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The time-bomb of unlocked iphones..
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iampivot
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Oct 29, 2007, 08:34 AM
 
How many people remember to change the root password on their iphone after unlocking it and installing sshd in the process? 50%? 10%?

Imagine how many use their phone on public open wireless networks, without any firewall between their phone and the internet. It must only be a question about time before the first iphone viruses appear..
     
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Oct 29, 2007, 11:35 AM
 
how would they know the iPhone IP address?
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iampivot  (op)
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Oct 29, 2007, 11:42 AM
 
They don't. They just scan ip ranges. This happens today with any SSH server on the internet. Most server receive a dosen requests every second with attempted logins using usernames and passwords from dictionaries. That's why there is software like DenyHosts (Welcome to DenyHosts)
     
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Oct 29, 2007, 11:49 AM
 
bigger question: Why is there a root login at all?
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Oct 30, 2007, 10:50 AM
 
The _login_ is not there by default. If you mean a root _account_, then that's because it's UNIX.
     
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Oct 30, 2007, 11:44 AM
 
No, I mean login. It is the default policy on Mac OS X that root login is completely disabled, and the only way to escalate to root privileges is through a program suid 0, such as sudo. No password for the root account exists, and all root login is locked out (remote, local, and via su).

This is substantially different from the iPhone, where there is a (trivial) default root password. No mechanism for login may exist in the default configuration; however, there is no protection against root console access, either.
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Oct 31, 2007, 04:08 AM
 
Since everything on the iPhone runs as root, no, there wouldn't be protection against root console access.
     
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Oct 31, 2007, 05:44 AM
 
Originally Posted by iampivot View Post
They don't. They just scan ip ranges. This happens today with any SSH server on the internet. Most server receive a dosen requests every second with attempted logins using usernames and passwords from dictionaries. That's why there is software like DenyHosts (Welcome to DenyHosts)
So they'd have to scan *entire* IP ranges, and for each one try to SSH in and try the appropriate password?
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