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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
BTW I am 100% serious
If she didn't post it in seriousness, pretend I did.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 01:07 PM
 
Gossip is Priebus and Bannon were against this hire.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 01:17 PM
 
Priebus is obvious. Bannon is interesting.

God damn I want a Tarantino buddy movie about those two.
     
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I said the man has integrity.
He's going to do an interview with Sean Hannity. I now consider your integrity claim thoroughly debunked.
     
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He's going to do an interview with Sean Hannity. I now consider your integrity claim thoroughly debunked.
There's more than enough of the Spiceman to go around.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 02:14 PM
 
I have to retract it, it's an on message sit down with Reince and Mooch. I believe you consider this part of his integrity.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 02:20 PM
 
We'll have to see what goes down, but assuming Spicer is doing it to insure a smooth handover despite the circumstances, I'd say it shows both integrity and class.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 02:30 PM
 
I'd say it merely shows party loyalty.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I'd say it merely shows party loyalty.
Are loyalty and integrity inherently incompatible?
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 02:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Priebus is obvious. Bannon is interesting.

God damn I want a Tarantino buddy movie about those two.
Because you want to see them slaughtered in a gun/swordfight?
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 02:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Are loyalty and integrity inherently incompatible?
Depends on what you're measuring. Isn't Comey like example 1a here?
     
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Because you want to see them slaughtered in a gun/swordfight.
Not necessarily.

I like Reince, and while I don't really like Bannon, I don't hate him as much as everybody says I'm supposed to. Besides, their deaths wouldn't resonate with the audience unless they're sympathetic characters on some level.

There's no way it could end other than Reince shooting Bannon, which precipitates everything falling to pieces, but it's more about the journey than the destination.

Everyone will be aware of the destination going in anyway. It's a Tarantino movie.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 03:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Depends on what you're measuring. Isn't Comey like example 1a here?
I don't think it's fair to hold a professional party operative to the same standards as a prosecutor/LEO.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 03:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I don't think it's fair to hold a professional party operative to the same standards as a prosecutor/LEO.
Let me go thand s way then, which occurred to me after I posted: can one have integrity in a profession where lying is a prerequisite? How does one display that integrity?

Edit: Question 2: Can Sessions be described as having integrity when his boss denigrates and challenges his competence and ability and then does nothing.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Let me go thand s way then, which occurred to me after I posted: can one have integrity in a profession where lying is a prerequisite? How does one display that integrity?
My integrity claim is based on my belief he operated as an establishment mole first and Press Secretary second.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 04:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
My integrity claim is based on my belief he operated as an establishment mole first and Press Secretary second.
Difference of opinion then. I categorize that more as party loyalty. Which we have entirely too much of.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 04:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Difference of opinion then. I categorize that more as party loyalty. Which we have entirely too much of.
I understand what you're saying about party loyalty, but I approve of the establishment desire for Trump not to fly off the rails.
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 04:57 PM
 
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I understand what you're saying about party loyalty, but I approve of the establishment desire for Trump not to fly off the rails.
Yep, forgot about that point. But how does that fit with resigning?
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 08:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
their deaths wouldn't resonate with the audience unless they're sympathetic characters on some level.
GoT spoiler:

 
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 10:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Yep, forgot about that point. But how does that fit with resigning?
The ability to do surreptitious damage control is based on rank within the administration. The establishment faction just got hobbled.
     
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
GoT spoiler:

 
I haven't seen it (yes, I know that's crazy), but I'm guessing the structure isn't the same. Two hours of only wanting the leads to die is a tough row to hoe.
     
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Being a full-time malcontent pays: https://www.fightforthefuture.org/ateams/

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Jul 22, 2017, 11:53 AM
 
I don't think A-Team means what they think it means.
     
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Jul 22, 2017, 12:57 PM
 
Note to MSM: keep dragging out the most unflattering pictures of Sarah Huckabee you can find. It really helps cement your lack of bias.
     
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Jul 22, 2017, 03:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I just realized why press briefings aren't televised. Trump can't complain if he can't see them on tv.
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 12:30 AM
 
If you love palace intrigue, current word is the Mooch wants the FBI to investigate Priebus for leaking his financial disclosure docs.
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 01:39 AM
 
Now we know who him and Bannon will go after first in my Tarantino movie.

"Nice ear you've got there... Mooch."
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 03:39 AM
 
Why is Jill Stein so obsessed with Hillary? Surely any leader of the green party should consider Trump enemy number one by a several country light years.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 07:43 AM
 
Here comes the boom: "House Judiciary Committee votes to probe Comey and Clinton’s 2016 campaign"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1848afc92769

Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee voted Wednesday to request documents about former FBI director James B. Comey’s conversations with the Obama administration and journalists, amending and replacing a Democratic resolution that was designed to obtain documents about Comey’s firing by President Trump.

“In my district, my constituents say, ‘Hey, what’s going on with investigation of the crimes of the previous administration?’ ” said Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), one of the amendment’s sponsors. “When I hear talk that this contains right-wing conspiracies — well, I’ll tell you, my constituents think what’s going on in the other bill are left-wing conspiracy theories.”

The amendment was a surprise to Rep. Primala Jayapal (D-Wash.), the freshman who had proposed the Democratic resolution of inquiry, which had been expected to fail. In a heated markup, Jayapal and other committee Democrats expressed amazement that Republicans wanted to resurrect questions about the defeated Clinton campaign.

“There appears to be deliberate stonewalling to stop any inquiry into the questions facing us today,” she said. “You want to have another beating of the dead horse of Hillary Clinton and her emails? Fine, I’ll include it. But let’s have another opportunity to debate.”

But over several hours, the drama and farce of the 2016 campaign — and even Bill Clinton’s 1998 impeachment — played out again between Judiciary members. Rep. Steve Chabot (R-Ohio), an impeachment manager and a senior member of the committee, chastened Democrats who said that Clinton had been impeached over a mere sex scandal.

“Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury,” said Chabot. “It had something to do with the fact that he had a history of sexual harassment of women.”
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Jul 27, 2017, 06:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
If you love palace intrigue, current word is the Mooch wants the FBI to investigate Priebus for leaking his financial disclosure docs.

Mooch: Who leaked that to you?
Ryan Lizza: I can't give you that information.
M: What I’m going to do is, I will eliminate everyone in the comms team and we’ll start over.
L: [Laughs]
M: I ask these guys not to leak anything and they can’t help themselves. You’re an American citizen, this is a major catastrophe for the American country. So I’m asking you as an American patriot to give me a sense of who leaked it.

M: Is it an assistant to the President?
L: Like I said, I can't tell you this.
M: O.K., I’m going to fire every one of them, and then you haven’t protected anybody, so the entire place will be fired over the next two weeks.

L: Why is it so important this dinner was kept a secret, surely it would have become public at some point?
M: I’ve asked people not to leak things for a period of time and give me a honeymoon period. They won’t do it.

M: They’ll all be fired by me. I fired one guy the other day. I have three to four people I’ll fire tomorrow. I’ll get to the person who leaked that to you. Reince Priebus—if you want to leak something—he’ll be asked to resign very shortly

M: Reince is a ****ing paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoiac... 'Oh, Bill Shine is coming in. Let me leak the ****ing thing and see if I can cock-block these people the way I cock-blocked Scaramucci for six months.'

M: I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock. I’m not trying to build my own brand off the ****ing strength of the President. I’m here to serve the country.


     
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Jul 27, 2017, 06:50 PM
 
This is what you voted for, Republicans.

Like I said, he's Trump.
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 06:54 PM
 
Reminder: He's been there less than a week.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
This is what you voted for, Republicans.

Like I said, he's Trump.
Minus the ADD.
     
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Minus the ADD.
80s Trump.
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 07:23 PM
 
Mooch is definitely a bard.
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Jul 27, 2017, 09:28 PM
 
Speaking of bards, holy shit... Huckabee was on ****in' fire today.

Wonder Woman wishes her bracelets could deflect like that.
     
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Speaking of bards, holy shit... Huckabee was on ****in' fire today.

Wonder Woman wishes her bracelets could deflect like that.
Hmm? I didn't see much other than she had like, no answers.
     
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Hmm? I didn't see much other than she had like, no answers.
Are you kidding?

Press: Do you have any comment on the Communications Director's upcoming Night of the Long Knives?
Huckabee: You mean our rejection of groupthink?

****in' brilliant derail. There's no comeback to that. She's worth every goddamn penny they pay her.
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 10:13 PM
 
I'll have to check out the transcript tomorrow.
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 10:19 PM
 
Here's the money quote. It's in response to whether Trump still has confidence in Priebus.

"This is a White House that has a lot of different perspectives, because the president hires the very best people. They're not always going to agree. There are going to be a lot of different ideas. Unlike previous administrations, this isn't groupthink."

I don't think I've ever seen a turd so polished.
     
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Are you kidding?

Press: Do you have any comment on the Communications Director's upcoming Night of the Long Knives?
Huckabee: You mean our rejection of groupthink?

****in' brilliant derail. There's no comeback to that. She's worth every goddamn penny they pay her.
We will see once she starts taking questions from P'Lod. That's why they went off camera.
     
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Jul 27, 2017, 11:50 PM
 
Of course, the reality, which I've mentioned before, is despite my devotion to Spicezilla, he sucked at press conferences.

Huckabee has no answers, and she ****in' owns that shit. Spicer's brain isn't wired that way.
     
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Jul 28, 2017, 09:19 AM
 
Spicer job was literally that. He was bad at his job.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Spicer job was literally that. He was bad at his job.
He was a bad press secretary, but an excellent mole.
     
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Down! Goes! Priebus!
     
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I'll make a thread.
     
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Not that I or anyone cares, but the first dem declared for 2020 today, and I think it's safe to say between a two term president and the Hillary pre-coronation that the Democrats may make the GOPs 14 2016 candidates look small by comparison. 2020 is going to be a clown show redux.
     
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Jul 28, 2017, 07:21 PM
 
Looks like students on college campuses aren't the only ones who need safe spaces
First, that 48 percent of conservative respondents would allow courts to fine media outlets that publish stories "which are biased or inaccurate." Only 16 percent would oppose doing so, and 37 percent are unsure.

For liberal respondents, 24 percent favor fines, 29 percent oppose them, and 46 percent are unsure.

The second statistic indicates that 37 percent of conservatives would allow courts to shut down biased media outlets, while 23 percent would oppose doing so, and 39 percent are unsure.

For liberals, the results are inverted: 22 percent support shutting down media outlets, 40 percent oppose, and 38 percent are unsure.
Are the liberal numbers good? Nope. And to be honest, in the heyday of Fox at the height of Bush admin, I probably would have said yes as well.
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You mean Bush?
     
 
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