[real]

Originally Posted by mindwaves

A big laptop that's grown even bigger. No thanks. I'll wait for the 13.3'' whatever.

Second that.

I'd like a 13.3 inch MacbookPro.


real

[real]

Originally Posted by mindwaves

A big laptop that's grown even bigger. No thanks. I'll wait for the 13.3'' whatever.

Second that.

I'd like a 13.3 inch MacbookPro. 17 way to big for my needs.

"Sorry Double Post"


real

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by mindwaves

A big laptop that's grown even bigger. No thanks. I'll wait for the 13.3'' whatever.

Same thickness, same width, only a measly 0.2" deeper... You guys are never happy! I agree a small Macbook Pro is needed (and it's coming don't worry) but I wouldn't make a case of a 17" being even bigger with only 0.2"...

[onlykaria]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Well, if you didn't like the specs of the first release Macbook Pro 15", why did you get it? As if Apple didn't put the drive in just to piss off early adopters...

lame ass

[newportnews]

Well -- I at least feel that Apple will not make an iPod (or anything for that matter) that is FW800 only.

I think Apple included it on the 17" to encourage and upgrade from the 15" -- even if most people will never use it.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by MaxPower2k3

it could still be the thicker one they used in the last PBs that still fits in the 17" because of the extra room (but not the 15")

Yeah, that's what I figure too. When the 15" MBP came out, I wondered why they didn't just make the 15" slightly thicker like the previous PowerBooks. Most of the newest optical drives with the nicer features are 12.5 mm, not 9.5 mm.

Perhaps 9.5 mm dual-layer 8X DVD burners are imminent after all though. Even if so, I just hope we don't go through the 9.5 vs 12.5 mm issue when laptop Blu-ray drives come out.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by onlykaria

lame ass

Why? Because I'm not a whining cry baby everytime Apple release a new product?

[pat++]

Moody explained that FireWire 800 and the faster dual-layer drive — features missing from the 15-inch MacBook Pro introduced in January — were possible thanks to the use of different technology in the 17-inch model.

source: MacWorld http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04...book/index.php

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by pat++

Moody explained that FireWire 800 and the faster dual-layer drive — features missing from the 15-inch MacBook Pro introduced in January — were possible thanks to the use of different technology in the 17-inch model.

source: MacWorld http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04...book/index.php

Different technology like...FireWire 800 and a faster dual-layer drive?

[ericssonboi]

Originally Posted by real

Second that.

I'd like a 13.3 inch MacbookPro.


real

* 3

[HouseSold]

Intel has released the 2.33ghz duo chip already. One would think that this would at least be an option now.
Probably in the 17" MacBookPro and the 15" MacBookPro Rev B with Leopard in September.

Who knows or has heard?

[Yakov]

* 4

[kcmac]

* 5

[Yakov]

has anyone noticed the apple store webpage looks kind of broken right now?

[fisherKing]

Originally Posted by Yakov

has anyone noticed the apple store webpage looks kind of broken right now?

store looks normal here...

am worried that the 13.3" macbook ac adaptor will be so big next to the mac itself...will be like carrying around TWO small notebooks...!


having said that...cmon, apple: bring it on...

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by real

Second that.

I'd like a 13.3 inch MacbookPro.

* 6

(Especially so since I alreaady sold my iBook.)

Originally Posted by fisherKing

am worried that the 13.3" macbook ac adaptor will be so big next to the mac itself...will be like carrying around TWO small notebooks...!

Why are you worried about that?

[Goldfinger]

Have you seen the new adaptors ? They are gigantic.

[onlykaria]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Why? Because I'm not a whining cry baby everytime Apple release a new product?

because i have already explained infy times why i got the mbp15 as it was the least dislikable of all the options for my usage and circumstances, which included not being able to wait. though if it had been all up to me i would of waited for the 13.3 inch but hey). and because it didnt answer the question of why its not included in new 15mbp which is what i was asking. that question was answered by another poster....thanks for nothing.....

[onlykaria]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

* 6

(Especially so since I alreaady sold my iBook.)


Why are you worried about that?

*7 (maybe)
i have a macbook pro 15" and this sucker, kind of sucks... would sell it and get a 13.3 inch mbp thats without all the drama...

[onlykaria]

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

Have you seen the new adaptors ? They are gigantic.

they are bigger than the old ones, but i dont really notice it all that much.

[Velocity211]

Is there some sort of 3D view of the new macbook, cause there's only the front view on apple's site.

Edit: never mind, I found it.

[fisherKing]

Originally Posted by onlykaria

they are bigger than the old ones, but i dont really notice it all that much.

check it out next to the older powerbook adapter...that is ONE big sucker...
(but i won't mind if the 13.3" is worth it!)

[aristotles]

The reason for the a DL in the 17" and not the 15.4" is because the trackpad got in the way apparently on the 15.4" model and they could not fit it in there.

[aristotles]

Originally Posted by slffl

I sure hope the screen opens wider than the 15" MBP. I took the 15" MBP back because the screen faced my chest while it was on my lap. Unfortunately I don't see any indication it will since the 17" pretty much has the same design as the 15" and came out pretty soon after the 15".

Huh? Sor you are sitting with your knees up above your waist and you are wondering why you cannot see the screen?

That explains everything now. LOL

[JeffsJeep04]

Originally Posted by aristotles

The reason for the a DL in the 17" and not the 15.4" is because the trackpad got in the way apparently on the 15.4" model and they could not fit it in there.

So...why did they use the giant trackpad then? Why make it bigger if they can't fit in the current level of features? I've never thought "hmm, I wish this track pad was bigger" but I sure have thought "hmm, a dual layer DVD burner would sure be nice to back this HDD up..."

[mduell]

I'm sure some people will be happy to have a FW800 port; personally I'd prefer a SATA/e.SATA port, but nobody else is offering those yet. I'm happy to see another USB port, but it's still one shy of what I'd really like.

I'm not surprised that the 15" is more expensive than the 17" for the same configuration; people are willing to pay a premium for something smaller and more portable. 7 pounds and a foot and a quarter wide is beyond what I'd want on the couch or an airplane.

I'm still a bit disappointed Apple hasn't embraced the flexability that other OEMs offer in terms of detaching performance from screen size; some people want a 1.66Ghz 17" and others want a 2.33Ghz 13".

The 17" can use a 12mm optical drive, despite being the same thickness as the 15", because it's wider; with the 15" the thickness new extra-large trackpad encroaches in the optical drive bay. Personally I think that's a terrible trade-off.

I'm also disappointed to see the continued use of EC/34 instead of EC/54, espically in laptops so large and heavy (over 5lb and 15"). All of the ExpressCards I'm interested in are the /54 variety.

I'll be interested to see if the graphics card is underclocked in the 17". If it is, I wonder why Apple didn't save a few dollars and go with the X1400 instead.

I'm surprised Apple launched yet another non-HD laptop at a media event. I'd really like to see Apple catch up to where the rest of the portable market was 3-4 years ago offering 133-150dpi screens (as an option, lest the OMGWTFBBQSMALLTEXT!!1!one!1! crowd flame me).

[Star-Fire]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

* 6

(Especially so since I alreaady sold my iBook.)


Why are you worried about that?

*7, I'd sell my 15" and save the bux for a desktop. 17" is just to big for a portable for me.

[JKT]

Originally Posted by mduell

I'm still a bit disappointed Apple hasn't embraced the flexability that other OEMs offer in terms of detaching performance from screen size; some people want a 1.66Ghz 17" and others want a 2.33Ghz 13".

Presumably, the bean counters at Apple don't think that there are enough people wanting such and such to offset the added R&D and manufacturing costs.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by mduell

I'm sure some people will be happy to have a FW800 port; personally I'd prefer a SATA/e.SATA port, but nobody else is offering those yet.

There is an SATA adapter available for the MacBook Pro.

I'm surprised Apple launched yet another non-HD laptop at a media event.

The 15 and 17" MacBook Pros are HD. In fact, even the lowly 13" will be HD too when it gets released. All support 720p.

[Star-Fire]

Originally Posted by mduell

I'm still a bit disappointed Apple hasn't embraced the flexability that other OEMs offer in terms of detaching performance from screen size; some people want a 1.66Ghz 17" and others want a 2.33Ghz 13".

I have to agree, to me small and fast is just sexy. Craming all the speed in a tiny enclousre is just techno-lust

[hldan]

Originally Posted by slffl

I sure hope the screen opens wider than the 15" MBP. I took the 15" MBP back because the screen faced my chest while it was on my lap. Unfortunately I don't see any indication it will since the 17" pretty much has the same design as the 15" and came out pretty soon after the 15".

That's a stupid reason for taking back a whole computer. Complete nonsense.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by hldan

That's a stupid reason for taking back a whole computer. Complete nonsense.

Not really. Why keep a machine if it doesn't jive with your needs?

[Kadman]

I think I may have to take the plunge on this one. It should meet my needs perfectly. While I completely understand that many consider something this large too big to be portable, but I don't really need true portability per se. I just need something that I can move around the house and take out to the patio on nice evenings. I may take it to a relatives house from time to time, but that is certainly not the norm. I had a hard time justifying the premium price on the 15" given the absence of an 8x DL drive and a few other assorted issues, but this new 17" shows promise.

The only thing left now is the negotiations with the wife. It's not that she'll be against me getting it. It's more a matter of what project on her list I'll have to cave on in return. lol

[x user]

My hand slipped at the Apple Store on saturday and I accidently bought a refurb MBP 15". I wanted to wait for the 13.3", but I wanted a new laptop even more, I'll see how I like it pretty soon, my baby is getting sold (12" revB PB) and if I don't like the MBP I'll sell it too. I think the screen size will be a nice step up. I also love the idea of being able to play FS2004 on it .

[jhonizzle]

i'm trying to debate if i should sell my 15" to get the 17". i have a feeling that i'm going to stick with the 15" because it's just right!

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

There is an SATA adapter available for the MacBook Pro.

Thanks, I went looking for one the other day but couldn't find it.

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

The 15 and 17" MacBook Pros are HD. In fact, even the lowly 13" will be HD too when it gets released. All support 720p.

Which neither I nor Apple consider worthy of the "HD" tag; when I say HD, I want support for all the HD standards, not a limited subset of them.

[MOTHERWELL]

Originally Posted by jhonizzle

i'm trying to debate if i should sell my 15" to get the 17". i have a feeling that i'm going to stick with the 15" because it's just right!

I am actually debating on weather or not I should sell my Quad.

I've been trying to clear out some clutter - and after seeing the benchmarks on the 15" vs. the Quad...I dont feel like I will be losing much. (for what I need it for at least)

[mikeini]

i have a quick question:

how does the price of the new 17" MBP relate to its PPC predecessor?

[jhonizzle]

they're almost the same price....go with the MBP

i think it's like a $200 price difference. but when your talking in thousands, you might as well go for the extra $200

[Eug Wanker]

So, the latest iteration 12" PowerBook is now 15 months old (if we exclude the October 2005 non-update). I hope we'll see the 13" within the month.

Originally Posted by mduell

Thanks, I went looking for one the other day but couldn't find it.

It was released today.

Which neither I nor Apple consider worthy of the "HD" tag; when I say HD, I want support for all the HD standards, not a limited subset of them.

Actually, Apple also calls 720p "HD". I do know where you're coming from though.

Still for a laptop I haven't really heard the video guys complaining too much about the 17" PowerBook screen. Their main complaint about those machines is the slow overall speed. I guess they don't need the full 1920x1080/1200 on their laptops, since they can still edit the video fine on a smaller rez screen, and they may be doing their major grunt work with dual 30" dual/quad Power Macs anyway.

But this is just hearsay, since I don't do this stuff. And since I don't, I actually prefer lower resolution screens, because of default text sizes in OS X and its applications.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Actually, Apple also calls 720p "HD". I do know where you're coming from though.

But we're talking about displays, not content, and Apple only adds the "HD" tag to displays that support 1080p.

[zerock]

now its just a matter of time, till the 12" comes out...

[Helmling]

Errrghhh...why can't they squeeze the DL superdrive into the 15! Oh, how it torments me!!!

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Helmling

Errrghhh...why can't they squeeze the DL superdrive into the 15! Oh, how it torments me!!!

Because the extra-wide trackpad overlaps the optical drive bay.

[Brit Ben]

Originally Posted by Helmling

Errrghhh...why can't they squeeze the DL superdrive into the 15! Oh, how it torments me!!!

I'd guess at a MBP 15" rev in August that will add back in the DL drive, about the same time the range gets bumped to 2.0, 2.16 and 2.33 processor speeds.

They're at rev D on the logic boards for the 15" so there's no way I'm getting the 17" right now, no matter how much I like the idea.

The overlap between the drive and the scrollpad is not relevant on a 9.5mm drive, so we're just waiting for the tech to catch up.

There are still a number of issues around the magsafe power adaptor too, and since I have three of the Al power adaptors, and three batteries... bugger

What I'd really like now is a magsafe port directly on the battery, so you can leave a spare one charging somewhere

Peace.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Brit Ben

They're at rev D on the logic boards for the 15" so there's no way I'm getting the 17" right now, no matter how much I like the idea.

Did that come from the often debunked report from DailyTech? Has it been independently confirmed?
Is it true that Rev C is the first production/shipping revision for Intel motherboards? (A and B are pre-production)

[Helmling]

My God...this thing is so gorgeous it makes me want to lick myself. I know that makes no sense, but that's how beautiful a machine this is!

I find myself wondering...would my wife notice if I spent $3000 extra this month?

[macwayne]

The MacBook is gonna rock!! (Hopefully) and it would be real cool if Apple came out with an entry level 12" Macbook at a $799 price point to entice fence sitters. I guess the 13.3 WS will be priced around $999-$1299 for the high end. But I could be wrong, just speculating...

[AC Rempt]

I'm sorry and don't mean to be dense, but DL DVDs are so damned expensive, even though I have a DL burner, I've never burned a DL disk. Granted, this is just my experience, and so I wonder how big a deal a DL burner really is? Am I missing something here?

[Rob van dam]

Can someone tell me why the 17" model is $600 more expensive in Australia compared to the G4 model.