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Immortal K-Mart Employee · Jun 22, 2002, 01:40 AM

Just got back from the movie. Not all that great. I loved A.I. (I know you think I am nuts) but Minority Report was just good. The plot wasn't all that twisted as I thought it would be and the action was next to nothing.

Other then that is was well done. What you guys think?

itistoday · Jun 22, 2002, 01:45 AM

same, i'd say it's was a movie... and that's all. I really have no... "feeling" towards it. It was quite unimmotional.

Sap · Jun 22, 2002, 03:20 AM

I thought all the action, special effects, futuristic city, etc. was really spiffy. The actual plot didn't really agree with me though...

**minor spoiler warning**

I guess I just failed to see why PreCrime was such an evil system. Sure I guess maybe 10 people (a generous estimate) were falsely sentenced to "stasis" and three people had to sit in a pool doped on morphine their whole lives, but the net effect was that thousands of people were saved from violent murders.

[ 06-22-2002, 03:20 AM: Message edited by: Sap ]

Stogieman · Jun 22, 2002, 04:03 AM

I liked this picture. The visual effects were done well and some parts of the movie were quite funny. Like the scene when Tom tries to get some food out of the fridge blind folded or when he walked into the Gap store with his new identity. The movie did seem to drag on a bit but not nearly as long as A.I.

BrunoBruin · Jun 22, 2002, 10:29 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> I loved A.I. (I know you think I am nuts)<hr /></blockquote>I wouldn't say you're nuts for loving A.I. I thought it was flawed, but I'd rather see an ambitious movie that doesn't always hit the target than 99 percent of the multiplex-friendly crap out there that's scripted by committee and edited by focus group.

anarkisst · Jun 22, 2002, 02:12 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Stogieman:
I liked this picture. The visual effects were done well and some parts of the movie were quite funny. Like the scene when Tom tries to get some food out of the fridge blind folded or when he walked into the Gap store with his new identity. The movie did seem to drag on a bit but not nearly as long as A.I.<hr /></blockquote>Oh my God...there will be Gap stores in the future? The horror...the horror...

fobside · Jun 22, 2002, 02:20 PM

i watched it thursday night at the screening in westwood. its one of the perks of living in west la. i thought the movie was okay. it did have flaws like a movie of this kind of nature would have. i liked it though. it made me think about choices we have in life, even in stuff we do on whim, the crimes of passion.

valeriam01 · Jun 22, 2002, 05:49 PM

given that i had NOOOOO expectations for this movie, i thought it wasn't half bad, but then again...i didn't expect much of anything...

MikeM32 · Jun 22, 2002, 06:23 PM

I'm most likely going to see it tomorrow with my brother and a few of his friends so I'll have to report back on it. It *looks* cool though. I also loved the movie A.I. and this sort of has the same "look" anyway. I spent a little while at the minority report website checking out the artwork, and some of the stuff looks wild. I also saw a "behind the scenes" special on HBO a while back. It just looks like one of those kinds of movies I won't mind spending 9 bucks to see in theaters rather than wait for VHS/DVD or HBO.

Is it just me or do the precrime hovercraft look alot like Jango and Boba Fetts Slave 1 from the Star Wars films?

Mike

[ 06-22-2002, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: MikeM32 ]

Hawkeye_a · Jun 22, 2002, 11:19 PM

i wasnt impressed at all.

Hawkeye_a · Jun 22, 2002, 11:20 PM

i wasnt impressed at all.

Timo · Jun 22, 2002, 11:43 PM

Not simply being the opposite of IKE;

I thought Minority Report totally redeemed Spielberg after his junky A.I. A.I. was simply all around awful, while Minority Report was OK to sometimes good.

Minority Report is at its best when it depicts, matter of factly, everyday elements about the future. I thought the computer interface scenes or some of the other futuristic gagetry (like those spiders) was pretty good. The movie is not so good when it tries to gross you out, as with the extended "ooh look, eyes in a bag" scenes. The plot? Well, let's just say that Speilberg isn't so good with melodramatic metaphysics, but on the whole, he directed a movie that distracted you from uneven plot developments or sketchy ideas.

While I don't really like Tom Cruise, I think he acquits himself well in this movie. All in all it was much better than I thought it would be.

MikeM32 · Jun 23, 2002, 12:11 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted bt Timo:
I thought Minority Report totally redeemed Spielberg after his junky A.I. A.I. was simply all around awful, while Minority Report was OK to sometimes good.
<hr /></blockquote>I really don't feel A.I. was "awful" in any way. I still wonder how Kubrick himself would have directed the movie though <img border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" title="" src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" /> I read the short story the movie was based on and I must say there's ALOT of improvisation in A.I.. You'd have to add alot to such a story. The story "Supertoys last all summer long" by Brian Aldiss only get's inyo a bit of the whole A.I. story. There was alot that Kubrick made-up before he passed

Mike

SOLIDAge · Jun 23, 2002, 01:43 AM

A.I was a great movie period.

back on topic...
Minority Report was an excellent movie, in my opinion. It was a great action movie, and i thought the plot was just as great. I didn't really know much about this movie before i went to see it.

Why the hell is it that Tom Cruise has been in like 3 of some of the best movies ive seen in along time?!?!i used to despise the man!

Magnolia
Vanilla Sky
and now This?

Oh Tommy...sheesh...make some crap please

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Jun 23, 2002, 02:03 AM

Something I didn't get about the movie...

SPOILERS*****

How exacly did that old guy set up Tom? I mean he didn't implant that murder in the Precogs head and Tom would never have looked or found that fake kidnapper if the setup wouldn't have been setup in the firstplace. So how was he expecting Tom to find and kill that guy?

roger_ramjet · Jun 23, 2002, 08:19 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by solidage:

A.I was a great movie period.
<hr /></blockquote>No it wasn't. Period.

Hawkeye_a · Jun 23, 2002, 08:56 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by solidage:
A.I was a great movie period.

back on topic...
Minority Report was an excellent movie, in my opinion. It was a great action movie, and i thought the plot was just as great. I didn't really know much about this movie before i went to see it.

Why the hell is it that Tom Cruise has been in like 3 of some of the best movies ive seen in along time?!?!i used to despise the man!

Magnolia
Vanilla Sky
and now This?

Oh Tommy...sheesh...make some crap please<hr /></blockquote>Vanilla Sky ?
<img border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" title="" src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" /> what have you been smokin' ?

Jbos · Jun 23, 2002, 10:30 AM

I thought it was brilliant, and absolutely worthy of multiple viewings. Speilberg did redeem himself with this film after A.I., which I don't think was awful; it was just bad.

I'm going to see it again tonight. I thought it was the best film I've seen in a very long time.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Stogieman:
the scene when Tom tries to get some food out of the fridge blind folded.<hr /></blockquote>That was just gross. Everyone who saw the movie knows what I'm talking about.

[ 06-23-2002, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: Jbos ]

Timo · Jun 23, 2002, 11:49 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by solidage:
A.I was a great movie period.

back on topic...
Minority Report was an excellent movie, in my opinion. It was a great action movie, and i thought the plot was just as great. I didn't really know much about this movie before i went to see it.

Why the hell is it that Tom Cruise has been in like 3 of some of the best movies ive seen in along time?!?!i used to despise the man!

Magnolia
Vanilla Sky
and now This?

Oh Tommy...sheesh...make some crap please<hr /></blockquote>People LAUGHED out loud at A.I. in my theater; that is, until they left. An awful movie.

Magnolia has to be the most pretentious drivel I've seen in years (though Cruise was excellent). Vanilla Sky...oh well, what can you say...
I think we've got diametrically-opposed viewing tastes, so its funny we found something to like in Minority Report. But I didn't like the action scenes (please not another fight in a robot laser factory...didn't we just see that in Clones?) and the plot's got problems.

[ 06-23-2002, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Timo ]

sterfry · Jun 23, 2002, 12:33 PM

I personally thought that Minority Report was great. I liked A.I. up until the ending, in which the highly advanced robots had modular spacecraft that defied gravity, but Minority Report was great even after the ending. And living in Washington, DC, it was really weird to see familiar places and to hear familiar names in such a futuristic environment! Jeez!
But, all in all, I loved the plot, the characters, the double-crossing- in the end, I realized that in such a new and advanced world, Cruise's problem was solved by good old fashioned Detective work. Have reccomended this movie to many people, I think it is a good, exciting movie.
Just my two cents.

MikeM32 · Jun 24, 2002, 01:07 AM

*****MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS*****

I just got back from seeing it. I've seen better and worse movies. I'd still say A.I. was better on an emotional level (if we must compare the two, although to me both movies are totally different in nature). I also didn't understand how the system was flawed at all. To me it seems like every precrime was predicted perfectly. The only real flaws being in the interpretation process and the ability to create echos in order to mask a real murder. The precogs were 100% correct about the murders though.

There really didn't seem to be much significance in the part where Tom Cruises character meets with the woman who started the whole thing either. He learns about the "minority report" which was supposed to contain errors that the precogs could have made. The thing was it didn't seem to me like the precogs made any errors at all, and we never really see this "minority report" thing.

What can I say? For me, it wasn't the best film ever, but it didn't suck.

Mike

SOLIDAge · Jun 24, 2002, 02:07 AM

You people bash and bash A.I...take it for what its worth, a fairy tale
oh and you'll appreciate the movie alot more if you end it when the Kubrik flick ends, and Stevies mushhy crap begings...but then again...

A.I SPOILER--->

Although there is alot of talk, that Steve's ending is much darker, becuase his mother isn't real, and he is with her for one day, then thrown back into the world. So it all depends how you look at it, if his mother was real at the end or if she wasn't. But the real movie ends when he gets stuck under the ferris wheel

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> People LAUGHED out loud at A.I. in my theater; that is, until they left. An awful movie.

Magnolia has to be the most pretentious drivel I've seen in years (though Cruise was excellent). Vanilla Sky...oh well, what can you say...
I think we've got diametrically-opposed viewing tastes, so its funny we found something to like in Minority Report. But I didn't like the action scenes (please not another fight in a robot laser factory...didn't we just see that in Clones?) and the plot's got problems.
<hr /></blockquote>The Car scene was really stupid (gun was cool) and the hand thing was to deja vu for me.
Vanilla Sky, was just as good as M.R. IMHO. The story was faster, and it made me think alot (just like the ASTOUNDING Magnolia [and i don't think Tom's that great in that] ) I also figured out Vanilla Sky, and i was happy with myself for being so smart, so maybe thats why i like it :-)

[ 06-24-2002, 02:27 AM: Message edited by: solidage ]

Yoda's Erotic Piggyback · Jun 24, 2002, 02:10 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by solidage:
You people bash and bash A.I...take it for what its worth, a fairy tale
oh and you'll appreciate the movie alot more if you end it when the Kubrik flick ends, and Stevies mushhy crap begings...but then again...

A.I SPOILER--->

Although there is alot of talk, that Steve's ending is much darker, becuase his mother isn't real, and he is with her for one day, then thrown back into the world. So it all depends how you look at it, if his mother was real at the end or if she wasn't. But the real movie ends when he gets stuck under the ferris wheel<hr /></blockquote>Right, that is what I thought. The whole movie is a fairy tale and the ending is actually very dark and depressing.

itai195 · Jun 24, 2002, 02:13 AM

Well I don't want to give anything away about the movie so I'll keep it short and simple. The reasons people above didn't like it are mostly not reasons I'd agree with. My only issue with the movie is the ending, other than that it's a great film.

RGB · Jun 24, 2002, 02:21 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MikeM32:
*****MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS*****

I just got back from seeing it. I've seen better and worse movies. I'd still say A.I. was better on an emotional level (if we must compare the two, although to me both movies are totally different in nature). I also didn't understand how the system was flawed at all. To me it seems like every precrime was predicted perfectly. The only real flaws being in the interpretation process and the ability to create echos in order to mask a real murder. The precogs were 100% correct about the murders though.

There really didn't seem to be much significance in the part where Tom Cruises character meets with the woman who started the whole thing either. He learns about the "minority report" which was supposed to contain errors that the precogs could have made. The thing was it didn't seem to me like the precogs made any errors at all, and we never really see this "minority report" thing.

What can I say? For me, it wasn't the best film ever, but it didn't suck.

Mike<hr /></blockquote>Well some flaws are as follow:

1. If the system hadn't identified Tom as a future murderer, would he have been in the position to commit the murder?

2. If the future criminals are made aware of what they are predicted to do, they can make the conscious decision not to.

3. If a person is apprehended prior to committing a murder out of rage / passion, why not just detain the person until after the murder was to be
committed, then give him / her a second chance in society?

Personally, I thought the movie to be excellent. The story never got boring for me, nothing seemed gratuitous, the special effects were seamless, and the movie made me think about a lot of things.

Jbos · Jun 24, 2002, 12:35 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MikeM32:
*****MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS*****
There really didn't seem to be much significance in the part where Tom Cruises character meets with the woman who started the whole thing either. He learns about the "minority report" which was supposed to contain errors that the precogs could have made. The thing was it didn't seem to me like the precogs made any errors at all, and we never really see this "minority report" thing.
<hr /></blockquote>Well, that was mostly foreshadowing for the end of the movie. Like when she's holding the plant and says that even under the utmost pressure, things only care about one thing; their own survival (or something like that), and then the plant cuts her hand. It was a hint-hint nudge-nudge wink-wink for the end of the film.

Kitschy · Jun 24, 2002, 12:42 PM

Minority Report is a great movie. One of the better movies I've seen in a while actually. It's getting surprisingly good "civilian" reviews at Yahoo! as well as critic's reviews. I've found that the "civilian" reviews at Yahoo! are a good litmus test of movie quality.

<a href="http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1807592183" target="_blank">http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1807592183</a>

As for A.I., it was absolutely awful. Its on my top 10 worst list.

sek929 · Jun 24, 2002, 05:43 PM

I'd give it a 6, not too bad, not too great.

I def recommend seeing at least once. The whole concept was really neat, and it raised a lot of moral issues and such. It kept going a bit to long to keep me captivated the whole time, but I must say Agatha scared the crap out me a few times <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

And for once the computer interfaces of the future didn't annoy the hell out of me, it actually seemed feasable.

ckohler · Jun 24, 2002, 06:22 PM

I really enjoyed Minority Report. In fact, I'd say for me it's been the second best movie this year (after Spider-Man). Maybe I'm just gullible.. or I let myself get drawn in easily but there were at least two times I thought the movie was about to end and the plot twisted on me. I enjoyed it when that happened. I also really dug the future they protrayed in the movie. It's clear they gave it a lot of thought.

[ Minor Spoiler Begin ]

My only real problem with the movie was the most rediculous plot hole... the use of Anderton's eyes. Am I supposed to believe that after he's been convicted that both he and his wife can continue to use his disembodied eyes at least three times to enter locked, high-security areas of the Precrime building without a single alarm going off?! Why doesn't Precrime revoke Anderton's account in the system the moment he's convicted?!

[ Minor Spoiler End ]

Overall, I'd give it a 4 our of 5 stars.