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Oh. Yeah. I think my earlier comment applies - the more OTT, the less interesting. Pitch Black is both the best movie and the least informative about the "universe".
     
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Nov 25, 2015, 07:37 AM
 
I would argue the mindless blockbuster has been a cinematic staple for decades now. Thoughtful SF movies are very much marginalised.
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Nov 25, 2015, 07:39 AM
 
40K would make for some awesome movies. Surprised no-one has tapped that rich vein yet. I do wonder if it would hit a few Tolkien-shaped legal issues though.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Not everything is a "teaching moment" and people who believe that are massive buzzkills.
Movies that are about nothing are essentially boring however big the exploding things on screen. It might not be a "teaching moment" but character development etc are what brings the interest.

Otherwise, Michael Bay
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Originally Posted by Doc HM View Post
Movies that are about nothing are essentially boring however big the exploding things on screen. It might not be a "teaching moment" but character development etc are what brings the interest.

Otherwise, Michael Bay
I wasn't talking about character development, think Avatar. *bleh*
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The problem with Avatar was that it sucked.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Shortcut View Post
Oh. Yeah. I think my earlier comment applies - the more OTT, the less interesting. Pitch Black is both the best movie and the least informative about the "universe".
I would agree with you under most circumstances, and certainly agree when it comes to The Matrix.

With these two movies however, I just can't put them in the same universe together. Pitch Black is in our universe... only it's the future, and biology makes no sense. Chronicles of Riddick is in the Star Wars/Dune/40K universe, with spaceships that dogfight, aliens who can warp out of existence, prophecy, all kinds of crazy, hardscrabble planets, ground battles using Napoleonic tactics... and a space Nazi who can rip out you soul.

Don't get me wrong, I'm on the hard science team when it comes to science fiction, but I'm not unmoved by kitchen sink crazy.

In fact, I'd say the major flaw in the movie is it didn't dial it up a few more notches. The Necromongers (okay... that's a dumb name) needed kewl powarz, and while the idea for the surface of Crematoria was cool, the actual prison was dull. It's just this big hole in the second act.

If you fix that, have Judi Dench show, not tell all the expository bullshit, ask Thandie Newton to stop nomming the scenery, and move the Riefenstahl stuff to the end, this would have been a brilliant movie.

Oh, and fix New Mecca. It looked like Disneyworld.
     
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
40K would make for some awesome movies. Surprised no-one has tapped that rich vein yet. I do wonder if it would hit a few Tolkien-shaped legal issues though.
I don't see any. Black Library gets a pass.

I'm thinking they're stuck in a catch-22. They need a certain amount of money to make it work, but no one is willing to pony up that much dough without a proven track-record of theatrical releases.

They'd need to find a way to make it cheap, and not half-ass it at the same time. I don't think that's possible.
     
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
I would argue the mindless blockbuster has been a cinematic staple for decades now. Thoughtful SF movies are very much marginalised.
I feel Gravity and The Martian are pushing it in the right direction.
     
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The problem with Avatar was that it sucked.
True that, but the over the top "white men, corporations, and the military are evil" narrative didn't help.
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That certainly added. It felt very hollow.
     
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I don't see any. Black Library gets a pass.

I'm thinking they're stuck in a catch-22. They need a certain amount of money to make it work, but no one is willing to pony up that much dough without a proven track-record of theatrical releases.

They'd need to find a way to make it cheap, and not half-ass it at the same time. I don't think that's possible.
Warhammer as fantastic as it is, is essentially a massive rip-off of LOTR. 40k is the same thing with better tech. You're probably right that its sufficiently different to make any case very long and contentious.

I always thought it was a money issue too but there are a few original unproven movies that have made it with big budgets on a first run. It certainly has a rich supply of fans from the tabletop and video games.
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Nov 27, 2015, 01:41 PM
 
Side note: GW raped Warhammer with Age of Sigmar for maximal copyright purposes.
     
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Dec 24, 2015, 01:06 PM
 
Finally saw Star Trek: Into Darkness. Didn't think it deserved its own thread.

I had fun, and was entertained, but man was that a weak script.

I was elated to see Robocop working in the industry again, but then they had to go and saddle him with garbage.

Unsurprisingly, Karl Urban got the best line of the movie... "are you out of your corn bread mind?"
     
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Think I may have to go Event Horizon.

That's been on the list since it came out. Just never got around to it.
     
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Jan 19, 2016, 12:22 AM
 
Dakar should not see Event Horizon
     
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Jan 19, 2016, 10:43 AM
 
Dakar should not see Ernest Goes to Jail.
     
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Jan 19, 2016, 01:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Dakar should not see Event Horizon
I was already aware, but thanks
     
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One thing the movie cast into strong relief, however...

Spaceship models still kick CG ass.

It was nice to see a spaceship feel like it has actual mass.
     
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Totally don't see any of the Transformer movies.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
One thing the movie cast into strong relief, however...

Spaceship models still kick CG ass.

It was nice to see a spaceship feel like it has actual mass.
I concur.
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Jan 19, 2016, 03:13 PM
 
Kinda wish Event Horizon turned out to be a better movie, though. It had all the pieces.

I usually don't say this about movies, but it needed to be longer.
     
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Jan 19, 2016, 05:56 PM
 
I kind of like Event Horizon, but agree it had more potential than what amounts to a B-movie by the end.

I saw it in the theater, I must have been around 11 at the time, totally freaked me out.

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Event Horizon would have been great if it hadn't turned into Hellraiser by the end.
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I kind of like Event Horizon, but agree it had more potential than what amounts to a B-movie by the end.

I saw it in the theater, I must have been around 11 at the time, totally freaked me out.
In the UK, it had an 18 rating.
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Same here, but nobody cared in the 90s

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Jan 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
 
There's a good topic for a Dakar thread...

What movies did you see at an improper age?

My first entry is Jaws.

At the end, I had shoved my face into the folding seat and was trying to squeeze through the gap. Screaming at the top of my lungs.

My dad felt horrible.
     
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As a flipside, since I'm old, I was 15 before I saw hardcore porn.
     
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The first R rated thing I saw accidentally at the drivein. After the kid movie I fell asleep, but woke up to the gunshots in Network and being freaked out by it. I was 6.

At various tween sleepovers there were R rated horror (elm street, etc) and Fame.

First R rated movie with parental approval was Risky Business, which my mother judged I was mature enough to handle at 16.

Then again, even the Goonies had bad language and stuff that wouldn't fly in a PG movie today.
     
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I'm trying to remember how parental authorization worked.

I remember trying to convince my dad to let me see Excalibur when I was a pre-teen. It took work, but he ultimately relented.

I know a key movie for me was Death Race 2000, which seeing on a black and white TV, cured me of my horrible fear of seeing blood in movies. We didn't even have cable. This would have been OnTV.

I can't imagine asking my dad to see that and him saying "yes". I think I just watched it.
     
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On a related note, Frozen is much more intense and terrifying to a 3-year-old than Star Wars Ep. IV.
     
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I saw Se7en in the theater when I was 10, had to walk out during the scene at the peep show, it was too much for me.

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I don't remember seeing anything violent before I was in my teens. I do remember when a friend had a copy of Starship Troopers, I was probably 13. That was a life changer.
     
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Honestly the most traumatic moment of my childhood that I'll never forget is the Thriller video. That transformation. Jesus Christ.
     
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My neighbour showed my An American Werewolf in London when I was about 7 I think. I just about handled that ok.

Myself and some friends managed to persuade a parent to rent Robocop for us when it came out on video. I think I was about 8 and we watched the uncut version on a loop for a whole weekend.

On the other hand, at about 10, I was not fond of the upside down skinned victims of the first Predator.

As for cinema, I saw Demolition man when I was underage. I think it was a 15 rating and I must have been 13. That was a great movie. In fact, these were all awesome movies.
I think Lawnmower man I saw at 12 or 13 as well. That was a 15 too.

I got told off for watching an 18 when I was employed in a cinema aged 17. Had I been on the clock it would have been allowed but I wasn't. I can't think what film it was now. Something that came out in the first half of 98 I guess. It might have been 54, Alien Resurrection, or Wishmaster.
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Then again, even the Goonies had bad language and stuff that wouldn't fly in a PG movie today.
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I'm trying to think of things which actually freaked me out other than Jaws.

I saw bits of I, Claudius when I was 6, and I found parts unpleasant. Terry Gilliam animations would have been disturbing me around the same time.

I had to cover my eyes in Raiders of the Lost Ark when the Nazi was chopped up by the propeller, but I could handle the melting at the end. I was proud of that because I was still in the afraid of blood phase.
     
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In theory... I am finally going to watch Dredd tonight.

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Dredd has popped up in my Netflix recommendations. Let me know if it's any good.
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I don't believe Netflix is doing a disc service other than in US.
     
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I wonder what ads I am going to get from this thread. I had carpet ads for weeks after that Persian rug thread.
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After all this buildup, I was kinda let down by Dredd.

I think I would have enjoyed it more if I was into the comic.

     
 
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