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Mac Man
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Jul 1, 2006, 02:34 AM
 
Its now official, the Macbooks now come with a darker and smoother trackpad. This update is for the Macbook week 25 and up.

It sucks for me, I'm stuck with the deffetive trackpad.
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 03:05 AM
 
It's 'official', eh?

So where's Apple's press release on the topic? Couldn't find it. Would you mind posting a link?
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 03:19 AM
 
Stop being so skeptical. And by the way i didnt get the information from a press release.

Anyway it sucks for us who have the defective trackpads, that's the prize we pay for buying new products.
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 04:04 AM
 
I've just got a week 25, so maybe I have this new trackpad. But what exactly is the difference? I would say mine is a similar shade of white to the exterior case, but matte not shiny.
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 06:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mac Man
Stop being so skeptical.
You have a post count of 23 and offer not a single link yet you use words like 'official'. If I want to see you back that up, that has nothing to do with being skeptical. Would you now be so kind and share a link or a source with us?
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 09:10 AM
 
The trackpad is serviced as a part of the top case. If your top case were to discolor and be replaced, you would get a newer trackpad (where newer is date of manufacture.)

Whether or not there are two different trackpads that have shipped on MacBooks, I haven't seen with my own eyes.
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 10:37 AM
 
I'm confused.. was there something wrong with the previous trackpad?
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 01:16 PM
 
Yes, the previous trackpad became yellowish after a while.
     
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Jul 1, 2006, 09:33 PM
 
BS... I have a week 19 white mb and have NO discoloration... you are implying all the pre-25 week macbooks have a "defective" trackpad...
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Jul 1, 2006, 09:48 PM
 
Well all i can say is, the week 1 and week 24 of the Macbook productions have the same trackpad, so if some people have defective trackpads, you should to, why? because there the same. If your not experiencing this problem, then great, but its strange because everybody has the same trackpads in there Macbooks, that are under week 25.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 01:14 AM
 
How do I find out which week I have?
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Jul 2, 2006, 01:42 AM
 
I'm not a veteran by any means here, but is it possible to ban Mac Man. I've seen nothing out of his mouth besides implied slander towards apple. While I myself am no apple fan boy, I really hate opening a post only to find his rumor mill spinning and mis-informing others who are gullible enough.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 02:12 AM
 
This is true, I visited my local Apple Store today and the trackpads use to be lighter than the plastic casing now its darker, and smoother. Love it
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 02:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by SLiMeX
How do I find out which week I have?
Look at your serial number. It will be something like 4H620xxxxxx. The first two charcters stand for the factory where it's made (4H is the Asus plant in Suzhou/Shanghai AFAIK), 6 means in year 06, 20 means week 20 and the rest of the characters encode the hardware model and production number (in that week).
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 02:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mac Man
Well all i can say is, the week 1 and week 24 of the Macbook productions have the same trackpad
That's BS again. There is no such thing as week 1 and week 24 when it comes to MB production. It's either week 20 and 24 (week 20 was the first production week) or weeks 1 and 4 (if you start counting from week 20. Do you actually have a MB or are you making this stuff up along the way?
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 02:54 AM
 
Juba310, i don't like talking bad about Apple, all i say is the truth . But sometimes the truth hurts. I really like Apple products. All I'm saying is pure facts. There's nothing wrong with that.

Simon, i do have a Macbook. About the week thing, i made a mistake, but what Im trying to say is that week 25 and week 24 have different trackpads. Stop trying to find any little misspell or error just to say its BS. Do you find this entertaining?
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 04:06 AM
 
Not at all. I just prefer valuable posts rather than noobs trying to jack up their post count by posting whatever fart crosses their minds.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 09:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by Simon
Look at your serial number. It will be something like 4H620xxxxxx. The first two charcters stand for the factory where it's made (4H is the Asus plant in Suzhou/Shanghai AFAIK), 6 means in year 06, 20 means week 20 and the rest of the characters encode the hardware model and production number (in that week).
Thanks, I actually have the exact 5 first letters and numbers you have posted - 4H620.
Oh well, I'm content with my trackpad. I wasn't even aware that there was a defect...
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Jul 2, 2006, 09:40 AM
 
Hey Simon, you should respect me, because i haven't called you any bad names.

What i said in the post is true.
     
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Respect on a board like this is earned. By posting meaningful things actually.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 11:26 AM
 
Originally Posted by SLiMeX
Thanks, I actually have the exact 5 first letters and numbers you have posted - 4H620.
That was the first production batch. Is yours white or black?

Oh well, I'm content with my trackpad. I wasn't even aware that there was a defect...
My trackpad is working like a charm too. The problem doesn't seem to pertain to single production weeks or something.
     
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I wrestled with taking my BlacBook back due to the Trackpad...THe clicker is not as responsive on the left-most side. Since I am righ-handed, I click mostly on center and right - whch work just fine... I would have hated to return the machineand get a different issue. Too late now anyway.At least I don't have to worry about discoloration....I also just purchased Apple Care, so hopefully I can have hte option of a futuer repair.
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I don't have to do noting for respect. You don't know me, i don't know you, so just because i write in a way you don't like, doesn't me you can disrespect me.
     
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Originally Posted by Mac Man
I don't have to do noting for respect. You don't know me, i don't know you, so just because i write in a way you don't like, doesn't me you can disrespect me.
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Jul 2, 2006, 07:05 PM
 
Just to put in my two cents...


I came back from the Mac store (in Bethesda, MD) today and the trackpad does indeed look darker. When i was questioning about the display models, the guy actually told me that they had recently replaced all the display models.

I was there to get my MacBook checked up on the Moo if you are really interested.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 07:09 PM
 
Thank you wako.
     
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Originally Posted by Mac Man
I don't have to do noting for respect. You don't know me, i don't know you, so just because i write in a way you don't like, doesn't me you can disrespect me.
if you don't have to do anything for respect, then there is no point in having or not having respect. respect is not a "baseline." you earn both respect and disrespect.

regardless, i think you have a point mac man. if the trackpad is different and attached to the top, then there are new trackpads.

but i think the thing that irritates everyone is that you used the word "official" when there is no indication that Apple has made a formal statement. If there was a recall or something of that nature, then it would be different.

PS - people are more likely to respect you if you demonstrate proficiency in spelling and/or grammar in your posts. but hey, it's not like my opinion is "official" or anything like that. (or is it............?)
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Jul 2, 2006, 07:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mac Man
Thank you wako.
It's hard to respect you when you are consistently the start of a rant..
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 08:00 PM
 
I already said that English is not my primary language, so its pretty hard for me to write perfect.

I really think, I can use the word official, because i know what I'm saying. Trust me, I wouldn't dare say it 's official if i had doubts.
I don't think we have to wait until Apple says it's official, to say there are new trackpads.

Harrigan, I don't start the rant, the problem is some people don't like others to so say facts about there products.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 09:00 PM
 
If everyone on this board thought that their instincts were "official," and factual, then this site would be more like macrumors. It is okay for your intuition to guide you, however, I think it is outrageous for you to pass off the information as legitimate, and now, after several posts, state that you define your own word as "official."

Thank you for admitting you are a crock so we can disregard your posts, or you could be truthful and use "In my opinion," or "I think...." like most of us do.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 09:02 PM
 
I can't believe people get so pissed of about the word official, i mean if i know its true, why the heck can't i use "official" come on guys give me break.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 09:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mac Man
I can't believe people get so pissed of about the word official, i mean if i know its true, why the heck can't i use "official" come on guys give me break.
because this THE most useful and helpful mac-related forums around, and we don't need newcomers/switchers to be misled or confused by bad information. This forum was extremely helpful to me when i switched to macs a year ago.

i'd like to think the standards are higher in these forums, and i, for one, would like to keep it that way. It's like going to a help desk and not knowing how helpful/truthful the information is going to be.

I'd also like to agree with HarriganC's post. It is right on target. the difference between Mac man's "official" and the actual "official" makes a big difference when dealing with Applecare. and i don't think "well, Mac Man on macnn forums said that ...." (or anyone else's comments) will make a big difference with warranty issues.

ps - i apologize to mac man about my comment about grammar/spelling. I did not know english was not his main language. I can appreciate how much effort it takes to have such a broad vocabulary in another language.
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Originally Posted by Mac Man
I can't believe people get so pissed of about the word official, i mean if i know its true, why the heck can't i use "official" come on guys give me break.
official |əˈfi sh əl| adjective of or relating to an authority or public body and its duties, actions, and responsibilities : the governor's official engagements. • having the approval or authorization of such a body : French is the official language of Quebec. • employed by such a body in a position of authority or trust : an official spokesman. • emanating from or attributable to a person in office; properly authorized : official statistics. • often derogatory perceived as characteristic of officials and bureaucracy; officious : he sat up straight and became official. noun a person holding public office or having official duties, esp. as a representative of an organization or government department : a union official. DERIVATIVES officialdom noun officialism noun officialize verb ORIGIN Middle English (originally as a noun): via Old French from Latin officialis, from officium (see office ).
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 09:57 PM
 
Look guys, you and me know that what i said is true.

If you want to hear the word official come out of Apple's word, then go call them.

What i said hear is extremly helpful for other people here, beacuse now they can call Apple, so they can reapir there trackpad.

Apple is a very good company, but if they miss up on a product, the people who pay are the costumers, so we deserve a replacement for any kind of defect.
     
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Jul 2, 2006, 10:09 PM
 
You guys are getting upset because he used the word official because it ruins the integrity of this forum/website?!

If you guys havent seen the HOMEPAGE talks about the topic. In fact if you click on it and read the story, it says "Apple has officially recognized the issue, and is offering those afflicted laptop owners with a replacement top case." You guys better start flaming the webmaster because obviously the integrity is DEFINITELY at stake now. Holy crap are we all in trouble


Oh by the way, the story is Here. However Im sure you all already know since you all frequent this website alot right?
     
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Originally Posted by wako
You guys are getting upset because he used the word official because it ruins the integrity of this forum/website?!

If you guys havent seen the HOMEPAGE talks about the topic. In fact if you click on it and read the story, it says "Apple has officially recognized the issue, and is offering those afflicted laptop owners with a replacement top case." You guys better start flaming the webmaster because obviously the integrity is DEFINITELY at stake now. Holy crap are we all in trouble


Oh by the way, the story is Here. However Im sure you all already know since you all frequent this website alot right?
This particular issue is justified, however, I have been a witness to other threads in which this individual claims "officiality," that he can't justify.

Back to the original post, if your trackpad is "defective," why are you stuck with it? Apple is now acknowledging, and correcting customers affected by the manufacturing error.
     
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HerriganC, can you tell me something i said in this forum thats not true?
     
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Originally Posted by Mac Man
Look guys, you and me know that what i said is true.
Actually we don't.

I have yet to see one link, post or whatever from a trusted source that indicates people can now just walk in and have their problems fixed. Instead we have some noob with a post count of 37 that registered a couple of days ago lecture us on how to post on a board I've been a regular on for more than 5 years. Hint, hint.

I want a link or a decent source. If you can't deliver that, you're either trying to deceive people or trying to attract attention. It's that simple.
     
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There's not one thing i said here that's not true. Also if you what me to respect you, you should stop calling me a noob.

And by the way, you were a newbie to this forum also, so stop discriminating against us.
     
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Originally Posted by Simon
Actually we don't.

I have yet to see one link, post or whatever from a trusted source that indicates people can now just walk in and have their problems fixed. Instead we have some noob with a post count of 37 that registered a couple of days ago lecture us on how to post on a board I've been a regular on for more than 5 years. Hint, hint.

I want a link or a decent source. If you can't deliver that, you're either trying to deceive people or trying to attract attention. It's that simple.


Did you not read my post? If you dont consider MacNN a decent source than I guess you have been on the wrong boards

About the post count... Just because someone doesnt have good post count doesnt mean they are bad member or have no creditibility. For all I know you could be a terrible member that has been trolling these forums for 5 years, bumping, and spamming.
     
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HerriganC, can you tell me something i said in this forum thats not true?


"I was reading some blogs and fourms about people complaining about there Macbook flaking and now look here there is another person complaining so for does who say is fake they are wrong its happening people are just going to have to accept it."

"I went to the Apple store and the guy who worked there told me that they have the new revision B Macbooks. The new revision eliminates some problems the revision A had and also told me that the heat issue was fixed. So does who waited are in luck, just make sure that when you buy your new Macbook it says revision B."

"Yes its 100% true."


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Hey ben about the the black macbook flaking, come on there are pictures all over the Internet

Actually, I've seen exactly two. Considering that already thousands of MBs have been produced and sold, I'd say 2 is chicken sh!t.

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many people have experience the same has me, just ask dmachine33.

So in your book 'many people' is equal to one?

Common, time for a reality check.
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I don't find nothing wrong with them, i said the truth, thats's what matters here.
     
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This thread has been totally de-railed, totally defeating the object of a forum setup - this thread should be locked.
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Originally Posted by wako
Did you not read my post? If you dont consider MacNN a decent source than I guess you have been on the wrong boards

About the post count... Just because someone doesnt have good post count doesnt mean they are bad member or have no creditibility. For all I know you could be a terrible member that has been trolling these forums for 5 years, bumping, and spamming.
All the article said was that Apple has accepted that there is a problem with their plastics and they are addressing the issue. No where is it said that they have altered or changed anything in manufacturing to suggest that Week 25 MacBooks have different trackpads. Find that for me in that article.

Until then, this thread still has no basis.
     
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Ok, pheonixash here is some information for you, read this.

And look at the part were is says "Those with discolored MacBooks should contact AppleCare and inform them of the stain problem. The replacement top case should no longer have this issues, nor will the newest Macbooks as Apple seems to have changed the plastic, the newest MacBooks having a much smoother feel to them in those areas, while the ones with the problem feel rough."

I said the truth, so there you go.
     
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Speaking as as an even newer noob here . . . coming onto a board with an established sense of community, making "official" allegations with nothing but "it's true!!!!! respect me!!!!11!" to back it up probably isn't the best way to establish one's credibility.

That said, it could be true. I guess we'll see.
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raekon, i have to talk like that, because I'm tired of people talking bad about me. I like many others, have limited patience.
     
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Originally Posted by Simon
That's BS again. There is no such thing as week 1 and week 24 when it comes to MB production. It's either week 20 and 24 (week 20 was the first production week) or weeks 1 and 4 (if you start counting from week 20. Do you actually have a MB or are you making this stuff up along the way?

Well Simon that is actuall BS as my Ser iss 4H6191Nxxxx so I guess mine must have been made before they were made... MB W 2GH 2GB 100G... perhaps u should take time to think before flaming others
     
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Mac Man, establish your arguments with credible sources, or you will be hounded for everything you say in these forums. Most of the members here are the "prove it" types, including myself.

If you don't have anything to substantiate your claims, then you'll appear as nothing more than one of the countless trolls who throw out ridiculous assertions for whatever reason suits them at the time.

I welcome you here, but you have to have proof to validate your claims. SOLID proof.
     
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Also simon, about the black macbook, here is more evidence about the Macbook flaking.

I agree with Nobackup, you should think before flaming others.
     
 
 
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