[ambush]

someone put a ... in his mouth.

[abe]

Originally Posted by scaught

its a friggin pandemic!!!!!11

Uh, wouldn't it be called a pansy-demic?

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

It's great to see how maturely you are handling all this

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

It's great to see how maturely you are handling all this

We will remember this quote the next Religious bashing spree you go on.

Which should start in 10...9....8....

[abe]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

It's great to see how maturely you are handling all this

Ha! I remember when the word, "Queer" was offensive when referring to homosexual males.

Now it's on EVERYONE'S lips!

Pansy? Pffft.

Appreciate the reply, though.

[FeLiZeCaT]

Much ado about nothing.

[abe]

Originally Posted by FeLiZeCaT

Much ado about nothing.

I'm starting to appreciate your sensibility.

[Salty]

Yawn... at least this post isn't locked.

So anyway, yah I gotta find a new church to attend since apparently I'm a divisive liar. Apparently the pastor did not say that I would molest children, apparently I could not be alone with any of them because I might set them on fire.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by deomacius

Salty®
Giving Christians a bad name since July, 2005.

I always thought he was the least worse out of the bunch.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by ambush

someone put a ... in his mouth.

...Idiotic French Canadian?

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

I always thought he was the least worse out of the bunch.

You're not making any sense lately. First you're saying that I'm some sort of massive homohater (which obviously isn't true, and frankly though I've had unpopular views I've never in my life as far as I know hated a gay person, at least nobody I knew was gay.) And now you're saying that I'm the least worse?
I mean I've always thought I was a pretty nifty Christian too but...

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

...Idiotic French Canadian?

I don't like french men, I don't think they bathe...

Actually that's not true, there's a guy from France who's actually at school here and he's insanely hot. He actually always comes up and puts his hand on my shoulder or back or something, some days I wonder if he's hitting on me... if he was, huge confidence booster.

[KeriVit]

Just find your own religion. Mine is called Kerism.

[sek929]

Is that the one with Prophet Tom Brady?

[Salty]

OH did I mention people from the church have begun posting on my blog.
"Here's a bible verse that condemns homosexual behaviour! Since I'm pretty sure you're doing that cause I'm a freaking moron!"

The best part is they quoted a passage talking about how you're blessed when people persecute you for your faith. It's like... moron, one person can not persecute a group of 280 people!

[turtle777]

Seriously, Salty, I believe this was a test balloon. And you DO have issues.
From all my experience, Christians that do argue, bicker and talk SO much about gays have serious issues. Get help.

-t

[Kevin]

I have had arguments with a few Christians about the way they single out gays.

As if they were somehow better than they were.

Kinda have to knock em down off their high horse and tell remind them we are all in the same boat.

[Salty]

Ha, I had a discussion with a female youth sponsor today. Apparently being gay is a sin. Like, just being, and being gay. I guess in her mind the only way for me to not sin is to kill myself. Fortunately for her I'm not a moron.

Sigh... haha it's funny watching them go into damage control mode. I'm tempted to ask at school what would happen to someone if they were publically out at school.

[Kevin]

No being gay is not a sin. IMHO. No more then being a heterosexual is a sin.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

It's great to see how maturely you are handling all this

Let's look at where it started: with our latest poster-gay-child and his handling of his sexuality.
He's making a complete ass out of himself by pseudo-funny-backpaddling-April-fools-post.

-t

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Well I can't take credit for this one but remember this from 3 years ago?

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

Geesh, that chick is almost a reason to turn gay. Almost.

-t

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Geesh, that chick is almost a reason to turn gay. Almost.

-t

Um that "chick" is superchickens face that someone grafted on a girl.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

Um that "chick" is superchickens face that someone grafted on a girl.

O'Reely ?

-t

[Corpse of Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by SimeyTheLimey

We all think you are gay and have issues about it. Any gay person knows the symptoms.

Sir,

Do you claim that being gay is a disease, thus has symptoms?

Ugggggg.

[gerbnl]

dear salty...

i just wanted to you...


also, two (somewhat) recent movies are relevant to you interests (well, thats what i think/hope whatever):

This Divided State (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0444698)

C.r.a.z.y. (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0401085)

the latter probably will be more obvious than the former...

[Salty]

Why would I like those movies? (I haven't heard of either of them)

Oh and, that IS an old photo, my new glasses are way sexier, and my face has lost some pounds.

And what the heck, I'm not trying to back peddle, I was joking and giving all the people that thought it was a joke a poke. Sheesh!

Lastly, frick... I've decided everyone from my old church that was in leadership... are far more legalistic and lemming like than I ever realized. That's some tight knit leadership. Even when it's blatant that something was done wrong, they don't admit anything.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Salty

So anyway, yah I gotta find a new church to attend since apparently I'm a divisive liar.

And what exactly are you doing right now? That's right, you're being divisive against the church by badmouthing them instead of shutting your trap.

Originally Posted by Salty

Lastly, frick... I've decided everyone from my old church that was in leadership... are far more legalistic and lemming like than I ever realized. That's some tight knit leadership. Even when it's blatant that something was done wrong, they don't admit anything.

Uh huh... ...no log in your eye. No siree, not at all.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Doofy

And what exactly are you doing right now? That's right, you're being divisive against the church by badmouthing them instead of shutting your trap.

Uh huh... ...no log in your eye. No siree, not at all.

When have I pretended that I'm going about this in the best way possible. That said, I ask you. If you gave 2 years of your life, every friday during the school year to help, and give of yourself, so that you could help influence and make the lives of a bunch of kids better. Don't you think that you'd be a bit pissed off when you're told that none of that matters because of something that you can't change? (Again the porn thing was just the excuse, all the way back in September the Sr. Pastor told his niece that he didn't think I'd be at the church much longer)

[abe]

Originally Posted by Salty

When have I pretended that I'm going about this in the best way possible. That said, I ask you. If you gave 2 years of your life, every friday during the school year to help, and give of yourself, so that you could help influence and make the lives of a bunch of kids better. Don't you think that you'd be a bit pissed off when you're told that none of that matters because of something that you can't change? (Again the porn thing was just the excuse, all the way back in September the Sr. Pastor told his niece that he didn't think I'd be at the church much longer)

The love you take is = to the love you make. C'mon, you got something from it, too. The victim's argument is beneath you.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Salty

When have I pretended that I'm going about this in the best way possible. That said, I ask you. If you gave 2 years of your life, every friday during the school year to help, and give of yourself, so that you could help influence and make the lives of a bunch of kids better. Don't you think that you'd be a bit pissed off when you're told that none of that matters because of something that you can't change?

Dude, even looking at it from here with the gay thing completely left out of the equation, it's been obvious for a while that you haven't been fitting in with the church. It's been like you want to do things your way and won't be told when you're doing them incorrectly: you're right, they're wrong - all the time... ...you've done it again right here by assuming that you're making the lives of a bunch of kids better (by what metric?) by your influence and that those kids will have crappy lives now the church has canned you.
Now, if I'm getting that from the other side of the Atlantic just from reading a few forum posts, how much more obvious would it be to folks you see in real life every week?

Seriously, if an employee gave me the 'tude you've been giving them I'd be looking for any excuse to can their ass. And this, I believe, is what this is really about - you aren't getting canned because you're gay but rather that it's simply a good excuse for them to finally be free of your histrionics.

Don't take this as my knocking you for the sake of it: this is how I see the situation and I'm telling you for your own good.

[gerbnl]

Originally Posted by Salty

Why would I like those movies? (I haven't heard of either of them)

I didn't say you would like them (though you might, but that's for you to decide). I said they are relevant to your interest.

[OreoCookie]

Originally Posted by Salty

Ha, I had a discussion with a female youth sponsor today. Apparently being gay is a sin. Like, just being, and being gay.

I thought gay sex was a sin according to the Bible, but being gay was not …

[Maflynn]

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

I thought gay sex was a sin according to the Bible, but being gay was not …

You are correct, its the act not the fact that you are.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

I thought gay sex was a sin according to the Bible, but being gay was not …

Does it matter? His church seems to be shunning him even though he is not having gay sex.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Does it matter? His church seems to be shunning him even though he is not having gay sex.

They're not shunning him because he's gay. That's just a good excuse.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Doofy

They're not shunning him because he's gay. That's just a good excuse.

So what is there real reason then?

Heck he was even trying to become a pasture and they still don't want him now that he is gay.

[Kr0nos]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Heck he was even trying to become a pasture…

Yeah, and now they're walking all over him…

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

So what is there real reason then?

He whines for Canada, doesn't take advice/direction and is kind of full of himself* here. Any reason to believe he doesn't do those kinds of things at the church? If you've been following, you'll note that the Salty vs church problems started way before he announced he was gay.

(* yes, yes. I whine for Britain, don't need to take advice and am kind of full of myself. But I get paid to be that way.)

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Doofy

He whines for Canada, doesn't take advice/direction and is kind of full of himself* here. Any reason to believe he doesn't do those kinds of things at the church? If you've been following, you'll note that the Salty vs church problems started way before he announced he was gay.

Not that I disagree that Salty has some major issues but I'm pretty damn sure the church would have booted him JUST for being gay. I have seen it before.

[Millennium]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Not that I disagree that Salty has some major issues but I'm pretty damn sure the church would have booted him JUST for being gay. I have seen it before.

Some churches would, and some wouldn't. I agree with you that Salty's church sounds like one of the ones that would kick him out just for being gay. But there are others which would welcome him with open arms, even among those churches that reject the morality of sex between persons of the same gender. Quite a few, in fact, would say that he's handling his discovery in precisely the right way.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Kr0nos

Yeah, and now they're walking all over him…

That has to be the funniest post you have made Kron.

I actually laughed outloud. One ad rep even came in to my office to see what was so funny.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Millennium

Some churches would, and some wouldn't. I agree with you that Salty's church sounds like one of the ones that would kick him out just for being gay. But there are others which would welcome him with open arms, even among those churches that reject the morality of sex between persons of the same gender. Quite a few, in fact, would say that he's handling his discovery in precisely the right way.

I have a feeling that the ones that would accept him would just want him there to "Cure" him.

[Millennium]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I have a feeling that the ones that would accept him would just want him there to "Cure" him.

Again, some probably would. Others, as I mentioned, believe that he's handling his discovery in exactly the right and Godly way. Such churches might offer condolences or encouragement from time to time, since it's a very hard path that he's chosen to follow. But other than that, I doubt they would say very much.

I'm not really trying to contradict you; the stereotype you promote is, sadly, true often enough that it's worth taking into consideration. What I'm trying to do is press the point that although it's common, it's not quite universal. If he wishes to remain a Christian -as it seems he does- then there are churches which would be happy to take him in.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Millennium

Again, some probably would. Others, as I mentioned, believe that he's handling his discovery in exactly the right and Godly way. Such churches might offer condolences or encouragement from time to time, since it's a very hard path that he's chosen to follow. But other than that, I doubt they would say very much.

Well of course it is some. I know lots of non-catholic churches that are openly accepting to gays.

My gay Catholic buddy says he told his church, they are really unhappy about it but haven't thrown him out.

[Kr0nos]

Originally Posted by Millennium

If he wishes to remain a Christian -as it seems he does- then there are churches which would be happy to take him in…

This is all very strange to me. If he really is gay (which I'm not sure at all if I believe), why would he subscribe to a faith that most likely will conflict with his natural instinct?

It's like a fascist skinhead finding out that he's a Jew, accepting it, and then still wanting to hang out with his NAZI buddies. It most likely ain't gonna work.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Kr0nos

This is all very strange to me. If he really is gay (which I'm not sure at all if I believe), why would he subscribe to a faith that most likely will conflict with his natural instinct?

That was exactly my argument with my Ex. He said it is because he is "spiritual and believes in God". I said fine, then can't you choose some other religion that doesn't support taking away your human rights?

Drove me nuts.

[hart]

not all sections of the Christian church are hostile to homosexuality. Also, there are many Christian scholars who disagree with the anti-homosexuality interpretation of the standard bible phrases traditionally picked out to condemn homosexuality. Christianity and homosexuality are in no way mutually exclusive, it's just some subsections of the Christian faith that are.

[Chuckit]

As I've said before, whether the Bible actually says homosexuality is a sin is not clear cut. It seems likely that Paul didn't approve of it (he barely approved of sex at all), but the only supposed references to homosexuality in the New Testament either don't say it's a sin or don't explicitly say "homosexuality."

[ambush]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

...Idiotic French Canadian?

No, a dick.