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gwrjr33
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May 24, 2001, 09:09 AM
 

The Atlantic | May 2001

Russia Is Finished
The unstoppable descent of a once great power into social catastrophe and strategic irrelevance

by Jeffrey Tayler

During the Cold War years I perceived Russia through a Cold War prism - as a land of vast, frozen twilight realms of steppe and forest where a drama was being acted out that involved players of satanic evil or saintly good and doctrines that promised either mankind's salvation or its ruin. I developed a passion for the country, a passion that derived in part from a weighty postulate: that what happened there concerned not only Russians but the rest of the world. In its Soviet incarnation Russia had nuclear weapons and a powerful military, a threatening and subversive ideology, a tendency to invade its neighbors or meddle in their affairs, and the might to wreak havoc on other continents. Russians I came to know spoke of the future of their country as if it would be the fate of humanity, and I agreed with them...
     
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May 24, 2001, 10:19 AM
 
...nuclear weapons and a powerful military, a threatening and subversive ideology, a tendency to invade its neighbors or meddle in their affairs, and the might to wreak havoc on other continents.
Sorta sounds like the United States to me
     
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May 24, 2001, 01:31 PM
 
well, I'll be in Russia within the week. At first in St. Petersburg and then Moscow.

I wouldn't be so quick to count them out, but things are definitely in bad shape, especially the infrastructure. People that guard the nukes make $5 a month (roughly 140 rubles), and that's provided they've been paid this month. Not a pretty scenario.

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May 24, 2001, 01:39 PM
 
Originally posted by fulmer:
well, I'll be in Russia within the week. At first in St. Petersburg and then Moscow.
I wouldn't be so quick to count them out, but things are definitely in bad shape, especially the infrastructure. People that guard the nukes make $5 a month (roughly 140 rubles), and that's provided they've been paid this month. Not a pretty scenario.
If I give you 20 bucks to barder with the guys that guard the missiles do you think you can bring me some plutonium back? I have a certain beaucracy I'd like to talk too.. lol.. j/k.. Please no CIA agents coming to my home.
It's just my humble opinion.
     
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May 24, 2001, 02:11 PM
 
I have a certain beaucracy I'd like to talk too.. lol.. j/k.. Please no CIA agents coming to my home.
LOL...ya just never know! I hate to bring his name up, but remember when Ca$h supposedly was contacted by the Secret Service for supposedly threatening the then vice president?
     
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May 24, 2001, 02:41 PM
 
Originally posted by gwrjr33:
The unstoppable descent of a once great power into social catastrophe and strategic irrelevance
What's sad about this is that it may drive them back into a highly centralized gov't and economy.

I think they just needed to move more slowly into capitalism. A bunch of Americans went over them and told them to deregulate everything immediately, and everything would be hunky dory. Now they're paying the price.
     
   
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