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Jun 16, 2017, 10:58 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I don't believe him. He's a liar.
Luckily we have anonymous sources that corroborate that claim.
     
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Jun 16, 2017, 11:06 AM
 
That he's a liar?
     
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Jun 16, 2017, 11:32 AM
 
All this "witch-hunt" talk reminds me one of the things I was looking forward to about a Clinton presidency was her getting called "the Wicked Witch of the West Wing".
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
That he's a liar?
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Got damn. Well played.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Pence has retained legal counsel.
Sessions has lawyered up.
     
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Jun 20, 2017, 11:02 PM
 
I wonder if he's a pain-in-the-ass client.
     
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Jul 13, 2017, 01:12 PM
 
Junior has been invited to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary. Say they will subpoena if necessary.
     
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Jul 13, 2017, 02:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Junior has been invited to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary. Say they will subpoena if necessary.
He has already said he will testify.
"Mr Chairmen, members of the committee, for all questions, refer to the transcript of my interview on "Hannity" thank you. "
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Jul 13, 2017, 02:15 PM
 
That is genuinely funny.

I suppose if senior got subpoenaed instead of a taped deposition he'd just do the q&a on twitter.
     
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Jul 13, 2017, 03:38 PM
 
On a serious note I'm curious whether anyone on the committee will be sharp enough to ask about the contents of that phone call that vaguely happens during the email.
     
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Jul 14, 2017, 04:40 PM
 
Word is Kushner has changed lawyers.
     
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Jul 20, 2017, 08:36 PM
 
Grassley ready to throw down subpoenas over Don Jr and Manafort (!)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...rt_134530.html
     
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Down goes Kasowitz
     
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Jul 21, 2017, 07:30 PM
 
Fusion GPS guy got subpoenaed.

Also, Susan Rice spoke with Senate Intel today.

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Sounds like sober professional interviews before the theater.
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Jul 23, 2017, 05:03 PM
 
Manafort and Junior will not be under oath when interviewed by Senate. I wonder the reason for this.
     
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Jul 23, 2017, 07:21 PM
 
That's odd. It doesn't leave them free to lie - lying to Congress is a 5-years-in-jail felony. Ask James Clapper, when he gets out. Oh wait, that isn't the best example.
     
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Jul 24, 2017, 01:57 PM
 
Looks like good news for Kushner. His statement didn't have any big revelations.
     
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Jul 25, 2017, 10:09 AM
 
Manafort has been subpoenaed
     
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Jul 26, 2017, 10:42 AM
 
Subpoena withdrawn!
     
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Aug 3, 2017, 03:47 PM
 
"Robert Mueller, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, has impaneled a grand jury in Washington, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

The move means the probe is intensifying and could stretch "for months," according to the newspaper."

Your move, Donald
     
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Sep 19, 2017, 01:39 PM
 
Cohen ****ed up, I guess. They want public testimony from him now as punishment.
     
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Foil hat says he got set up the bomb.
     
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Sep 19, 2017, 01:49 PM
 
What I read was that he had a no media agreement and speculation is his release may have not matched his expected testimony.
     
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Sep 28, 2017, 04:23 PM
 
2017 is something else. The email 'prankster' that conned Kushners lawyer got forwarded a legitimate letter from the senate intelligence committee.

(They're asking if he included his personal emails in documents he gave and asked why he didn't tell them when he visited)
     
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Sep 28, 2017, 09:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
For context

https://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com...-hunt/?mcubz=0
     
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Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
What's the context?
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
What's the context?
That there is nothing extraordinary, novel, unique, or infrequent about politicians calling investigations into them "witch hunts". As such, a parallel from Trump to Nixon cannot be drawn.
     
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Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
That there is nothing extraordinary, novel, unique, or infrequent about politicians calling investigations into them "witch hunts". As such, a parallel from Trump to Nixon cannot be drawn.
Your example isn't the investigated calling it a witch-hunt, nor a politician doing so.

I'm amused this is the content in the thread that you thought needed addressing, though.
     
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Sep 29, 2017, 05:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Your example isn't the investigated calling it a witch-hunt, nor a politician doing so.
Pick nits all you want.

Nixon isn't the one that said that either according to your headline.


I'm amused this is the content in the thread that you thought needed addressing, though.
Your implication that Nixon was guilty, and therefore Trump likely is as well since they both called the investigations into them witch hunts? Or was there some other reason you brought up Nixon?
     
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Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
Pick nits all you want.

Nixon isn't the one that said that either according to your headline.
I read the headline as a quote of a term he used. How did you read it?

Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
Your implication that Nixon was guilty, and therefore Trump likely is as well since they both called the investigations into them witch hunts? Or was there some other reason you brought up Nixon?
I brought up Nixon because I saw a parallel. There's been many presidents investigated between Nixon and Trump, but it had to be Trump who cast it as a parallel.
     
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Oct 11, 2017, 10:18 AM
 
Carter Page will not testify and will plead the fifth.
     
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Carter Page will not testify and will plead the fifth.
Subpoena'd
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 09:12 AM
 
No surprises; It was Manafort that was indicted

Edit: Rick Gates too. Was with Trump longer
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 09:20 AM
 


Conspiracy against the United States? Is that all?
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 10:27 AM
 


I literally thought twitter was making a Webster joke I didn't get, but no, it's real. FYI he pleaded guilty at the beginning of the month.
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 12:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I literally thought twitter was making a Webster joke...
Fun aside... Webster was supposed to be a sitcomification of Karras and Clark's real life. It was created by their own production company.

ABC wanted to wring Emmanuel Lewis dry before he stopped being cute, and they felt the best option was to stick him on the Karras & Clark show.

They loved Emmanuel. They loved the idea of him being on the show. They hated that the show became about him.
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 12:33 PM
 
Pro-tip: Don't name the series after the kid you don't want it to be about
     
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Pro-tip: Don't name the series after the kid you don't want it to be about
Oh... they threw a ****in fit, but ABC said "take it or leave it".

Edit: the original title was Another Ballgame.
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 12:52 PM
 
I had no idea you were a Webster historian
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 01:03 PM
 
I'm more a development historian.

The best example from my archives?

Hunter Thompson's Real Cops, where the cops "beat the shit out of you, steal your drugs, and rape your wife" begat... Nash Bridges.
     
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One more...

Starsky... yeah, that Starsky, is a director now. His wife and daughter die in rapid succession.

In a bid to keep him from spiraling-off into a suicidal depression, a bunch of people go to bat to get him attached to a project.

It's an unusually nice thing for Hollywood to do, and for his part, Starsky views the project as a metaphor for how tragedy (like he was suffering) could be turned into hope. An unusually pure and personal motivation for one to bring to a project.

The result? Kazaam.
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 01:58 PM
 
Okay you can get back on topic now
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 04:14 PM
 
Fox News has a piece up attacking the judges Manafort and Gates appeared in front of today.
     
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https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/stat...02941798793217
GOP UT Sen Orrin Hatch on Manafort: I’m having a rough time seeing why in the world he was indicted...I think it’s an overreach
This guys really needs to go.
     
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Oct 30, 2017, 07:56 PM
 
What is the statue of limitations on the charges?
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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...44339?lo=ap_f1
Prosecutors convinced a federal judge to require a lawyer for Trump campaign officials Paul Manafort and Rick Gates to testify before the grand jury investigating Russian involvement in the 2016 election, a court ruling unsealed on Monday showed.
New York University law professor Stephen Gillers said the judge was persuaded that there was significant evidence Manafort and Gates had duped their lawyer into sending inaccurate letters to Justice about their lobbying efforts and about what emails might exist about the work.

"Essentially, the judge is saying that it is probable or likely that the clients had a criminal or fraudulent purpose in hiring the lawyer, even if (we would hope) the lawyer did not know it," Gillers told POLITICO.
If I understand this, Mueller got a judge to kill attorney/client privilege because the lawyer was used in furtherance of a crime. That's... a new concept to me.
     
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Oct 31, 2017, 09:05 PM
 
It's my understanding attorney-client privilege is mooted if they conspired together to break the law. But I don't know the details, like if the lawyer has to know.

Does the article specify that the priv got waived? Perhaps they just required a lawyer to testify, but with priv intact, or just on very specific subjects?
     
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Nov 2, 2017, 04:23 PM
 
Carter Page is in front of House Intel today, he has no legal representation (he's his own lawyer) and he's been with them for over 5 hours

This guy is an enigma of stupid
     
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I'm partial to "turducken of stupid".
     
 
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