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Just wondering if anyone has had a chance to read the "LCD vs CRT" report. What did you think? For you who haven't yet read it, It basically makes LCD's not recommendable due to poor test results. Any Pros using Cinema Displays or LCD's out there?
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I'm using the Apple Cinema Display.... and I absolutely LOVE it.
It's got great resolution, everything is sharp and clear, the color is vibrant and rich, it was a snap to set up, and has given absolutely NO trouble since the day I plugged it in.
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Originally posted by plaidpjs:
I'm using the Apple Cinema Display.... and I absolutely LOVE it.
It's got great resolution, everything is sharp and clear, the color is vibrant and rich, it was a snap to set up, and has given absolutely NO trouble since the day I plugged it in.
Nice setup, congrats .. and btw are you the person going to Macworld expo? hope you enjoy every minute of it!!! you'll have to let everyone know how it went when you come back.
Do you do any design/graphic work with your display? I am actually thinking of the 15" for myself and a DP533. the displays are very similar in some ways (color capabilities, quality, technology), do you think is suited for design? so many views on this subject - its confusing me.
thank you in advance.
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to me LCDs are Great in 2D.very sharp and bright.
But theres something strange when you play 3D games with them.Everything has little color and it isn't bright anymore. Anyone else noticed this with realtime 3D?
But i don't know the quality of an apple LCD, never worked with one
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You mean a Samsung LCD. That's where Apple gets them from, correct?
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From what I've heard around work (the prepress section of a printing company), the colour on LCDs is kinda 'off'. It's okay if any shade of blue will do, but hard to match things up to, or get a realistic idea of how stuff might look.
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LCD displays have a 'native resolution' which means the resolution cannot be changed without losing part of the monitor's image OR losing image quality.
Otherwise I love my LCD - especially for text.
I haven't noticed anything strange with 3d games...
um, doesn't Samsung make low-end consumer appliances like $59 microwave ovens? Sorry, but Samsung surely doesn't manufacture the best quality components.
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um, doesn't Samsung make low-end consumer appliances like $59 microwave ovens? Sorry, but Samsung surely doesn't manufacture the best quality components.
While I'm sure most of Samsung's computer monitors are not designed for graphics pros, price/performance wise they can't be beat. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 950p (19" CRT) and I love it! After I tweaked the controls to my liking I found it to have some of the most crisp text I've seen on a CRT. The mesh wires are absolutely completely invisible (something I can't say about more expensive monitors). Through ColorSync the color matches nearly perfectly with my Epson printer. And let me tell you, this monitor beats my 19" RasterOps hands down eventhough the RasterOps cost twice as much. 
As for LCDs my boss has a 14" Samsung (don't know which model exactly). It's nice ehough... some shimmer to the picture and the refesh is rather slow. But otherwise the picture quite clear and color vibrant. But it was an early model she bought about two years ago. The LCDs today are much improved. I recently caught a glimpse at Apple's 22" CD and was blown away.
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Apple has it's own LCD production line at Samsung. That's why Apple gave them $100 million a few years ago. They bought their own LCD production line. Supposedly, it has a huge Apple banner hanging over it.
It's true that Samsung makes them, but from what I have seen, the LCDs produced for Apple are unusually good. They must be to a higher standard, because if you have ever seen the Cube LCD, you'll know how incredible it is. Absolutely incredible.
If you want to read a great review of the Cinema Display from Ars Technica, see here:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/4q00/...g4-cube-5.html
You'll love it.
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It's a well-known fact that current-generation LCDs do not hold a candle to current-generation CRTs when it comes to color-critical work.
Having said that, LCDs consume far less desktop space, less power, and produce sharper text.
As others have pointed out, however, there's only one native resolution, and you better like it. The resolution scaling for lower resolutions on LCDs is fine for games (imo) but useless for anything else. Frankly I find the native resolution on all of Apple's displays (except the new iBook) to be too low. I run my 21" ASD at 1600x1200... if I move "up" to a 22" Cinema Display my resolution drops to 1600x1024--no thanks. Same deal with the 15" Studio Display: I like to run 1152x768 or 1280x1024 on a screen that size, not 1024x768.
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What's the dot-pitch of the Cinema Display? On my Samsung SyncMaster 770 TFT (17") it's 0.264 and produces a real sharp image. Every other LCD I've seen that's 17" or larger starts at 0.28 dot-pitch.
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So how does ColorSync affect the usefulness of an LCD display for monitor/printer matching and workflows? Is that the essential question here?
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Originally posted by BuonRotto:
So how does ColorSync affect the usefulness of an LCD display for monitor/printer matching and workflows? Is that the essential question here?
ColorSync is probably helpful but would only be really useful if used in conjunction with a color calibrator device for the LCD.
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Originally posted by plaidpjs:
I'm using the Apple Cinema Display.... and I absolutely LOVE it.
It's got great resolution, everything is sharp and clear, the color is vibrant and rich, it was a snap to set up, and has given absolutely NO trouble since the day I plugged it in.
Just wanted to say I'm jealous of plaidpjs' setup.
WISH I could have a cinema display.
Freelance work in Montana doesn't pay well enough to get a hot system!
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