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Audio connector - is TRS compatible with TRRS?
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I don't have an iPhone, but I have a Lenovo laptop which has the same kind of audio jack as an iPhone: 4 conductor, tip-ring-ring-sleeve (TRRS) style. I would like to buy an over-ear MONO headset with boom microphone for it, but those devices usually have 3 conductor TRS style plugs. Are they nevertheless compatible? I worry that the sleeve will short-circuit the left and right ear conductors to each other, or will short-circuit it to ground.
Do iPhone users who want an over-ear mono headset microphone have to buy something specially iPhone compatible, or will one designed for a laptop work as well?
Thanks.
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Clinically Insane
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The sleeve will short-circuit the mic.
Left and right phones will work fine.
Having somebody solder an adapter to make the mic work and kill one side of audio is trivial, though.
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Thanks. I found a great blog which shows the pinout for this plug: iPhone Headset Plug | GeekSpeak
I can now clearly see why the mic will be shorted out, as you say. Both Monster and HeadsetBuddy offer adapters which tap off the microphone conductor onto a separate jack.
However, even though you indicated that the left and right phones will work fine, I'm still unsure about them. I found this quote in the TRS Connector entry on Wikipedia: " However, grounding one channel may also be dangerous to the equipment if the result is to short circuit the output of the right channel amplifier." This is what I'm afraid of. I guess what I really need to build is a TRRS plug to TRS jack adapter, wired like this:
Left: Plug tip to Jack tip
Right: Plug Ring A to nothing
Ground: Plug Ring B to Jack Ring
Mic: Plug Sleeve to Jack Sleeve
Does that make sense? Or am I worrying too much?
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The phones will work fine. Tip and ring are left and right, respectively, and have been for forty years.
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Trying to figure out why I don't seem to be able to understand your answers... Did you miss the fact that I'm using a MONO headset? There is no distinct left and right channel on the plug from a mono headset. If I'm not mistaken, the plug has ground on the first (and only) ring. That will ground the right output channel, won't it?
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No. 2.5 mm jacks are those stupid miniature jacks that showed up on a couple cellphones, and nowhere else.
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True, but 2.5mm to 3.5mm TRS adapters are easy to come by, and the mono headset I have just happens to have one of those stupid 2.5mm plugs on it :-).
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