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brokenjago · Aug 15, 2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by ThinkSecret"

Sources have quietly reported for months that Apple has been working on new Cinema Displays, including a model that would slot in between the 23-inch and 30-inch display, as well as an all-new display exceeding 30-inches. Apple's final plans, including release dates, have eluded sources...

Apple's display line-up is in for a much-needed boost, I think. And while some of their displays have recently become competitively priced (the 30" being $200 less than it's Dell equivalent at this point in time,) it's been over two years with only minor upgrades and price drops.

I think it's high time for a nice, meaty upgrade (along with what I imagine will be massive price hikes

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But I digress. What do you think Apple will include with this new generation of Apple Displays? A new name? A memory card reader a-la-Dell? A built-in IR reciever so you can use the Apple remote with the Mac Pro for Front Row? (By the way, does the Mac Pro even have Front Row?) The option of a built in iSight?

What are your thoughts? I, for one, would not mind seeing a 42 inch ACD

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mduell · Aug 15, 2006, 02:48 PM

iSight, better stand, new sizes (mid-high 20 inch range and mid-high 30 inch range).

brokenjago · Aug 15, 2006, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by mduell

better stand

Can you elaborate? More movement vertically? Horizontal positioning?

hickey · Aug 15, 2006, 03:07 PM

wasn't there talk of a large display with all the Final Cut Extreme rumors floating around.

mduell · Aug 15, 2006, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by brokenjago

Can you elaborate? More movement vertically? Horizontal positioning?

See Dell's stand. 4 degrees of freedom instead of 1.

brokenjago · Aug 15, 2006, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by hickey

wasn't there talk of a large display with all the Final Cut Extreme rumors floating around.

Yes, there was. 42 inches I believe. Expensive as all hell.

asodamiac · Aug 16, 2006, 03:10 AM

Personally, I'd rather not have a built in iSight. A card reader wouldn't be bad, or some more USB ports. If a new ACD is in the works, when would it be announced (an estimate date will be fine). I'm selling a few lenses currently, and I'm unsure if I should put that money to another lens, or to a display. Hrm.

brokenjago · Aug 16, 2006, 03:20 AM

Well, I would agree with you in that the iSight should not be standard, but an option.

hickey · Aug 16, 2006, 11:17 AM

do you think they would include an HDMI port, maybe so you could use it as a hdtv as well.

Landos Mustache · Aug 16, 2006, 11:54 AM

My problem with building in an iSight in such a large display is that it will be too high up and not adjustable independently from the display.

Naplander · Aug 16, 2006, 12:02 PM

If they included an HDMI port I would get one in an instant.

Landos Mustache · Aug 16, 2006, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Naplander

If they included an HDMI port I would get one in an instant.

What is wrong with DVI?

brokenjago · Aug 16, 2006, 01:40 PM

Doesn't HDMI support higher resolutions or something? Also, you can control the display with a remote using HDMI. I think.

brokenjago · Aug 17, 2006, 08:46 PM

Anyone have any more thoughts? That's it? No radical new redesign or anything? Maybe?

brassplayersrock² · Aug 17, 2006, 09:20 PM

well since apple put another or two firewire800 ports on the macpro perhaps the new displays will have 3 usb, firewire, and firewire 800. a man can dream cant he?
a card reader would be nice too JUST MAKE SURE it can read ALL cards.

Alex

oh, and yeah, a 42 inch sized computer monitor would be awesome

brokenjago · Aug 18, 2006, 12:23 AM

What's the point of having a Firewire hub if it only has one of each Firewire port? I thought they were there to expand the ports available, in addition to be easily accessible.

There's no way Apple can make absolutely sure that the card reader would read every memory card ever created, but I imagine they can get pretty close.

badtz · Aug 18, 2006, 06:52 AM

I have a feeling they'll release a display that will use a HDMI type B port (which is backwards compatible with dual-link DVI). Any maybe have people buy a HDMI to DVI converter if needed. Also, the HDMI will have to support HDCP (copy protection), which Apple has publicly agreed to doing, which is part of the Blue-Ray specs I believe (along with HD-DVD). They'll also need to start updating graphic cards with HDMI input.

I want a 30" inch ACD badly right now ... I'm typing on a 17" CRT!

I'm afraid if I buy, something great will be around the corner .... :X [that's always the case unfortunately!]

cyrana · Aug 18, 2006, 07:22 AM

So do they always do a silent spec upgrade and then release totally new stuff? Or perhaps Phillips just quit making the old panel so they had no choice... (not that I've actually seen anyone get the spec bump ones).

I'd love some totally new ones (sans iSight)...

Naplander · Aug 18, 2006, 07:28 AM

With an HDMI port you would be able to use the monitor as a TV right?

I guess you would need a TV card / break out box to get the signal in.

Then you would have a HD TV and lovely computer monitor in one.

Dark Helmet · Aug 19, 2006, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Naplander

With an HDMI port you would be able to use the monitor as a TV right?

I guess you would need a TV card / break out box to get the signal in.

Then you would have a HD TV and lovely computer monitor in one.

You can do that now with DVI

tooki · Aug 19, 2006, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by brokenjago

Doesn't HDMI support higher resolutions or something? Also, you can control the display with a remote using HDMI. I think.

No.

HDMI is simply single-link DVI (with HDCP support) and digital audio in one connector. It supports the same resolutions as any other single-link DVI connector: in practice, 1920x1200.

Dual-link DVI, as required for the extremely high resolution of 30" displays, is not possible on HDMI.

tooki

brokenjago · Aug 19, 2006, 09:47 PM

Oh. Well. Ok. Good to know!

sc_markt · Aug 19, 2006, 09:51 PM

I'd like more pixals/inch, brighter display w/more contrast, and optional glossy display.

- Mark

badtz · Aug 20, 2006, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

HDMI is simply single-link DVI (with HDCP support) and digital audio in one connector. It supports the same resolutions as any other single-link DVI connector: in practice, 1920x1200.

Dual-link DVI, as required for the extremely high resolution of 30" displays, is not possible on HDMI.

tooki

HDMI type B can support very high resolutions (@ 330 Mhz, 24-bit) and can drive a display that a dual-link DVI can.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Aug 20, 2006, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

My problem with building in an iSight in such a large display is that it will be too high up and not adjustable independently from the display.

Maybe the large displays won't have iSights.
only the 20 and 23 inch display.
If your using a display that big your not going to be a person that will be using it on there primary computer. Your usual person on the street will have a 15" to 23" display (non-Apple displays included). Designers will be the people that will be using troughs displays. It would be less of a hassle if you jest buy a MBP with the iSight.

I'd get the 42" display for bragging rights

mduell · Aug 20, 2006, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

HDMI is simply single-link DVI (with HDCP support) and digital audio in one connector. It supports the same resolutions as any other single-link DVI connector: in practice, 1920x1200.

Dual-link DVI, as required for the extremely high resolution of 30" displays, is not possible on HDMI.

Type B HDMI (from the 1.1 or 1.2 spec) supports the same resolutions as dual link DVI, and I believe HDMI 1.3 goes even higher (up to 10.2Gbps).