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Since when is Gizmodo a person?
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Stop calling it the 4G. I doesn't have 4G network capabilities.
Neither did the 4G iPod, but we still called it that. Also the 5G iPod. I had a 1G iPhone, my wife now has a 3G iPhone (3GS); we skipped the 2G (3G).
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Since when is Gizmodo a person?
Since they incorporated.
     
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Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
Neither did the 4G iPod, but we still called it that. Also the 5G iPod. I had a 1G iPhone, my wife now has a 3G iPhone (3GS); we skipped the 2G (3G).
Yeah, but for the iPod G stood for hardware revision generation. With cell phone technology also going by the same generation naming scheme, it's too confusing to refer to both in the same way. Apple won't market an iPhone 4G unless and until it's based on 4G cell technology.

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Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
Neither did the 4G iPod, but we still called it that. Also the 5G iPod. I had a 1G iPhone, my wife now has a 3G iPhone (3GS); we skipped the 2G (3G).
The 4G iPod didn't have ANY networking capabilities. The 3G iPhone was called such because it incorporated 3G networking technology, not because it was the third generation iPhone, which it wasn't.
     
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Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
Since they incorporated.
I've never seen an incorporation referred to as "he."
     
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I think that in some other language(s) corporations may take on singular gender pronouns. I've seen people do it more than once online. It's not proper English, but. . .

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Interesting.
     
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Apr 19, 2010, 06:35 PM
 
I bet Oisin can tell us for sure.

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Apr 19, 2010, 07:03 PM
 
For people who want to know the backstory to Gizmodo’s iPhone exclusive, it’s coming. And it’s a corker.
Corker, eh?

Where is Apple's cease and desist?

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Apr 19, 2010, 07:04 PM
 
Gizmodo may have paid 10k for the phone.

Who wants to bet that this phone was stolen and not "found in a bar".

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...prototype.html

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Apr 19, 2010, 07:37 PM
 
My best guess is that 'Apple 4G' means iPhone 4th-generation. Moved to the iPhone forum in the interests of organization. Its mods can decide if it's a dupe or not.
     
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Still though, 4G is kind of a risky term to go with, since phones like the EVO 4G actually include 4G.
     
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Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
Gizmodo may have paid 10k for the phone.

Who wants to bet that this phone was stolen and not "found in a bar".

AppleInsider | Gizmodo may have paid $10K for exclusive iPhone 4G prototype
Seems like it doesn't it?
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Still though, 4G is kind of a risky term to go with, since phones like the EVO 4G actually include 4G.
I know. It was commentary on the OP's choice of title (Apple 4G) instead of iPhone 4G. But I agree that 4G would be a logical choice for their 4G (LTE) device not a 4th-gen phone.
     
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Apr 19, 2010, 08:21 PM
 
Like I said in the other thread, HD gets my vote.
     
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Yes, I agree that HD at least sounds the best. Sounds like this device has a much higher pixel density than before as well, so it's possible.
     
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I think the main marketing pitch for it will be the front camera for chatting (iChat perhaps) and the 720P camera on the back. Mixed with the display it has HD written all over it.

I never use video much but I'm looking forward to that back camera with flash!
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Well it looks like someone passed the thing on to Gizmodo (for a payday, I imagine) rather than trying to find the rightful owner, so in that sense...
According to Gizmodo, the guy who found it tried to contact Apple first, but nobody would take his calls. And, given that he found it March 22, I'd say he waited quite awhile for Apple to get back to him before taking it to Gizmodo.
How Apple Lost the Next iPhone - Leak - Gizmodo

Same article mentions that Gizmodo is returning the prototype to Apple.
     
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Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post
Corker, eh?

Where is Apple's cease and desist?
you mean, Apple's official confirmation that they lost the new iPhone?
Ain't gonna happen.

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Full story about the poor Apple employee who lost the phone.

Man, must suck to be him.

How Apple Lost the Next iPhone - Leak - Gizmodo

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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
Same article mentions that Gizmodo is returning the prototype to Apple.
Sounds like the lawsuit-proof answer.

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Full story about the poor Apple employee who lost the phone.

Man, must suck to be him.

How Apple Lost the Next iPhone - Leak - Gizmodo

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And naturally, Giz posts his full name, ****ing him up for life.

Even if that's not illegal in the US, it would seem like normal courtesy not to publish his name. He just supplied them with the scoop of a lifetime.
     
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It's highly, deliciously ironic that for once a beer hall revelation about a secret Apple product actually turns out to be true!

As for ruining the guy's life, if you're carrying around prototype equipment and your employer is one of the most secretive corporations on the face of the earth, you deserve to be exposed as an idiot if you manage to leave said unit on a bar stool. Someone that careless doesn't deserve to be working at Apple, IMO.

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
you mean, Apple's official confirmation that they lost the new iPhone?
Ain't gonna happen.

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A Letter: Apple Wants Its Secret iPhone Back - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo
     
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see above
     
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Originally Posted by osiris View Post
When is Steve going to release the hounds?
Never. Right now he's patting the engineer on the back for his help with the "leak".
     
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Plus, Apple has never done such a thing.
Apple is actually well-known for planting (mis-)information including floating design ideas and case prototypes to gauge public (read geek) opinion. Actually "losing" a device is a bit of a stretch, but considering what we learned from this "leak" it's entirely in line with previous events. None of the specs were leaked, just the case design. If you recall what precautions Apple usually takes with their prototypes (like bolting things to tables sitting in vaults) this is astounding to say the least. And then Apple's confirmation of the "leak" by requesting the device be returned (even though it had been remotely killed hours ago) is just too much of a blunder if they were actually trying to limit the leak and prevent damage from happening. Bottom line: unless that engineer has been fired hours ago you can be certain this was orchestrated.
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
you mean, Apple's official confirmation that they lost the new iPhone?
Ain't gonna happen.
Prediction fail. Epic quality.



Apple Demands Prototype iPhone Back - Mac Rumors
     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
And naturally, Giz posts his full name, ****ing him up for life.
Not really. Had this leak been an actual leak Apple would have found out who lost it anyway. Do you seriously believe they have thousands of these prototypes they hand out to employees without knowing exactly which one went to which employee.

Of course since this was all part of a nice little charade the engineer was actually just carrying out Steve's orders. Probably earned himself a sweet bonus right there.
     
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So Apple letterheads still use the purple 'Grape' iMac G3 Apple logo, and Garamond font for the address? Or are they still getting rid of that stationery order from 10 years ago?

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The whole story is fishy.

Originally Posted by gizmodo
When he woke up after the hazy night, the phone was dead. Bricked remotely, through MobileMe, the service Apple provides to track and wipe out lost iPhones
.

Did this guy honestly not know how to use the Locate feature? And the Display Message feature? put yourself in that situation, and you have two choices: 1) wipe your phone's memory, lose any chance of finding it, tell your boss that you lost it, and get fired; or 2) use the Locate feature and find out where it is within 10 feet, and beg for it back. I think the choice is pretty obvious.

If I were in this situation (drunk, of course), the choice would still have been obvious.

This, and the fact that this guy is still employed weeks after the fact and is having phone conversations with Gizmodo to try and rectify the situation, just does not make sense.
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Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Prediction fail. Epic quality.



Apple Demands Prototype iPhone Back - Mac Rumors
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Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Prediction fail. Epic quality.
LOL, comes from the person that screamed fake for the longest time.

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Way to take it like a man.

I never said they were fake (let alone scream). I doubted they were legit (the FCC logos still need to be explained). And the whole story seamed bogus to me (lost a prototype in a bar? riiight) until I realized this was all just a little show Apple was putting on.

Anyway, it's all in good fun. I just had to laugh when only minutes after I had read your firm statement I saw Apple go public and do exactly what you said they'd never do. No biggie.
     
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Yeah, whatever.

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There ya go.
     
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Originally Posted by ajprice View Post
So Apple letterheads still use the purple 'Grape' iMac G3 Apple logo, and Garamond font for the address? Or are they still getting rid of that stationery order from 10 years ago?
That's the first thing I noticed when I saw the letter. It has to be fake.

Even Apple retail stores get current* Apple letterhead and the correct proprietary fonts (not freaking Arial). Everyone in the company is required to conduct correspondence using those templates. (Just like at any large company.)

There's just no way they'd do it on 10 year old letterhead with a PC font.

*Old materials are required to be immediately destroyed whenever new material is released.
     
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There ya go.
You better pray that the letter is not fake

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Now that would be absolutely hilarious!
     
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I don't really think this is fake, and I guess we'll know for sure as this plays out. While they may or may not have charges pressed against them, their attendance or lack thereof at the next apple event will be pretty telling.
     
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Originally Posted by tooki View Post
That's the first thing I noticed when I saw the letter. It has to be fake.

Even Apple retail stores get current* Apple letterhead and the correct proprietary fonts (not freaking Arial). Everyone in the company is required to conduct correspondence using those templates. (Just like at any large company.)

There's just no way they'd do it on 10 year old letterhead with a PC font.

*Old materials are required to be immediately destroyed whenever new material is released.
Agree. The letter is fake, at least.
     
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So Apple finally and officially asked for their nifty little piece of equipment be returned.

A Letter: Apple Wants Its Secret iPhone Back - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo
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The two iPhone leak threads really should have been merged. Its redundancy central.
     
 
 
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