[Michel_80]

Ugly as hell

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[0s and 1s]

It is? Looks nice to me. What don't you like about it?

[Link]

Looks nice to me. But I bet it has a desktop P4 which makes it a piece of crap

[Michel_80]

Really? Those curves look bad, plus I doubt it's even close to 1 inch thickness (anybody knows the specs?).

[aricher]

hmmm - maybe he doesn't like the cheesy hinge mechanisms. Or could it be the crappy grey plastic (zoom in to the picture to see). Or could it be the notched microphone and spacers covering the screen bezel. Or could it be the work in progress look of the seam along the front. Maybe he doesn't like the massive (by PowerBook standards) of plastic surrounding all the sides of the display. Or maybe it's the (always annoying) left-set trackpad that screws up the overall symmetrical look. It looks like the much older brother of a 5300 series powerbook

That said, at least it looks better than anything by Dell.

[inigopete]

It looks like their designers have put extraneous curves and swoops in it so that people will think it's "stylish" rather than pointlessly detailed.


: P

[Michel_80]

I have been actually waiting for Sony to come up with a stylish big laptop, but this is just too ugly.

[RooneyX]

Actually the curves aren't too different from the Powerbook G3 and toilet seat iBooks. They make typing comfortable. Right now I'm typing on a 17 Alubook and the corners are poking into the underside of my forearms. A nice curve there would make life easier.

[cszar2001]

Usually Sony`s Vaio`s look good; guess their designer had a real bad day.
I don`t like the "look-I�m made of plastic" look.

[power142]

I've seen worse - look at that hideous thing made by Toshiba!

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by RooneyX:
Actually the curves aren't too different from the Powerbook G3 and toilet seat iBooks. They make typing comfortable. Right now I'm typing on a 17 Alubook and the corners are poking into the underside of my forearms. A nice curve there would make life easier.

It looks to me like they put the curves in the wrong places. The curves are on the sides of the keyboard, not in front of it. There is still a rather sharp edge there to poke into the underside of the forearm.

[heresiarh]

It looks just fine. I'm sure it is a good machine. Sony makes pretty decent laptops.

[Maflynn]

Meh,

It looks ok, so I would call it ugly.

[heresiarh]

You can't really tell from a picture. One has to look at it in person. I've never owned a sony laptop but have heard they are great.

[RooneyX]

I've has 3 Vaios and hated them all because of overheating and crap graphic chips but this is the first good design I've seen from them as long as the above problems are corrected. Their prices for Vaios are stupid though. Powerbooks are priced today better than ever and offer more value than any other brand.

[heresiarh]

Yes powerbooks though have excellent values. My only pc laptop experiences have been with the Dell Inspiron 5100s, great machine, and the compaq laptops which suck so bad that you shouldn't even waste a dollar on them. but hands down, apple does the greatest job.

[Michel_80]

Well I own a VAIO and I think it is very good. So I am not against Sony

[SketchPad]

Ugh,,

You're right Mich...that's the ugliest Vaio I've ever seen.
Sony made a really good looking laptop MANY many years ago
that was a super-thin thing..don't remember what it was called
but I thought they where on the right track then...

...but that thing just reeks ugliness. Plasticy...bulky...blargh...

"Pet's my powerbook 17"

Man I'm happy with my powerbook when I see such alternatives
out there. It's lightyears ahead design wise (not to mention class...)

/T

[Michel_80]

I think you mean the VX series, that is what I have got!

[heresiarh]

is the vx series good?

[Michel_80]

They are not made anymore. The one I got was end of line.
I like it, very nice screen with wide angle and ability to use it in direct sunlight. Overall quality package.

[heresiarh]

i'm thinking of getting the m processor laptops, nice and small. but then again, the ibooks are very tempting. sometimes technology is a pain in the butt.

[bradoesch]

Originally posted by Michel_80:
Ugly as hell

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Looks like you read the inline image guidelines.


Now, about those hinges. Didn't Apple do away with hinges a few years ago? Is their method patented or something? They're so incredibly ugly.

[Lancer409]

sony has a 1.7 pound carbon fiber laptop out. insanely expensive, ultra ultra portable. makes their tr3 look huge .. talk about an anorexic laptop

[Appleman]

It doesn't run Mac OS X

[bkb]

Originally posted by Appleman:
It doesn't run Mac OS X

Which makes it ugly on the inside & ugly on the outside.

[elvis2000]

Originally posted by bkb:
Which makes it ugly on the inside & ugly on the outside.

Sonys are the only laptops that even come close to Apple design standards. At work I'm on a very crappy Dell Latitude laptop... total POS. At home I'm greeting to my lovely and user friendly 15" Powerbook G4. Sony's come close... and I'm sure we would all be buying Sony if Apple suddenly ceased to be.

[Superchicken]

Originally posted by power142:
I've seen worse - look at that hideous thing made by Toshiba!

Which one... there are many...

[sniffer]

Looks like a very generic x86 laptop to me.

[rag on a muffin]

my friend has a very nice toshiba. the 15" one with the harman kardon speakers. thats about my only complaint about macs, their way too quiet.

[heresiarh]

yea quite, somewhat.

[RooneyX]

Where are the specs on this laptop? I can't find it anywhere.

[Appleman]

Originally posted by elvis2000:
.... if Apple suddenly ceased to be.

well, doesn't that sound bad, desperate, negative? It simply isn't a PowerBook. It doesn't even stand close to it: BASTA

[RayX]

Originally posted by Superchic[k]en:
Which one... there are many...

All of them.

[teknik]

I bid them good luck with that single latch.

R&D people, R&D!

[Link]

Originally posted by RooneyX:
I've has 3 Vaios and hated them all because of overheating and crap graphic chips but this is the first good design I've seen from them as long as the above problems are corrected. Their prices for Vaios are stupid though. Powerbooks are priced today better than ever and offer more value than any other brand.

You sympathize with me here I think I generally like Sony products but they seem to really suck sometimes.

I had a vaio desktop that was awesome with it's default install of 95.. HOWEVER the install wouldn't work with IE4, and then when I put a new HD in (it died after like 2 years), the system installer didn't work AT ALL.

This meant using fresh 98 which was fine.. the machine was great but then about 3 years after I got it it'd just lock up randomly.. usually when I'd leave the machine idle. This kept happening until eventually it did it so often the machine wasn't worth using and the OS wouldn't install correctly.

After the P2 days, sony earned a reputation with their desktops of sticking with SIS chipsets and not using enough cooling on their CPUs, which did, indeed suck.

Their laptops are alright but never perfect. That 17" looks interesting and most sonys look WAY better than any dell, ibm, etc.. the only company as cool as sony in the computer sector would be apple

But their quality is as bad as apple..

[Lateralus]

Originally posted by Link:
But their quality is as bad as apple..

...

[bojangles]

Once again, the Wintel world tries and fails. And people will buy it anyway.

Personally, I love our dual-2GHz G5 and iBook G4/800. Granted, the latter is a relatively inexpensive consumer machine (especially these days!), but they�re both wonderful for what they�re designed for, and both blow away any other brand in more ways than I care to enumerate.

[zubro]

have you seen the "add on"?
The pict has been "Photoshoped", the desktop picture is a pix wider on both sides than the actual physical screen...?
What is that about?

[redmango]

Specs... specs

15.4" or 17" inch screen in Wide Screen UXGA
1.8GHz or 2.0GHz Pentium M Dothan processor
80 GB 5400RPM Hard Drive
ATI Radeon 128MB Graphics processor

[rag on a muffin]

Originally posted by redmango:
Specs... specs

15.4" or 17" inch screen in Wide Screen UXGA
1.8GHz or 2.0GHz Pentium M Dothan processor
80 GB 5400RPM Hard Drive
ATI Radeon 128MB Graphics processor

lol powerbook g4 is much better. they do make very nice cameras, even consumer cameras have zeiss lenses.

[RooneyX]

Originally posted by rag on a muffin:
lol powerbook g4 is much better. they do make very nice cameras, even consumer cameras have zeiss lenses.

Erm A Pentium-M Dothan kills a G4 and probably even a G5 at the same clockspeed. And we don't have anything near UXGA resolutions.

But I think redmango was having us on....

[Simon]

OMG it's butt-fugly!

PC people claim Sony has a particularly good design. Well, if this plastic tank is the best they can do the PC world has a very, very long way to go...

Ah, how nice life can be if you own a PowerBook.

[ASIMO]

Sony, the most overrated four letter word since Bose.

[heresiarh]

Hehe, Sony store in Chicago shut down.

[Deal]

Chips in mobile PC's are slow. The only way to get a laptop PC to move fast is to drop it off a high building.

Also, check out the price of a fast PC laptop. Go to Cheapest rip of in the world DELL (who can't even keep their e straight) and max out their top of the line laptop (at 1.6 Ghz) and it will run around $5200. You can't even configure a Powerbook at that price.

Now go to, "oh, we can put a camera in anything", Sony and configure their top of the line 10" laptop and it will come out to $3000. Try to configure a 12" Powerbook to come near that! Makes you wonder what their 17" is going to come to?!?

If I were going to buy a PC laptop it would probably be an Alienware. Better, Faster and cheaper than Dell or Sony and not quite as ugly. Only down side is they are huge and heavy. Can't have everything, unless you buy a Mac that is.

[TheGameguru]

I just got a Compaq NC6000 which is a 14.1" 4.5lbs notebook with a Pentium M 1.6ghz, 1gb of Ram, 60gb 5400rpm Harddrive, Radeon 9600 64mb of Ram, SXGA+ 14.1 screen (1450X1050), DVD/RW Burner, 802.11a/b/g, Bluetooth, 8cell LION Battery, Advanced Port Replicator for $2500

Pretty much run circles around my 15.2" G4 Radeon 9600 64mb G4 powerbook.

There's one thing to love Mac's (which I do) theres another thing to post FUD and be delusional.

[rag on a muffin]

sonys stuff is overpriced, pretty much all mainstream companies are overpriced.

[Lateralus]

Originally posted by TheGameguru:


I just got a Compaq NC6000 which is a 14.1" 4.5lbs notebook with a Pentium M 1.6ghz, 1gb of Ram, 60gb 5400rpm Harddrive, Radeon 9600 64mb of Ram, SXGA+ 14.1 screen (1450X1050), DVD/RW Burner, 802.11a/b/g, Bluetooth, 8cell LION Battery, Advanced Port Replicator for $2500

Pretty much run circles around my 15.2" G4 Radeon 9600 64mb G4 powerbook.

There's one thing to love Mac's (which I do) theres another thing to post FUD and be delusional.

No, posting FUD is saying that a 1.6GHz Pentium-M with a Radeon 9600 'runs circles' around a 1.25GHz+ G4 with the same video.

There's only two ways to slice that: Either you're full of ****, or your PowerBook is screwed up in some way.

[Xapplimatic@Ade]

Those swoops on the front are just soooo ugly.. And that chin-see plasticy look.. ugh.. those door-frame style hinges.. the thick borderered screen....the ugly latching mechs.. It may not have a floppy disk, but it looks like a flop to me. And a hardwired switch to turn off its wireless networking? Just something else to get flakey or break. Sony used to innovate.. now they are copying Apple just like ?ell and Micro$lop. (sigh)..