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Jan 4, 2024, 02:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by Brien View Post
That looks like Utah with tumors.
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Jan 23, 2024, 04:51 PM
 


$4K per, and apparently make excellent grow-lights.
     
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Jan 23, 2024, 05:09 PM
 
Am I reading this right - they stole the headlights, while leaving the tires & whole car? Is the cat still there too?
     
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Jan 23, 2024, 05:28 PM
 
AFAIK, just the headlights.

I get the impression this was done without power tools, so noise was probably a factor in leaving the cat. Maybe the same with the wheels? I don’t know much about parts burgling.

I assume it’s probably easier to fence the headlights.

I do hear cats getting stolen outside my window at 3AM, but I always imagine those to be Kias or Corollas.



As an aside, I remember some theft deterrent device commercial talking about your car having $25,000 worth of parts in it. No shit? I definitely need to steal my own car.
     
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Jan 23, 2024, 07:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I do hear cats getting stolen outside my window at 3AM ...
Man, you so need to move to a better neighborhood. That isn't normal. You should be hearing Garfield getting romantic at 3AM. Something to throw a shoe at.
     
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Jan 24, 2024, 05:07 PM
 
How did the alarm not go off?
     
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Jan 24, 2024, 05:56 PM
 
No impacts. They were probably using power shears, which don't make a ton of noise or vibration.

Some luxury cars have incredibly expensive lighting assemblies, which is really obnoxious.

Example I know about is the caddy XLR (caddy corvette). Check out the taillight pricing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116041885988
     
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Jan 24, 2024, 07:16 PM
 
That has nothing to do with luxury and everything to do with an extremely limited supply. That's a used OEM taillight, so it's going for market value, which is high. I assume because somehow the XLR has even older average owners than Corvettes and they can't help backing into shit and breaking lights.

F-150 taillights on the higher models have built-in blind spot sensors and MSRP on those is over $1200 each. Those don't just have $0.50 1156 bulbs that you can replace, if it burns out you're replacing the whole assembly. Big yikes on that one, I'll keep my old truck.
     
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Jan 24, 2024, 07:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
F-150 taillights on the higher models have built-in blind spot sensors and MSRP on those is over $1200 each. Those don't just have $0.50 1156 bulbs that you can replace, if it burns out you're replacing the whole assembly.
When the assembly price is that high, I'd think it would be worth component repair. If the failure is just some LED elements, those can be replaced by an electronics tech. Likewise the (sonic?) blind spot sensor. The higher the assembly price, the more affordable a repair gets.
     
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Jan 25, 2024, 02:54 AM
 
I saw dashcam video of LED array headlights that automatically adjusted not to shine directly at other cars. I want to say it was a Polestar.
     
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Feb 12, 2024, 03:03 PM
 
Street Guardian SGGCX2 dashcam started to flake out. Probably fixable, but 6½ years feels suspiciously like a duty cycle to me. I liked it. Only complaint is some glitch left the time zone permanently stuck on Australian Eastern time.

Settled on a Viofo A229 Pro, which nets me a newish sensor and a bump to 4K. Appears to use about half the compression of its competitors. Seems like a no-brainer.

I know it’s a huge additional expense, but I’m seriously considering not using the supplied 2K rear camera and instead getting an entire second unit dedicated to the rear. I’m not sure I buy into the idea it’s acceptable for a rear camera to be lower quality.
     
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Feb 12, 2024, 07:01 PM
 
Installing the rear cam is always a pain, especially on a pickup or other utility vehicle. But the dedicated-cam route is easy, as I have a couple old cams lying around. Mostly 1080p though.

Try mounting your old cam on the back. It may be more reliable out of sunlight. Also, change the memory card. A lot of cam problems trace to failing mem cards that can no longer keep up with the data stream. ie - shorter than usual video files, recording gaps due to file deletions taking too long, etc.
     
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Feb 12, 2024, 07:59 PM
 
I mentioned the glitch where it’s stuck on Australian Eastern Time. That’s where it was born. If the sun throws it the thing is broken on principle.
     
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Feb 13, 2024, 01:35 PM
 
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Installing the rear cam is always a pain, especially on a pickup or other utility vehicle. But the dedicated-cam route is easy, as I have a couple old cams lying around. Mostly 1080p though.
This part of the pain can be somewhat mitigated. While I’m still having a bear of a time finding a mechanic I was able to successfully find a Pimp My Ride guy. It’s the type of project I’d enjoy doing myself, but my garage is very tight and poorly lit.
     
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Feb 14, 2024, 07:32 PM
 
Dashcam arrived. A duplicate unit in the back would require the window adhesive to cross a defroster wire.
     
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Feb 14, 2024, 08:53 PM
 
Quick Google search points towards this not being a big deal. I was concerned about the defroster affecting the adhesive or the camera, but apparently the bigger issue is damaging the wire when it’s time for removal.

Apparent solution there is a heat gun.
     
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Feb 15, 2024, 02:06 PM
 
Old cam used mini-USB. New one is C. Very tempted to leave the wiring in place and use an adaptor tip.
     
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Feb 15, 2024, 04:41 PM
 
If it's only used for power, it could be OK. Every extra connection is an extra point of failure. But millisecond power interruptions won't do any harm - the cam has onboard power for at least several seconds.
     
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Feb 15, 2024, 06:02 PM
 
Just power. If I don’t use the included rear cam it’ll be the only wire going into it. That’s a sidegrade. The Street Guardian had an outboard GPS I can now yank, but the integrated GPS might be adding to the Viofo’s (rather significant) chonk.
     
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Feb 16, 2024, 07:51 PM
 
I have a question unrelated to subego’s dashcam. I see this a lot - mostly on riced cars…what’s the deal with making the rear suspension tilt the wheels inward at the top? What does it do?

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But does a Civic that’s seriously lowered really benefit from negative rear wheel camber (and the last car I saw with this had only the rear wheels visibly angled)? As I said, I see this on vehicles that can frankly be called “riced”, and not necessarily in a complimentary manner. What I’ve seen is closer to the “stance car” in the Wiki article you linked, not nearly as extreme, but also on cars that aren’t nearly as well executed.

Not throwing shade here, just wondering if what I’d been seeing was more “it looks cool” than anything else.

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Feb 17, 2024, 11:36 PM
 
It’s hella dub slammed bro
     
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Feb 18, 2024, 08:08 PM
 
I fully recognize that some people’s hobbies are not things other people understand. I also recognize that some folks who substantially modify their vehicles do not do so well, nor with an eye on function.

The car that made me think of this is a very pretty Honda del Sol that’s slightly lowered, but its rear wheels have a very noticeable negative camber, and that triggered a bunch of visual memories, such as 1960s-era VW Beetles with swing axles and apparently zero springs or shocks. So I wanted to know why one might work at getting a look that I associate with a failed/worn out suspension.

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Feb 19, 2024, 10:16 AM
 
It started as a race car thing. More camber = more fast.



And with all trends that start as functional improvement, there's a subset of people that take it to the extreme as a style choice. That's how you get donks, trucks lifted to the sky on little rubber band mud tires, and stance bros.
     
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Feb 22, 2024, 02:51 AM
 
Yes and no. It's also just a function of the suspension design, if you lower a vehicle. On most cars, if you lower it, the wheels tilt inwards, due to where the wheel pivots. So if you want a 'really low car', you're going to get camber like that unless you start modifying/lengthening upper control arms and whatnot. Since lowered street cars are more to just 'look cool' than actual track performance, most people don't bother. Low is cool. Too much of anything is not good though.
     
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Feb 22, 2024, 08:56 PM
 
OK, that makes sense with a lot of the lowered cars I see around here. Some to a lot of negative camber, and probably the lower they go, the more camber they get.

A stock WRX is kinda low, but it can definitely be a street car too. Ditto the Civic Type R. But both models have suspensions built for that low ride height, and the wheels are visually upright.

So this “lots of camber” thing is (often?) an artifact of lowering a car without changing the suspension parts? Lots of stuff makes more sense now.

I’m still not throwing shade. I’ve seen some awesome vehicles that were so customized they screamed “LOOK AT ME!!!!”. But I’ve also seen McLarens, Ferraris and Lamborghinis on the same streets with Civics from three body style generations back and still sporting (different colors of) primer all over.

And that puzzles me. I don’t get something about how people have these project cars but don’t seem to finish them.

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Feb 22, 2024, 10:46 PM
 
Might have something to do with running out of money. This can happen if the wife opens the credit card bill first.
     
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Feb 23, 2024, 09:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
OK, that makes sense with a lot of the lowered cars I see around here. Some to a lot of negative camber, and probably the lower they go, the more camber they get.
We're talking about two different things. If you go low, you end up with a couple extra degrees of negative camber. If you want to look "stanced," you install a kit to cause extreme levels of camber.

This car is lowered:


This is not just from lowering the car:
     
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Feb 23, 2024, 12:24 PM
 
I see. It’s not just lowering, it’s going for the look.

Serious question: what is the ride like in cars that are “stanced”? I’ve seen lowered cars go over bumps with a variety of impacts - some very literally impacts. Are these cars as uncomfortable to ride in as they seem?

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Feb 23, 2024, 02:05 PM
 
they look broken.
     
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Feb 23, 2024, 04:42 PM
 
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Serious question: what is the ride like in cars that are “stanced”? I’ve seen lowered cars go over bumps with a variety of impacts - some very literally impacts. Are these cars as uncomfortable to ride in as they seem?
If you want a nice ride, drive your dad’s Buick

Looking at that pic, I’m reminded how grateful I am to live in a one-plate state. None of that fugly plate-on-the-front nonsense here.
     
 
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