before Rainman was produced. I believe it is (or was) based on the number of crashes (zero at the time?), not the number of fatalities.
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Aug 16, 2007, 09:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan View Post
If I recall correctly, in the 20th century the Australians devised a clever method of removing impure races.
Certainly not devised in Australia, but sadly very much used. 19th Century and 20th. Not something I consider a good source of jest, either.

In HG Wells original 1898 book, "War of the Worlds", he likens the Martian invasion of Earth and their attempts to wipe out humans to the English invasion of Tasmania (Australia) and wiping out the entire race of Tasmanian Aborigines, which actually did happen (the English, not the Martians).

However, Australia is certainly not alone, or even first, in it's colonial attempts at persecuting traditionally native inhabitants. South Africa and even America has their fair share, as do many others. Tasmania is a very small island, and therefore the extinction was relatively easy to achieve (whether it was deliberate or not).
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Aug 17, 2007, 02:57 AM
 
Originally Posted by Brass View Post
Certainly not devised in Australia, but sadly very much used. 19th Century and 20th. Not something I consider a good source of jest, either.

In HG Wells original 1898 book, "War of the Worlds", he likens the Martian invasion of Earth and their attempts to wipe out humans to the English invasion of Tasmania (Australia) and wiping out the entire race of Tasmanian Aborigines, which actually did happen (the English, not the Martians).

However, Australia is certainly not alone, or even first, in it's colonial attempts at persecuting traditionally native inhabitants. South Africa and even America has their fair share, as do many others. Tasmania is a very small island, and therefore the extinction was relatively easy to achieve (whether it was deliberate or not).

Sweeds did this earlier...
And Ive never seen Rainman, I know since the 70s Qantas always had the best reputation.
     
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Aug 17, 2007, 04:29 AM
 
Until they became the first airline to plant a jumbo in a golf course .



7.30 Report - 26/11/1999: Qantas faces tarnished record after fatal Bangkok crash report
     
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Aug 17, 2007, 08:48 AM
 
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Crowded House
The group started off 2/3 Australian (and they were based there), so you didn't really steal them.

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Aug 17, 2007, 12:04 PM
 
I love topgear, that was F*ing amazing.
     
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Aug 17, 2007, 01:00 PM
 
Isn't Peter Jackson Australian?
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Aug 17, 2007, 01:02 PM
 
cue olePigeon.
     
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olePigeon is Peter Jackson?
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Aug 17, 2007, 06:11 PM
 
I think, in general, that we do have an inflated view of our contribution to world society. I think we have this in common with most countries that are seen to be fiercely patriotic.

However, I do think that we punch above our weight in many things. By weight I mean population, GDP and remoteness.

I think the best thing we have invented is the myth that there are animals and bugs everywhere that will kill you. It helps to minimise the number of poms and sepos that come over to fill up the country! You don't need to point out that this is ironic coming from a guy that has left his home country and has gone to live in another
     
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Aug 17, 2007, 10:11 PM
 
What? You mean the drop-bears are not real?
That's it I'm emigrating now!
     
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Aug 17, 2007, 10:37 PM
 
Aren't macadamia nuts from Australia?
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Aug 17, 2007, 11:10 PM
 
So is the great barrier reef, doesn't mean they should take credit for it.

Yes, I think they are australian, damn fine nuts.
     
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Aug 17, 2007, 11:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by jebjeb View Post
I think, in general, that we do have an inflated view of our contribution to world society. I think we have this in common with most countries that are seen to be fiercely patriotic.
Nobody else's is inflated, from what I can tell they all earned it, the US, UK, and most of western Europe have contributed 95% of the brains behind everything we take for granted, so they have a right to be arrogant!
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Aug 18, 2007, 12:44 AM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
olePigeon is Peter Jackson?
No, just a really big fan.
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Aug 18, 2007, 01:30 AM
 
Originally Posted by moonmonkey View Post
Until they became the first airline to plant a jumbo in a golf course .



7.30 Report - 26/11/1999: Qantas faces tarnished record after fatal Bangkok crash report

No airline is PERFECT. But it still is the safest as long as it doesnt get sold off to corps who will compromise for profits.
     
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Aug 18, 2007, 01:58 AM
 
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Two in the pink?
     
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Aug 18, 2007, 04:14 AM
 
Has anyone mentioned Vegemite ... or Errol Flynn .... or the Tasmanian Devil ...
     
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Aug 18, 2007, 04:19 AM
 
Originally Posted by moonmonkey View Post
Nobody else's is inflated, from what I can tell they all earned it, the US, UK, and most of western Europe have contributed 95% of the brains behind everything we take for granted, so they have a right to be arrogant!
Um, China or Japan?

Originally Posted by Max_Doubt_M'Wham View Post
Has anyone mentioned Vegemite ... or Errol Flynn .... or the Tasmanian Devil ...
The Tasmanian Devil technically isn't Australian, I think.
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Originally Posted by moonmonkey View Post
Nobody else's is inflated, from what I can tell they all earned it, the US, UK, and most of western Europe have contributed 95% of the brains behind everything we take for granted, so they have a right to be arrogant!
You appear to be missing the point. Whilst I am quite the fan of patriotism (the British could do with a bit more pride about their country, and not just when the football is on), an extremely common side effect of it is for the patriot to think that their country is better than most others, or that the world would be at an end if it weren't for their country's contribution. I have experience with people like that from many countries.

Moonmonkey, what is your nationality? I wonder if you are from the US, UK or most of western Europe thus "have a right to be arrogant" and excuse the contribution from other countries such as those that Rumor mentioned. If you aren't one of those nationalities, then maybe you are from a country that doesn't inflate its importance, or...

... you aren't one of the people that many of us (including you and I ) are making sweeping generalisations about!
     
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Aug 18, 2007, 10:08 AM
 
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Two in the pink?
and one in the stink.
     
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Aug 18, 2007, 10:11 AM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Um, China or Japan?
Robot dogs and killer toothpaste don't count.
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Aug 19, 2007, 02:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by Max_Doubt_M'Wham View Post
.... or the Tasmanian Devil ...
Hmmm, As a Yank taking the third person perspective here, I never really thought of the Tasmanian Devil as an "Achievement from the last 200 years", but more of a small furry marsupial native to the island of Tasmania, but that's just me.
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Aug 19, 2007, 06:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
The Tasmanian Devil technically isn't Australian, I think.
(not sure what this has to do with inventions, but anyway...)

eh? Why would you think that? If the Tasmanian Devil isn't from Australia, which country is it from?
     
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Aug 19, 2007, 07:01 PM
 
I'm sorry, but I don't believe anybody has the right to be arrogant. Arrogance is rarely anything but offensive.

But aside from that, someone being arrogant about somebody else's achievements, is a little silly. Just because they happen to have been in the same country.

Similarly, although patriotism is a good thing, some people take it way to far, as though the human beings in one country are more value than the human beings in another country. In it's extreme, it could be used as an argument for slavery and all sorts of other inhumane practices (thankfully not many take it to this extreme these days, but people do talk other people down simply because they're not from their own country - senseless).
     
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Oh yeah, what Mastrap said too. They've definitely done a good job on the hot chicks.
Surely you are joking. The average Aussie Sheila are not much better in the looks departement than what their British genes have to offer.

Of course, mine is a different story
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Hmmm, As a Yank taking the third person perspective here, I never really thought of the Tasmanian Devil as an "Achievement from the last 200 years", but more of a small furry marsupial native to the island of Tasmania, but that's just me.
Never mind the fact that Tasmania is part of Australia, but the Tasmanian Devil was also native to mainland Australia before it was rendered extinct there 400 years before European Settlers arrived.

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Aug 20, 2007, 08:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Um, China or Japan?
What has China invented in the last 200 years?
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Originally Posted by moonmonkey View Post
What has China invented in the last 200 years?
Not so much... but several centuries ago, chinese civilisation was supposedly far more advanced than 'western' cultures. Two of their achievements were, Gunpowder/Pyrotechnics, Pasta (noodles).
     
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Originally Posted by moonmonkey View Post
What has China invented in the last 200 years?
School girl fetishes and blurred porn?
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School girl fetishes and blurred porn?
Nope. That was Japan as well

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