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SpaceMonkey · Aug 5, 2011, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

Maybe MacNN needs to publicize more. Flashy colors, hot babes, cheap merchandise.... whatever it takes.

We need MacNN mugs! And smoking jackets.

Maybe a few product placements on "Big Bang Theory."

osiris · 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Maybe a few product placements on "Big Bang Theory."

There ya go. We should also use old fashioned methods - like a big billboard on Sunset blvd, or maybe we can get bunch of people to wear those giant signs then have them walk around Times Square whilst handing out MacNN condoms.

besson3c · Aug 5, 2011, 09:18 PM

If you guys want I can pose as a celebrity and answer your questions.

Don't be surprised if Michael Winslow pays MacNN a surprise visit...

Stogieman · Aug 5, 2011, 09:48 PM

Will Steve Guttenberg be joining him?

besson3c · Aug 5, 2011, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

Will Steve Guttenberg be joining him?

If you guys are good, maybe. Maybe Ron Jeremy and Tony Danza too.

LegendaryPinkOx · Aug 6, 2011, 04:58 AM

Whatever happened to cheerios?

ajprice · Aug 6, 2011, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by LegendaryPinkOx

Whatever happened to cheerios?

Just had a look, regular posts until 2005, then just a few posts in 2006-7, then nothing. Last seen March 2007. I remember cheerios (and juanvaldes - similarly absent since 2006-7), weird that it's that long since they've even been here.

Thorzdad · Aug 6, 2011, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by osiris

Maybe MacNN needs to publicize more.

Personally, I think this is something that needs serious consideration. I can't recall ever seeing an ad for MacNN anywhere. There's just not much name recognition for MacNN out there. I could see doing an occasional sponsorship for any of the Mac-centric 5 by 5 podcasts like Hypercritical or The Talkshow. Or sponsoring Gruber's RSS feed of Daring Fireball for a week.

voodoo · Aug 7, 2011, 10:58 AM

Oh please, don't support Gruber.

facethefacts68 · Aug 8, 2011, 04:35 AM

Ha.

I find you guys pretty sad. You basically complain/bitch about anybody who has any sort of memorable personality enough to the point where it is somehow acceptable to harass those people, bait them, and then act surprised and innocent when they then respond. You say they are out of control. You say they need to stop reacting, and settle down. But secretly, you love goading them on and starting fights, but you cannot admit it. Instead, you complain and complain about how they are ruining the place, and report any posts of theirs until the mods/admins ban them.

The lounge was over-moderated to the point where nothing offends anybody anymore. It's now basically a family friendly, G-rated vanilla-flavored destination you can drive your beige automatic camry to, while listening to Kenny G or whatever new band is playing over the speakers at walgreens or target.

This place is dying. And it is a shame, because there was some fantastic discussion here... fantastic. Nothing else I've ever seen on the internet contained so much "thought" and "controversy compared to the lounge in it's heyday. The blame can only be put on the pieces of shit that complain about other people. Have fun watching MacNN die. You people did this by eliminating the personalities here.

Spheric Harlot · Aug 8, 2011, 05:02 AM

I guess "that's your story and you're sticking to it", as you have every. Single. Time. You. Return. Over. The. Past. Half. Decade.

Even in the Olden Days, Things were better in the Olden Days.

facethefacts68 · Aug 8, 2011, 05:05 AM

Oh I'm not returning, I'll be banned in a few hours. I am just up late due tonight, trying to fall asleep, and checked in this place to find this thread.

And yeah, it is my story, and I am sticking to it. I said for years that this place bans personality... and lo and behold... after years of banning anybody who was REMOTELY offensive at all, this place is dying.

Seems like I'm right. You can tell me I'm wrong when this place has a lot of traffic again with the same amount of moderation. Til then... scoreboard!!!!!

ajprice · Aug 8, 2011, 07:29 AM

^^^Insert the 'arguing on the internet' gif here...

Laminar · Aug 8, 2011, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by facethefacts68

Ha.

I find you guys pretty sad. You basically complain/bitch about anybody who has any sort of memorable personality enough to the point where it is somehow acceptable to harass those people, bait them, and then act surprised and innocent when they then respond.

Yes, this is how you continue to rationalize your inability to interact with others..."personality."

This place is dying. And it is a shame, because there was some fantastic discussion here... fantastic. Nothing else I've ever seen on the internet contained so much "thought" and "controversy compared to the lounge in it's heyday. The blame can only be put on the pieces of shit that complain about other people. Have fun watching MacNN die. You people did this by eliminating the personalities here.

You've been bitching about how much this place sucks since 2001.

Hi. Haven't been here in a while.

Going to keep it that way. Why'd I leave? The car topic. It pushed me over the edge. Over half of you are lefties, which is reason enough to not wanna hang around. The others are tree huggers. And lastly, many of you stated your favorite car was a 69 Camaro or a 66 mustang.

You people are horrible. You are unoriginal, media controlled, and most importantly, STUPID AND BORING. You cannot stand to see someone triumph, you don't enjoy being thought of as different, you just ...ack. I can't even begin to explain it. Whenever anything possibly great COULD happen, you people will question it, ridicule it, and generally have a negative attitude and hope that it dies.

besson3c · Aug 8, 2011, 10:45 AM

Rob: I kind of doubt that the huge difference between activity back then and now consisted of people who came here because they were looking for the latest epic internet battle. Not everybody has a thirst for conflict, peck!

freudling · Aug 8, 2011, 12:03 PM

This is what's wrong with this place. I posted a thread called "Why Does Software Suck"

After 2 pages it's turned into a pissing match. Here's the last post:

Originally Posted by subego

And as evidence, you pointed out how someone wasn't posting from their iPad.

I don't disagree with your premise, I'm only saying this particular piece of supporting evidence is (for our purposes) false.

All this dogmatic, pontificating. It's absurd. Discussions quickly turn to piss mush. But none of you are going to stop are you?

besson3c · Aug 8, 2011, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by freudling

This is what's wrong with this place. I posted a thread called "Why Does Software Suck"

After 2 pages it's turned into a pissing match. Here's the last post:

All this dogmatic, pontificating. It's absurd. Discussions quickly turn to piss mush. But none of you are going to stop are you?

Bickering is indeed a common problem here on MacNN, I would say more than the individual personalities, but on the other hand all we have to go on here is words, so the poster does have some responsibility to say what they mean with some accuracy.

Laminar · Aug 8, 2011, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by freudling

All this dogmatic, pontificating. It's absurd. Discussions quickly turn to piss mush. But none of you are going to stop are you?

My favorite part is where you frame this as being a problem that everyone else has.

freudling · Aug 8, 2011, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

My favorite part is where you frame this as being a problem that everyone else has.

No I do not. Do you like my italics? And here we go...

Laminar · Aug 8, 2011, 02:29 PM

And here we go where?

Spheric Harlot · Aug 8, 2011, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by freudling

No I do not. Do you like my italics? And here we go...

If you're gonna start pissing, be prepared to have people call it urine.

voodoo · Aug 8, 2011, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

If you're gonna start pissing, be prepared to have people call it urine.

Why wouldn't they call it piss?

Does this event occur at a biochemistry party in Germany?

SSharon · Aug 8, 2011, 03:16 PM

Am I the only one that doesn't overanalyze the health of the message board I frequent? If I find an interesting thread I read it, if I have something to contribute I post, but for the most part I don't really get in any fights and I still enjoy coming here and learn a lot from everyone else.

Who cares if page visits are down eleventy billion % compared to the good old days?

SpaceMonkey · Aug 8, 2011, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by SSharon

Am I the only one that doesn't overanalyze the health of the message board I frequent? If I find an interesting thread I read it, if I have something to contribute I post, but for the most part I don't really get in any fights and I still enjoy coming here and learn a lot from everyone else.

Who cares if page visits are down eleventy billion % compared to the good old days?

Damn it, being "addicted to MacNN" used to mean something.

cheerios · Aug 8, 2011, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by LegendaryPinkOx

Whatever happened to cheerios?

She got a job, got married, moved states, and moved on in the internet community world.

I got hired @ The Omni Group in 2005, and for the most part dropped off so that I didn't have to think too hard about whether I was messing up some NDA or anything, plus the move to a new state, new job, whatnot.

Juan & I got married in 2007 (oh god I hope I got this right!), we're kidless and living happily in Seattle. Just bought a house & everything!

Spheric Harlot · Aug 8, 2011, 04:55 PM

Holy shit.

ajprice · Aug 8, 2011, 05:56 PM

Welcome back and congratulations.

Face Ache · Aug 8, 2011, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by cheerios

Juan & I got married in 2007 (oh god I hope I got this right!), we're kidless and living happily in Seattle. Just bought a house & everything!

I didn't get an invite, so the marriage isn't legitimate.

Just so you know.

cheerios · Aug 8, 2011, 06:59 PM

LOL, there was TOTALLY a list of people we should've invited, and it read:

1. Face Ache
2. Anyone other than our 2 witnesses

gethigh · Aug 9, 2011, 11:27 AM

LegendaryPinkOx · Aug 9, 2011, 01:03 PM

I enjoy lurking mysteriously and all, but I'm not sure what to make of someone being registered for almost 9 years and suddenly coming out of the woodwork with an online dick hierarchy flow chart.

I do enjoy a good sandwich though...

SpaceMonkey · Aug 9, 2011, 01:11 PM

I'm still getting around the fact that I've been a member of this forum for almost 9 years. When I first joined, you could get a candy bar for a nickel.

A nickel!

voodoo · Aug 9, 2011, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by LegendaryPinkOx

I enjoy lurking mysteriously and all, but I'm not sure what to make of someone being registered for almost 9 years and suddenly coming out of the woodwork with an online dick hierarchy flow chart.

I do enjoy a good sandwich though...

Sandwiches are great! Though it seems SH has found his alt. (looks at gethigh's post)

hart · Aug 9, 2011, 05:08 PM

What this place lacks is ponies

But seriously folks, maybe we ARE lacking young people. Too many curmudgeons being curmudgeonly. Sure a bunch of obnoxious know-it-all kids could be a pain but some of them would surely have something to contribute.

I just directed some nice young person over here for help this morning. A girl even. Perhaps "threw her to the wolves" would be a better description. Please be nice to the noobs.

SpaceMonkey · Aug 9, 2011, 05:12 PM

That's where you are wrong, friend.

Thorzdad · Aug 9, 2011, 05:24 PM

Young people? You mean those whipper-snappers on the Facebook? Bah.

SpaceMonkey · Aug 9, 2011, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by hart

I just directed some nice young person over here for help this morning. A girl even. Perhaps "threw her to the wolves" would be a better description. Please be nice to the noobs.

As long as she's not MacGeek or a Twilight fan, she should be fine.

hart · Aug 9, 2011, 07:55 PM

Kids these days with their facebook and their loud music >|

osiris · Aug 10, 2011, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

I'm still getting around the fact that I've been a member of this forum for almost 9 years. When I first joined, you could get a candy bar for a nickel.

A nickel!

I remember those days! With a dollar in my pocket I'd take the trolley down to the five & dime to buy typewriter ribbons and white-out, sometimes I'd buy myself a cherry soda, a Clark bar, and a pack of Pall Malls. Then I'd go home - with change in my pocket.

voodoo · Aug 10, 2011, 08:10 AM

When I joined, I could smoke in the bank, while talking to the teller - who would just hand me an ashtray.

Then the fascists came.

dav · Aug 10, 2011, 09:20 AM

welcome to the macnn retirement home

Brien · Aug 14, 2011, 12:32 AM

I can't believe it's been nearly 10 years I've been here either, but I think the biggest proof this place is "dying" is lack of fresh meat (er, new members). Just look at the join dates in most threads, >70% of them are from 2004 or earlier.

freudling · Aug 14, 2011, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Brien

I can't believe it's been nearly 10 years I've been here either, but I think the biggest proof this place is "dying" is lack of fresh meat (er, new members). Just look at the join dates in most threads, >70% of them are from 2004 or earlier.

Yup. And when you read the threads you can really see... it's like a bunch of aging tech nerds fading away...

Sorry, it's sad and true. The discussions that spur up on most threads become absurd. Who would want to jump into that? Nobody.

But here I am... I get the odd bit of good advice here.

Andy8 · Aug 14, 2011, 02:28 AM

So why isn't MacNN doing what Macrumors does by putting front page articles directly into the forum for comments?

Big Mac · Aug 14, 2011, 02:31 AM

Because the MacNN main site went hella-lame.

freudling · Aug 14, 2011, 03:14 AM

I wonder what MacNN's revenues are annually?

bstone · Aug 14, 2011, 03:49 AM

Tighter integration of the news stories into these forums would provide a huge boost. Reverting the main page back to legacy main page would be huge as the current main page is extremely confusing and very poorly designed.

besson3c · Aug 14, 2011, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by bstone

Tighter integration of the news stories into these forums would provide a huge boost. Reverting the main page back to legacy main page would be huge as the current main page is extremely confusing and very poorly designed.

What is confusing about it, and what makes it poorly designed to you?

bstone · Aug 14, 2011, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

What is confusing about it, and what makes it poorly designed to you?

It's information overload. There's tons of stuff going on in multiple columns, while the news section is almost secondary to the page. Compare to the legacy page (which I exclusively use) that is a lot cleaner and makes the news obvious and prominent.

besson3c · Aug 14, 2011, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by bstone

It's information overload. There's tons of stuff going on in multiple columns, while the news section is almost secondary to the page. Compare to the legacy page (which I exclusively use) that is a lot cleaner and makes the news obvious and prominent.

I can agree with that. I was also thinking you were going to say something about the Electronista integration.