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ThinkInsane · May 24, 2009, 04:43 AM

I'd shake this guys hand, but that seems to be the prelude to a sickening thud. A thumbs up from across the street would probably be safer.

Chen Fuchao, a man heavily in debt, had been contemplating suicide on a bridge in southern China for hours when a passer-by came up, shook his hand — and pushed him off the ledge.

I'm fairly certain this makes me a bad person, but I really don't have a problem with this. Closing a bridge for 5 hours while you hem and haw about whether or not to jump is just rude. Other people have stuff to do too you know. He probably could have grabbed him by the hair and dragged him off the edge I guess, but hindsight is 20/20.

I'm surprised the Chinese po-po didn't send in their top hostage negotiator <-- according to snopes, that thing about the guy waking up when he was about to get cremated is true.

shifuimam · May 24, 2009, 04:49 AM

Second link = major win.

Screw diplomacy. Sometimes, the crazies just need a bullet in the head.

Also: I agree with the guy who pushed the dude off the bridge.

Standing there for five hours debating whether or not to jump is just a demand for a lot of attention and press coverage - similar to attempting to commit suicide by slitting your wrists horizontally, or ODIng on something like aspirin.

Hell, anyone who tries to commit suicide publicly just wants attention. In the days when I seriously considered taking my own life, I had every intention of doing it in secret - that's kind of the point, isn't it?

torsoboy · May 24, 2009, 05:28 PM

The guy didn't push the guy off to kill him, and that is the only reason I think it was semi-okay. He pushed him off and he landed on a pad that had been setup underneath him by the police.

5 hours of people's time is nothing compared to a person's life. If the man had died, the pusher should have been put in prison for murder. As it is, he has back injuries from it, and if I was him, I would sue for hospital bills and pain and suffering.

shifuimam · May 24, 2009, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

The guy didn't push the guy off to kill him, and that is the only reason I think it was semi-okay. He pushed him off and he landed on a pad that had been setup underneath him by the police.

5 hours of people's time is nothing compared to a person's life. If the man had died, the pusher should have been put in prison for murder. As it is, he has back injuries from it, and if I was him, I would sue for hospital bills and pain and suffering.

Why? The man wanted to die.

Haven't you seen The Incredibles? Mr. Incredible got sued for trying to save a guy who was committing suicide.

It's like women who get upset when babies who survive abortion are aborted after the fact. The mother wanted the kid dead, so what's the outrage about?

People who commit suicide publicly are demanding attention from as many people as they can gather in as short a period of time as possible. Those who truly want to die don't do it in front of a television crew and the eyes of a nation - or even a single town or city or metro area. This guy was wasting everyone's time by holding up traffic for five hours while he waffled about offing himself.

torsoboy · May 24, 2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by shifuimam

Why? The man wanted to die.

Originally Posted by shifuimam

Those who truly want to die don't do it in front of a television crew and the eyes of a nation - or even a single town or city or metro area.

As you plainly said, this man did not want to die. To kill someone for taking up 5 hours of your time is ludicrous.

James L · May 24, 2009, 11:29 PM

shifuimam, your posts are often rationale and well thought out. Your ones in this thread, however, are incredibly ignorant.

I have been involved with suicides, attempted to suicides, private, public, etc for well over a decade through my employment. Your comments show an incredible lack of understanding.

Shame, you seem smarter than that.

residentEvil · May 26, 2009, 08:53 AM

we had a guy hold up a major highway in the detroit area for almost 8 hours (included evening rush hour) a few weeks back. could have used a tranq gun on him and caught him below...it was just a freeway overpass. 25' at most into one of those blow up mats would have been fine. but no, lets close off an 8 lane highway (4 lanes in each direction) that 125,000 cars travel each day.

Maflynn · May 26, 2009, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by shifuimam

Screw diplomacy. Sometimes, the crazies just need a bullet in the head.

Hell, anyone who tries to commit suicide publicly just wants attention.

So your solution is to kill them?

Dakar V · May 26, 2009, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by shifuimam

Haven't you seen The Incredibles? Mr. Incredible got sued for trying to save a guy who was committing suicide.

Did you just reference a false situation in a Disney movie as justification for letting a man die?

Are you nuts?!

Spheric Harlot · May 26, 2009, 09:17 AM

...an animated Disney movie.

dcmacdaddy · May 26, 2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by shifuimam

Why? The man wanted to die.

Haven't you seen The Incredibles? Mr. Incredible got sued for trying to save a guy who was committing suicide.

Are you really making a logical argument based off a cartoon character in a movie?

Laminar · May 26, 2009, 10:12 AM

But my concern is that she's using a fictional situation to back her argument!

olePigeon · May 26, 2009, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Laminar

But my concern is that she's using a fictional situation to back her argument!

Now you know how atheists feel.

residentEvil · May 26, 2009, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Now you know how atheists feel.

nice; i like it! hahaha

Eriamjh · May 26, 2009, 12:07 PM

I thought the jumper was only injured. Suicide fail.

The pusher is guilty of assault with a deadly... bridge.

SpaceMonkey · May 26, 2009, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

The pusher is guilty of assault with a deadly... bridge.

Oh! Oh! First-degree handslaughter.

Warhaven · May 26, 2009, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by olepigeon

now you know how atheists feel.

zing!

sek929 · May 26, 2009, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Did you just reference a false situation in a Disney movie as justification for letting a man die?

Are you nuts?!

Is it also nuts to be sexually attracted to marine mammals? The Little Mermaid says otherwise.

Dakar V · May 26, 2009, 12:23 PM

If it was wrong there wouldn't be a penis hidden on the cover.

residentEvil · May 26, 2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

If it was wrong there wouldn't be a penis hidden on the cover.

little mermaid or incredibles?

Dakar V · May 26, 2009, 12:58 PM

First google images entry for "Little Mermaid Cover"

residentEvil · May 26, 2009, 01:00 PM

already found it; the real story

snopes.com: Little Mermaid Phallus

Dakar V · May 26, 2009, 01:01 PM

Dude could be lying.

residentEvil · May 26, 2009, 01:02 PM

can't be. it is on the internet. has to be true.

Salty · May 26, 2009, 02:06 PM

The guy pushed the other guy onto an blow up mat... I say give him a medal. I was suicidal, I thought about jumping off a bridge, fact is though if I was gonna do it I'd have done it. This whole look at me and feel my pain thing... guh.

ThinkInsane · May 26, 2009, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by James L

shifuimam, your posts are often rationale and well thought out. Your ones in this thread, however, are incredibly ignorant.

I have been involved with suicides, attempted to suicides, private, public, etc for well over a decade through my employment. Your comments show an incredible lack of understanding.

Shame, you seem smarter than that.

I've been involved with the exact same thing for the last decade through my employment, and frankly it's left me feeling that shoving a person engaged in "selfish activities" off the bridge to get traffic moving again is perfectly expectable. My lack of empathy doesn't come come from a lack of understanding, it comes from the disgust generated by dealing with thousands of whiny borderlines and their frequent and pathetic ploys for attention. Either jump and get traffic moving or go cry to your therapist, but do something.

Jawbone54 · May 26, 2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by sek929

Is it also nuts to be sexually attracted to marine mammals? The Little Mermaid says otherwise.

Truest MacNN post ever.

Jawbone54 · May 26, 2009, 02:40 PM

Also, ever heard this little comment in Aladdin? YouTube - Aladdin Subliminal

As for the jumper, I wish people would make every effort to dissuade potential suicide attempts, period. One person's life is worth a few hours of traffic. I know the guy was pushed off onto a "partially inflated emergency air cushion," but it was still enough of a thud to cause a spinal injury. It wasn't fool-proof. It wasn't Lai Jiansheng's responsibility.

harbinger75 · May 26, 2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane

I've been involved with the exact same thing for the last decade through my employment, and frankly it's left me feeling that shoving a person engaged in "selfish activities" off the bridge to get traffic moving again is perfectly expectable. My lack of empathy doesn't come come from a lack of understanding, it comes from the disgust generated by dealing with thousands of whiny borderlines and their frequent and pathetic ploys for attention. Either jump and get traffic moving or go cry to your therapist, but do something.

/agreed. I've spent the last 15 years of my life dealing with everything related to this subject and more. Piss or get off the pot.

andi*pandi · May 27, 2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

As it is, he has back injuries from it, and if I was him, I would sue for hospital bills and pain and suffering.

This makes about as much sense as a burglar suing for injuries when he trips over your windowsill trying to sneak out with your DVD player.

He can sue for hospital bills, if the public can sue him for the cost of the police/ambulance/response team for 5 hours, plus damages from all commuters who missed work time, etc.