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May 12, 2015, 07:52 PM
 
I may need to replace my current SUV, a 2005 X5 sooner than anticipated.

I haul stuff, enough I should probably get a van, but that's improbable.

Bigger is better, but there's an upper limit. I'd put that at a Yukon, which is my current top contender.

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May 12, 2015, 07:59 PM
 
The reason it may get replaced is it wants $10-****ing-K in maintenance.

     
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May 12, 2015, 08:37 PM
 
It's a BMW. WTF did you expect? Even the air in the tires costs triple.
     
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May 12, 2015, 08:59 PM
 
I'm not surprised by the cost, but I was expecting it to happen a few more years down the road.
     
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May 12, 2015, 09:17 PM
 
A thread about SUVs. It's missing something. Can't quite put my finger on what ...
     
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May 12, 2015, 09:23 PM
 
What about a largish wagon?
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May 12, 2015, 09:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
What about a largish wagon?
The idea actually appeals, but aren't I going to be talking a downgrade in carrying capacity over even an X5?

Looking practically, the capacity is the most important thing. As I said, I should get a van.

I understand it's a failing in me, but I think a van as my only vehicle would make me glum.
     
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May 12, 2015, 10:00 PM
 
Sounds like you should buy a used truck and a small storage trailer that can be towed.

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May 12, 2015, 10:41 PM
 
If that was practical, I'd just get a Suburban and consider it done.
     
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May 12, 2015, 10:47 PM
 
A hearse, that's the ticket!
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May 12, 2015, 10:50 PM
 
I actually like that idea, but I think it would ultimately make me glum as well.
     
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May 12, 2015, 11:24 PM
 
The Yukon drives like a boat. Horrible, at any speed exceeding 50mph. Scared the living daylight out of me.

We're in the market for a 7 seater as well. Top contenders right now are the Mercedes G class or the Dodge Durango. Same platform, but a serious difference in price.

If you insist on a truck based SUV then the best choice would be the Ford Expedition. The independent suspension at the back makes it behave marginally better than the competition, but nowhere near as nice as the BMW you're used to driving.
     
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May 13, 2015, 01:18 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
What about a largish wagon?
Rob?

Originally Posted by subego View Post
If that was practical, I'd just get a Suburban and consider it done.
Eww.

The new Volvo XC90 should be available soon, IMHO the interior is not as attractive as the old one, but the exterior makes up for it. I will get one if they decide to offer a real 6 cylinder instead of their EDrive engine.
     
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May 13, 2015, 07:38 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I actually like that idea, but I think it would ultimately make me glum as well.
There is no way you could be glum motoring around in one of these, no way.

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May 13, 2015, 07:44 AM
 
Originally Posted by iMOTOR View Post
Rob?
Someone has to hold up the standard, right? I don't hate SUVs, I own two (my beloved Bronco and a Cayenne (that's a problem child)) and they serve a purpose, but most generally suck balls to drive.
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May 13, 2015, 08:22 AM
 
The Jeep GC with the Fiat diesel engine is getting a lot of love on Airstream forums. People are loving them for both towing and hauling ability.
     
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May 13, 2015, 10:10 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
There is no way you could be glum motoring around in one of these, no way.

A friend of mine had one of those back in high school. I got drunk for the first time in my life in the back of that thing. First make-out, too.
     
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May 13, 2015, 11:34 AM
 
This has switched from "may" to "will". I'm having them do the absolute minimum to get the thing to pass an emissions test (so I can renew my plate), and am officially on the hunt!
     
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May 13, 2015, 12:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by Phileas View Post
We're in the market for a 7 seater as well. Top contenders right now are the Mercedes G class or the Dodge Durango. Same platform, but a serious difference in price.
Looked at the Durango. Am I crazy, or is that way too small an engine for something that size?
     
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May 13, 2015, 12:25 PM
 
Not totally against the wagon. Volvo XC70 claims it has equivalent storage to the X5.
     
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May 13, 2015, 12:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by Phileas View Post
The Jeep GC with the Fiat diesel engine is getting a lot of love on Airstream forums. People are loving them for both towing and hauling ability.
I had a (regular) Cherokee before the X5 and loved it.

What bothers me about the current GCs is, well... they look like Range Rovers.

That's a problem for me, because I really want a Range Rover, but can't justify it for hauling. I wish Land Rover still made the models you can wash out with a hose.

The upshot though is a GC would be another "glum" car for me.
     
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May 13, 2015, 01:28 PM
 
When we moved to Canada I thought long and hard about bringing my old Land Rover, but we decided against it in the end. It was a 1964 SWB Model II with a canvas top and I loved that car. Hosable, from top to bottom.

Not all that useful in a climate where it's either freezing or boiling, with little in between.

I'd give the GC a chance. The engine is brilliant, and it has excellent carrying capacity.
     
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May 13, 2015, 01:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Looking practically, the capacity is the most important thing. As I said, I should get a van.

I understand it's a failing in me, but I think a van as my only vehicle would make me glum.
Paint it like the A-Team van. Problem solved.

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May 13, 2015, 04:18 PM
 
I'm leaning towards the Volvo wagon more and more. That's probably the "nicest" car I can get which isn't ridiculous to consider a work vehicle.
     
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May 13, 2015, 04:45 PM
 
I think this is where I usually recommend a Subaru instead. Not sure though which has more cargo space.
     
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May 13, 2015, 04:55 PM
 
subego, do you have a pic of all the gear you'd like to haul?
     
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May 13, 2015, 05:08 PM
 
I don't... I shall create one!
     
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May 13, 2015, 05:25 PM
 
Things change, but this is most of my "basic" load-out.

     
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May 13, 2015, 05:41 PM
 
Now, add a cat to the picture.
     
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May 13, 2015, 05:43 PM
 
Re: New versus Old

If I can expect about 10 years out of a car before it becomes a pain in my ass, isn't paying half for a four-year-old model pretty close to a wash?
     
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Now, add a cat to the picture.
Had I snapped it literally a half second later, you would have had one.
     
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May 13, 2015, 05:45 PM
 
There's room in the bottom right crate.
     
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May 13, 2015, 05:48 PM
 
Tesla Model X
     
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Tesla Model X
Things like that was part of the reason I was hoping for five more years before this car became more trouble than it's worth.
     
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There's room in the bottom right crate.


As good as I can get without touching the pussy.
     
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As good as I can get without touching the pussy.
Looks depressed. "Quick, get in the picture!'
     
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He's irritated I'm waiting for today's UPS delivery for his cat food rather than going to the store.
     
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May 13, 2015, 06:22 PM
 
My brother has this one. It's really nice. Bigger than the X5. But not huge like a Yukon.



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May 13, 2015, 06:53 PM
 
I like the look of that, but I think I may have drank the wagon kool-aid.

It's only got 8 more cubic feet of space than a big wagon.
     
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May 13, 2015, 06:54 PM
 
I was digging on the Volvo, but the internet says I should go with a Subaru Outback.
     
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May 13, 2015, 06:57 PM
 
It will last you 10 years, easy-peasy.
     
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May 13, 2015, 07:33 PM
 
There's one parked out front of my apartment right now. I'm impressed by the cargo space.

This person has the same idea as me on some level. It's clearly a work vehicle.
     
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There's room. Especially if you're not packing 2 kids and a dog.
     
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Crap. Because of Dakar, now I have to pack a cat.
     
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May 13, 2015, 08:09 PM
 
The Outback is gaining traction.

I'm not sure I'm going to get $15k worth of enjoyment out of what the Volvo would give me.
     
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May 13, 2015, 08:12 PM
 
I own a CR-V, which is SUVish. Plenty of room for me.

Just remember that seats fold.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
I'm leaning towards the Volvo wagon more and more. That's probably the "nicest" car I can get which isn't ridiculous to consider a work vehicle.
I endorse them, you looking new or used?
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I was digging on the Volvo, but the internet says I should go with a Subaru Outback.
NO! I've had 2, both ate their own transmissions shortly after 30k miles.
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May 13, 2015, 08:39 PM
 
Both the Honda CRV and the Subaru Forrester will accommodate your gear just fine, and they are way more reliable and less expensive to repair than the Volvos.
     
 
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