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Jul 28, 2017, 07:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
You mean Bush?
Yes. I corrected it. Freudian slip.

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Looks like students on college campuses aren't the only ones who need safe spaces
First, that 48 percent of conservative respondents would allow courts to fine media outlets that publish stories "which are biased or inaccurate." Only 16 percent would oppose doing so, and 37 percent are unsure.

For liberal respondents, 24 percent favor fines, 29 percent oppose them, and 46 percent are unsure.

The second statistic indicates that 37 percent of conservatives would allow courts to shut down biased media outlets, while 23 percent would oppose doing so, and 39 percent are unsure.

For liberals, the results are inverted: 22 percent support shutting down media outlets, 40 percent oppose, and 38 percent are unsure.
Are the liberal numbers good? Nope. And to be honest, in the heyday of Fox at the height of Bush admin, I probably would have said yes as well.
     
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Jul 28, 2017, 08:44 PM
 
It's demonstrably worse now. Has your opinion changed?

If so, how do you account for it?
     
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Jul 28, 2017, 09:01 PM
 
"Looks like students on college campuses aren't the only ones who need safe spaces"

What a weird statement. Safe spaces on college campuses aren't about finding the truth, they're about protecting students from reality.
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Jul 28, 2017, 09:31 PM
 
These days it's so hard to tell the difference between Gizmodo and Jezebel.

http://gizmodo.com/how-new-technolog...abo-1797339090

How New Technology Could Threaten a Woman's Right to Abortion

In April, scientists achieved a major breakthrough that could one day drastically improve the fate of babies born extremely prematurely. Eight premature baby lambs spent their last month of development in an external womb that resembled a high-tech ziplock bag. At the time, the oldest lamb was nearly a year old, and still seemed to be developing normally.

This technology, if it works in humans, could one day prove lifesaving for the 30,000 or so babies each year that are born earlier than 26 weeks into pregnancy.

It could also complicate—and even jeopardize—the right to an abortion in an America in which that right is predicated on whether a fetus is “viable.”

“The Supreme Court has pegged the constitutional treatment of abortion to the viability of a fetus,” I. Glenn Cohen, a Harvard Law School bioethicist, told Gizmodo. “This has the potential to really disrupt things, first by asking the question of whether a fetus could be considered ‘viable’ at the time of abortion if you could place it in an artificial womb.”

TL;DR: "This amazing life-saving technology could improve lives of millions of people and premature infants, but let's rant about abortion instead, because that's far more important."
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Jul 29, 2017, 12:27 AM
 
Mooch just got fired by his wife.
     
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Jul 29, 2017, 11:38 AM
 
He'd been "laid off" (separated from her) for a year, though.
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Jul 29, 2017, 11:40 AM
 
I wonder if she's vindictive.
     
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Jul 29, 2017, 01:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by @Mooch
Family does not need to be drawn into this. Soon we will learn who in the media has ****ing class and who doesn't. No further comments on this. Pricks.

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Jul 29, 2017, 07:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
These days it's so hard to tell the difference between Gizmodo and Jezebel.

http://gizmodo.com/how-new-technolog...abo-1797339090




TL;DR: "This amazing life-saving technology could improve lives of millions of people and premature infants, but let's rant about abortion instead, because that's far more important."
I tried to find the jpeg from an email our former Freescale CEO sent out regarding our product going into a NICU IV system designed especially for those ] super preemies.
     
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Jul 29, 2017, 08:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Mooch just got fired by his wife.
No, Mooch offered his resignation to his wife. She accepted
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Jul 30, 2017, 01:34 PM
 
Oh jeez... she's 9 months pregnant.
     
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If he's not been around for a year, and she's 9 months along... I can see why it didn't work out.
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
I tried to find the jpeg from an email our former Freescale CEO sent out regarding our product going into a NICU IV system designed especially for those ] super preemies.
Surely your idea of 'super preemie' is a used tissue?
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Surely your idea of 'super preemie' is a used tissue?
I see where you're confused. I'm not inclined to teach you how reproduction works, but I can assure you that blowing your nose isn't part of that process.

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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Surely your idea of 'super preemie' is a used tissue?
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I see where you're confused. I'm not inclined to teach you how reproduction works, but I can assure you that blowing your nose isn't part of that process.

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So you're saying they're good for wiping away perspiration after a workout too? I hadn't thought of that.

I give up, you're on your own. Geez...
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Jul 31, 2017, 09:48 AM
 
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Jul 31, 2017, 10:26 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
It's demonstrably worse now. Has your opinion changed?

If so, how do you account for it?
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Age and perspective
I approve of you adopting and maintaining this civil liberties position in the face of adversity.

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Jul 31, 2017, 12:19 PM
 
Let me put it this way: I would have a lot of radical positions if they were either workable or moral. Finding an objective truth by which to shut down inaccurate outlets is unworkable. I have to settle for slander and libel laws doing their best. And the Alex Joneses of the world escaping karma.
     
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And down goes Scaramucci.

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The leaks have now spread to the media
The comments, made to The Wall Street Journal and obtained in a transcript by POLITICO
     
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If you forgot Lindsey was a warhawk: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-ko...m_npd_nn_tw_ma
Military experts have said there are no good options for peacefully stopping North Korea, although the National Security Council has previously presented Trump with possibilities that could include putting American nukes in South Korea or killing Kim Jong Un.

Graham said military experts are "wrong" that no good options exist.

"There is a military option to destroy North Korea's program and North Korea itself," he added.
     
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North Korea has over ten thousand artillery pieces aimed at Seoul, and with just those conventional weapons the death toll would easily be in the hundreds of thousands. (The Seoul metropolitan area has about 25 million inhabitants.) Add to that hundreds of thousands of victims on the North Korean side, and that is probably the best case scenario where a North Korean nuclear strike either doesn't happen or isn't successful. And that's a big if. Korea need not aim at New York or Los Angeles, it could take aim at Tokyo (> 35 million people).

A direct attack would be horrific, and only a measure of last resort.
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
If you forgot Lindsey was a warhawk: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-ko...m_npd_nn_tw_ma
He's saber rattling.

That "wrong" sentence looks damning, but I note it actually contains only one word by the guy.
     
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie View Post
North Korea has over ten thousand artillery pieces aimed at Seoul, and with just those conventional weapons the death toll would easily be in the hundreds of thousands. (The Seoul metropolitan area has about 25 million inhabitants.) Add to that hundreds of thousands of victims on the North Korean side, and that is probably the best case scenario where a North Korean nuclear strike either doesn't happen or isn't successful. And that's a big if. Korea need not aim at New York or Los Angeles, it could take aim at Tokyo (> 35 million people).

A direct attack would be horrific, and only a measure of last resort.
Small point... FWIU, NK can't really "strike" with a nuke yet. The best they can do is drive one to the border.

Any attempt to fly it in a plane to SK would get shot to pieces before it left NK airspace.
     
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I get it's low class to go here, but am I really expected not to say anything about Sarah's side ruffles?
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Small point... FWIU, NK can't really "strike" with a nuke yet. The best they can do is drive one to the border.
But they have had missiles that can reach Japan for years now and recently tested ballistic missiles that could reach the US. Where have you heard that at least the intermediate range missiles aren't armed with nuclear war heads? (Since I live in Japan, I'd really like to know.)
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But they have had missiles that can reach Japan for years now and recently tested ballistic missiles that could reach the US. Where have you heard that at least the intermediate range missiles aren't armed with nuclear war heads? (Since I live in Japan, I'd really like to know.)
Google "North Korea miniature nuke".

The general consensus is they can't make one small enough to fit on a missile. For me, the first link, counters the prevailing opinion with three overall arguments.

1) List of U.S./SK military and IC people who have gone on the record stating NK can.
2) Argument there is a benefit to everybody else lying (it delegitimizes NK's program, thus making NK seem less scary)
3) Iran and Pakistan can, and may be willing to pass it along.

So, there seems to be a question, but that link was the first I had ever seen it raised.
     
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Some might even work well enough that the N Koreans blow up themselves. IMO, this is more about keeping L'il Kim from massacring his own people in an attempt at full-blown war.
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Wow, people really hate Hillary, even now. If the election was held today, she'd probably still lose.



https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...n-donald-trump

It really was a case of "anyone but Hillary", it seems. She's just slimey AF and almost no one trusts her.
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You gotta love Twitter, with bots like these, who needs real supporters?

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Wow, people really hate Hillary, even now. If the election was held today, she'd probably still lose.

It really was a case of "anyone but Hillary", it seems. She's just slimey AF and almost no one trusts her.
The reasons no-one likes her have nothing to do with her whatsoever.

The fact she's less popular than Trump even after several months of his chaotic, unprofessional, laughing stock "management style" is a horrifying indictment of the American people's judgement.

A two year old can see she'd be orders of magnitude better than him. A non-American two year old obviously.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Some might even work well enough that the N Koreans blow up themselves. IMO, this is more about keeping L'il Kim from massacring his own people in an attempt at full-blown war.
Is that a bet you want to take? I live in Japan and was in Incheon (the city Seoul's international airport is located in) last week, so this might actually quite literally hit home.
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Christ, someone leaked Trumps call transcripts with Mexico and Australia. That is unprecedented. I'm not even sure what the motivation would be, other than to keep the White House off balance and uncomfortable.
     
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The deep state needs a complete purge, no other way around it.
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Is that a bet you want to take? I live in Japan and was in Incheon (the city Seoul's international airport is located in) last week, so this might actually quite literally hit home.
If we couldn't stop everything he launches before it leaves his borders, no.
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The reasons no-one likes her have nothing to do with her whatsoever.

The fact she's less popular than Trump even after several months of his chaotic, unprofessional, laughing stock "management style" is a horrifying indictment of the American people's judgement.

A two year old can see she'd be orders of magnitude better than him. A non-American two year old obviously.
You sure about that? I see a lot of reality-show level drama, a bunch of wasted taxpayer dollars, and a general degradation of America's moral fiber, but the only difference Hillary would have brought is that she would have been much more subversive in her screwing of America.
     
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The deep state needs a complete purge, no other way around it.
There's an argument to be made they're opening a box which can't be closed.
     
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I have a lot of problems with people having so much power for, what essentially becomes, the rest of their lives. I feel the same way about SCOTUS justices. IMO, they should have a single 12 year term and done.
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There's an argument to be made they're opening a box which can't be closed.
Yeah that'd be the issue with this one. Restoring internal norms as much as external ones after Trump will be a real challenge.
     
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The internal "norms" are part of the problem.
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You sure about that? I see a lot of reality-show level drama, a bunch of wasted taxpayer dollars, and a general degradation of America's moral fiber, but the only difference Hillary would have brought is that she would have been much more subversive in her screwing of America.
This is where the both-sides talk irks me. I don't think Hillary is some noble spirit, but don't the difference in their policies and competence count for something?
     
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You sure about that? I see a lot of reality-show level drama, a bunch of wasted taxpayer dollars, and a general degradation of America's moral fiber, but the only difference Hillary would have brought is that she would have been much more subversive in her screwing of America.
Any politician capable of getting elected in any country is going to screw a whole bunch of people somehow. In a place where you have to be a billionaire to get elected, more screwing will be required. But any Democrat is going to screw the poorest and most vulnerable people less than any Republican. Hillary would also have done far less damage to America's reputation than Trump is doing.
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This is where the both-sides talk irks me. I don't think Hillary is some noble spirit, but don't the difference in their policies and competence count for something?
There's nothing competent about Hillary, she's botched just about everything she's handled (WRT politics).
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There's nothing competent about Hillary, she's botched just about everything she's handled (WRT politics).
It's weird what you perceive as failure: she was elected to the Senate, served as Secretary of State and was a presidential candidate with a very significant lead in the public vote. She lost the presidential race, yes, but that doesn't mean that she failed at everything in politics. A difference in political opinion should not cloud your judgement on what counts as success.
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My problem Hillary is she's scary competent.

Almost one year to the day she got the dressing down from Comey, the ****ing State Department (i.e. not vast right wing conspiracy) officially announced she had information on her server which was classified at the time.

Again, let me make this clear. This was July 2015.

Her team gaslighted the entire country for a year about this. Like, successfully.

Her "good intentions" don't make this less frightening.
     
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It's weird what you perceive as failure: she was elected to the Senate, served as Secretary of State and was a presidential candidate with a very significant lead in the public vote. She lost the presidential race, yes, but that doesn't mean that she failed at everything in politics. A difference in political opinion should not cloud your judgement on what counts as success.
Almost anyone with money can win elections, and her achievements were from Bill's success.
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Almost anyone with money can win elections, and her achievements were from Bill's success.
No, she hasn't just won elections, but she has wielded power and has had a major influence on politics for >10 years. I think it is sexist to claim that she was riding on Bill's coat tails, it's not as if Bill was holding her hand in the war room or when she met with foreign leaders. I think you are blinded by your dislike of Clinton.
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My problem Hillary is she's scary competent.
Yours is a much more realistic and balanced take than CPT's: separating skills and success from the policy positions is smart. And your use of the word “scary” is a more apt response from someone critical of Clinton: The reason that McConnell or Clinton are perceived by some to be scary is precisely because of their success. Mitch McConnell has certainly been successful at what he was aiming for — until January at least. It's easy to denounce someone as a failure, just because you don't believe in what they stand for.
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Her "good intentions" don't make this less frightening.
I would just remove the quotation marks here, I think very few people have consciously bad intentions, from their perspective they are trying to do good — even if you disagree with the goals they support or with the way they achieve these goals.
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